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08-19-2012, 12:31 PM
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So if DD doesn't fall to the 4th line who does?
RyJo? Prospal? Letestu?
I think its a numbers game and DD on the 4th makes the most sense unless RyJo goes to the A.
This. I don't think Dorsett's performance is a fluke either... which is why I want him helping out on the fourth line.

Besides, I have Letestu busy helping Foligno shelter Johansen from all the big bad forwards out there (and possibly taking faceoffs as well), so he can't drop.

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This. I don't think Dorsett's performance is a fluke either... which is why I want him helping out on the fourth line.

Besides, I have Letestu busy helping Foligno shelter Johansen from all the big bad forwards out there (and possibly taking faceoffs as well), so he can't drop.
If you're thinking of lines by descending offensive prowess, I might agree. But our third line should be our best defensive line, and Dorsett does that well. Honestly, i think the third may be our most important line. If we can upgrade our checking line, and add other players up front things may change (My fantasy involves Calvert-Jenner-Letestu but I'm pretty sure that won't happen, at least not this year.)

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I'm seeing lots of optimism out of the new/fairly new players who will be in the lineup this year if the NHL can get their acts together. JMFJ, Dubinsky, Foligno and, most recently, Anisimov all seem to have somewhat genuine excitement for the year and the roster in place.

My question is is it really genuine or several cases of "say the right thing"?

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08-19-2012, 07:46 PM
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If you're thinking of lines by descending offensive prowess, I might agree. But our third line should be our best defensive line, and Dorsett does that well.
What makes you think Calvert-MacKenzie-Dorsett isn't a "third" line?

Your reply suggests that you're leaning hard on the idea of "we need a REALLY good checking line 'cause our scoring lines are BAD." This is the wrong approach with the personnel we have. With the personnel we have, pretty much everybody has to do both scoring and checking - no "line specialization" can be done, 'cause we don't have that sort of talent on the roster. We don't have any pure scorers who can be thrown in the offensive zone and told "do what you do", and we don't have any hardcore defensive forwards who start in the defensive zone and spend their shifts singing "can't touch this".

What we do have is guys who can do a fair amount of both - AND enough blueline skill to take advantage of same in the top 4 (and possibly the bottom pair as well). We need to exploit that, and plan our lines and strategy accordingly, rather than try to cling hopelessly to the "scoring, secondary scoring, checking, energy" paradigm. Clinging to that will destroy our little teambuilding experiment before it ever gets off the ground.

I really hope Richards appreciates that.

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I'm seeing lots of optimism out of the new/fairly new players who will be in the lineup this year if the NHL can get their acts together. JMFJ, Dubinsky, Foligno and, most recently, Anisimov all seem to have somewhat genuine excitement for the year and the roster in place.

My question is is it really genuine or several cases of "say the right thing"?
Well, it sure mirrors my optimism, FWIW.

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08-19-2012, 08:41 PM
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I'm seeing lots of optimism out of the new/fairly new players who will be in the lineup this year if the NHL can get their acts together. JMFJ, Dubinsky, Foligno and, most recently, Anisimov all seem to have somewhat genuine excitement for the year and the roster in place.

My question is is it really genuine or several cases of "say the right thing"?
New season, new roster, new goaltender, new attitudes.. I say genuine all the way.

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08-19-2012, 09:22 PM
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New season, new roster, new goaltender, new attitudes.. I say genuine all the way.
Let's just hope there is a season to show it off.

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Interesting chart for you to sort different ways. Mason wasn't the worst goalie in the league over the past 4 seasons.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...y=games_goalie

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Interesting chart for you to sort different ways. Mason wasn't the worst goalie in the league over the past 4 seasons.

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...y=games_goalie
The bad part about this is, two of the guys who have worse save percentages also played here, and of the guys listed below him, none have been continuously given the starting gig, regardless of their play.

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The bad part about this is, two of the guys who have worse save percentages also played here, and of the guys listed below him, none have been continuously given the starting gig, regardless of their play.
well, maybe he was the worst

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I was curious if they've put in the new scoreboard yet. I'm excited to see what that ends up looking like.

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I was curious if they've put in the new scoreboard yet. I'm excited to see what that ends up looking like.
I'm curious to see if our side of it works.

(you HAD to see that one coming!)

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I'm curious to see if our side of it works.

(you HAD to see that one coming!)
I heard they got the clock from the staples center!!

