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08-23-2012, 12:33 PM
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Markov Files 1.2 Mil Lawsuit

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl...0544--nhl.html

I wish he sued for more. This guy is a class A *******


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Who is this William Johnston fella and where was he when this was happening?

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My opinion?

1. Why should I care? He's a hockey player I love to watch play hockey. All I care about is if he's going to be healthy next year.

2. Although I personally don't give a rats ass what language the players speak, this just proves that he should have learnt to speak proper english a long time ago. He could have understood hat was going on.

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My opinion?

1. Why should I care? He's a hockey player I love to watch play hockey. All I care about is if he's going to be healthy next year.

2. Although I personally don't give a rats ass what language the players speak, this just proves that he should have learnt to speak proper english a long time ago. He could have understood hat was going on.
Or that he should have got a proper translator that knew the insurance world.

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Love Markov but honestly that's his problem. If you sign something you don't understand, then too bad for you, learn from it and move on.

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My only concern is that it could affect Markov focus coming toward the season.

Aside from that I don't care, that's Markov problem, let the court decide.

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My opinion?

1. Why should I care? He's a hockey player I love to watch play hockey. All I care about is if he's going to be healthy next year.

2. Although I personally don't give a rats ass what language the players speak, this just proves that he should have learnt to speak proper english a long time ago. He could have understood hat was going on.
Then GTFO if you don't care

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1- 240k/year insurance and you don't hire a lawyer or something like that?

2- It's also surprising the Habs don't have people working for them to help players with insurances/housing/taxes ect. Remember Pasquale Mangiola ? He played that role for some of our euro players a few years ago..... LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES HELP YOUR PLAYERS! DON'T LET CRIMINALS AND CROOKS DO THE JOB FOR YOU.

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http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl...0544--nhl.html

I wish he sued for more. This guy is a class A *******
That news is so wednesday morning

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That news is so wednesday morning
Yeah, and I'm surprised it took so long for a thread to start about this.

We're losing it guys! Summer is no excuse! Back in my days, this thread would already be a part-3.

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Love Markov but honestly that's his problem. If you sign something you don't understand, then too bad for you, learn from it and move on.
Well if he was lied too, that isn't his problem so long as it can be proven.

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2. Although I personally don't give a rats ass what language the players speak, this just proves that he should have learnt to speak proper english a long time ago. He could have understood hat was going on.
Learning a language to the extent that you understand fine print or intricacies of a contract isn't easy. Many native English speakers struggle with that, so I don't think your comment holds much relevance in this context.

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Love Markov but honestly that's his problem. If you sign something you don't understand, then too bad for you, learn from it and move on.
That's just not true. If someone intentionally tries to deceive you, then they've broken the law. The deceived have a right to compensation.

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1- 240k/year insurance and you don't hire a lawyer or something like that?

2- It's also surprising the Habs don't have people working for them to help players with insurances/housing/taxes ect. Remember Pasquale Mangiola ? He played that role for some of our euro players a few years ago..... LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES HELP YOUR PLAYERS! DON'T LET CRIMINALS AND CROOKS DO THE JOB FOR YOU.
Isn't it Brisebois and Lapointe's job to help rookies? I would assume they will ask those questions to newcomers from european leagues.

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Learning a language to the extent that you understand fine print or intricacies of a contract isn't easy. Many native English speakers struggle with that, so I don't think your comment holds much relevance in this context.



That's just not true. If someone intentionally tries to deceive you, then they've broken the law. The deceived have a right to compensation.
Unless you're a TBTF bank, I'm pretty sure insurance companies get the same benefit

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I hope Markov wins. Crooked salesmen are the scum of the universe.

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Although I personally don't give a rats ass what language the players speak, this just proves that he should have learnt to speak proper english a long time ago. He could have understood hat was going on.
How many foreign languages have you learned to speak at an advanced level as an adult? It's not as easy as you think.

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Or that he should have got a proper translator that knew the insurance world.
I doubt that finding a good and trustworthy translator on short notice is easy.