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I heard they got the clock from the staples center!!
Yeah, it was a little known stipulation in the Jeff Carter trade - if the Jackets wish to retain the first round pick, they have to have the clock stop at 2 seconds whenever the Kings come to town now, so they can embarrass us on our own ice and we have to blame our own clock staff!

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I just noticed that we don't have a single player who was a Blue Jacket when Doug MacLean was the GM. Last year we had 3 players from the 2006-07 roster (Nash, Methot and A.Johnson) and now all 3 of them are gone. The new era begins... Right after the lock-out.

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Anyone see Johansen at the hockey school thing? He looks so tall, and so thin. Looks like a stick.

http://video.bluejackets.nhl.com/vid...ed-share-video

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Anyone see Johansen at the hockey school thing? He looks so tall, and so thin. Looks like a stick.

http://video.bluejackets.nhl.com/vid...ed-share-video
Not concerned with what he "appears to look like" in a jersey with no pads.

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I just noticed that we don't have a single player who was a Blue Jacket when Doug MacLean was the GM. Last year we had 3 players from the 2006-07 roster (Nash, Methot and A.Johnson) and now all 3 of them are gone. The new era begins... Right after the lock-out.
Well, we do have a few MacLean draft picks sprinkled about. Dorsett, Mason, Brassard, and Boll are all that are left if I remember correctly.

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08-23-2012, 07:20 AM
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Not concerned with what he "appears to look like" in a jersey with no pads.
Except he was supposed to have added 20 pounds of muscle or some such. Maybe he also took off 20 pounds of something else.

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Huselius seems to think he was rushed back onto the ice before he was ready. Also isn't talking to the club.

http://www.bluejacketsxtra.com/conte...gainst-me.html

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"I had not a single practice with the team before coming back," Huselius said. "I had one game to get acclimated. Then I went into (the next) NHL game and played 21 minutes. I think they acted wrong against me. My groin broke in the second game. I had not built up muscle mass and was not fit or ready to play.

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Huselius seems to think he was rushed back onto the ice before he was ready. Also isn't talking to the club.

http://www.bluejacketsxtra.com/conte...gainst-me.html
Following this, I give it about 24 hours before "Columbus rushes all their players back from injury" and "Columbus has the worst medical trainers in the NHL" become Universal Truths on the mains.

Does anyone recall if at the time there seemed like a drive from either Juice or the club for him to return? 'Cause I recall his likely return time being, like, January, and there being a lot of concern about his showing up in early December.

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Huselius seems to think he was rushed back onto the ice before he was ready. Also isn't talking to the club.

http://www.bluejacketsxtra.com/conte...gainst-me.html
And who's fault was it he wasn't ready to play opening night?

He made $2.375 million per game played last year. I know he wants people to feel sorry for him, and that the team wronged him, but I'm having a hard time caring when you look at those numbers.

The guy made over $100,000 per game played over his entire career here making him the highest payed player per game played to ever to wear a Blue Jackets uniform. To put it into perspective, Nash was only paid $95,000 per game last season, and obviously a lot less in previous years before this big contract.

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Following this, I give it about 24 hours before "Columbus rushes all their players back from injury" and "Columbus has the worst medical trainers in the NHL" become Universal Truths on the mains.

Does anyone recall if at the time there seemed like a drive from either Juice or the club for him to return? 'Cause I recall his likely return time being, like, January, and there being a lot of concern about his showing up in early December.
I don't remember the details to be honest. However, let's make the assumption that Juice has some kind of point. The CBJ training staff might be guilty of bringing him back too soon. At the same time, Arniel would have been at fault for playing him almost 20 minutes on his first night back. That does seem high.

It is a far more complex discussion. It's not like we have a history of this type of problem, at least one that I can remember.

Was he ready to play? I thought he was skating for weeks before he came back. An issue with the Pectoral muscles probably shouldn't have impacted his groin as much as the upper body. It's not like he was coming back from a hip or knee issue. I would think he could have worked that lower body for a while before he was cleared for contact.

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Except he was supposed to have added 20 pounds of muscle or some such. Maybe he also took off 20 pounds of something else.
Exactly why I'm not concerned, people have said he's built muscle, we're now going to disprove that with one video?

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Exactly why I'm not concerned, people have said he's built muscle, we're now going to disprove that with one video?
That's fine, and I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything. But wouldn't it have been cool if the "20 pounds of muscle" kinda made you go "Man, check out Ryjo."

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