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It's also surprising the Habs don't have people working for them to help players with insurances/housing/taxes ect. Remember Pasquale Mangiola ? He played that role for some of our euro players a few years ago..... LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES HELP YOUR PLAYERS! DON'T LET CRIMINALS AND CROOKS DO THE JOB FOR YOU.
I read a book called Why England Lose (I think it goes by the title Soccernomics in North America) a few months ago and one of the issues it brought up in it was how notoriously poor the overwhelming majority of professional sports teams are at helping their players settle in their new home towns. Hardly any of them employ relocation specialists.


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I've always wondered about a relation specialist.

As this is my job, it would be pretty cool to get to relocate NHL players and make their transition easy peasy.

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at least he didn't get sharked as bad as sergei federov.

Did the guy even work for Great West Life? article doesn't say.

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The language issue just won't fly.
On the other hand if the INS guy had no right to operate in Quebec and Great west signed off on the policy from a non accredited agent well now that's a very different thing.

Markov is NOT asking for a financial gain due to fraud. His is asking for his money (premiums) back because the policy was sold by someone with NO Authority to do so. If Great West signed off on the policy from a NON AGENT the policy should never have been issued. You have to pass courses to become an AGENT. You have to have a Quebec INS Agent License.

Markov has had NO financial gain because of this policy, the problem is, the second Markov would have or Markovs family would have tried to make that BIG CLAIM, Great West would be the FIRST in court to nullify the policy.

So the truth is Markov paid out 1.2 million for something that was NOT LEGAL.

Any judge will see if the policy was NEVER going to be paid out on a claim Markov has a case. Add to this the fact if the judge decides to go back to square one and return all the paid out premiums to Markov, Great West has lost NO MONEY in the deal.

How can Great West ask to keep the money on a void policy.

Now If Great West is willing to admit in open court that it does not care what is told to their clients at the time of purchase by persons or person earning commissions paid to them by Great West I bet the lawsuits will flood in starting tomorrow.

So as far as I can see the whole thing swings on proof that the person that sold and got commissions was NOT allowed to do so In Quebec.
If true, Great West will lose this.

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I have a policy that pays 400K if I die and I pay less than $400/yr for it. This guy pays 240K for insurance and doesn't think something is wrong? I realize that if he was lied to, the agent/GWL is liable, but ya gotta use your brain too. 240K is more than 99% of us earn.

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I have a policy that pays 400K if I die and I pay less than $400/yr for it. This guy pays 240K for insurance and doesn't think something is wrong? I realize that if he was lied to, the agent/GWL is liable, but ya gotta use your brain too. 240K is more than 99% of us earn.
You are covered for 400k, good for you. But needless to say, Markov was covered for far more! I'm guessing the policy was upward of 25M for what almost certainly was a term life insurance. I expect his thinking was to cover more or less what he hoped to earn for the rest of his career.

You know, for someone who casually invite strangers to use their brain...


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Thats the bad karma of making millions you haven't earned. Not saying the injuries are his fault but still.

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Thats the bad karma of making millions you haven't earned. Not saying the injuries are his fault but still.
Wow!

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Thats the bad karma of making millions you haven't earned. Not saying the injuries are his fault but still.
I literally spat my milk on my keyboard thanks to you. Well done

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I hope Markov wins. Crooked salesmen are the scum of the universe.



How many foreign languages have you learned to speak at an advanced level as an adult? It's not as easy as you think.

1. That's all he needs to learn, english.



I doubt that finding a good and trustworthy translator on short notice is easy.

If you're going out of your way to have an insurance man come and sell you life insurance that costs this much, I'm pretty sure you have ample time to find a reliable translator.



I read a book called Why England Lose (I think it goes by the title Soccernomics in North America) a few months ago and one of the issues it brought up in it was how notoriously poor the overwhelming majority of professional sports teams are at helping their players settle in their new home towns. Hardly any of them employ relocation specialists.
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