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08-21-2012, 04:15 PM
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Question: of our wingers, which ones are good to play either side?
Is it all of them? Because it seems like Hansen, Higgins, Burrows, Booth and Raymond all can. What about the kids?

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08-21-2012, 04:33 PM
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Question: of our wingers, which ones are good to play either side?
Is it all of them? Because it seems like Hansen, Higgins, Burrows, Booth and Raymond all can. What about the kids?
I've never known Hansen to need to because this team has so few natural right wingers (Higgins, Booth, Raymond, even Burrows are all natural left wingers).

I believe the Canucks have shifted Booth to the right side when lined up with Raymond and Kesler and Higgins when lined up with Booth and Kesler so that would suggest to me that Raymond is not great at playing his off wing and neither is Booth.

Burrows can play either side without issue.

I believe Lapierre only plays the left wing when he's not at center and if I'm not mistaken Kassian (like Hansen) has only ever played the right wing.

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08-21-2012, 10:03 PM
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Bjugstad or bust.
In all seriousness, they're both fantastic young players, but I just think Bjugstad has the more unique skill set.
Ya, I do as well, although similar to Gaunce. I think Nucks are lacking centre prospects, particularity one that could make the roster this yr or next.

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I question Bjugstad's ability to play up to his size, and his ultimate upside. I don't see a mean streak in him. And it could be very important. That will to punish opponents. If Taylor Pyatt had an ounce of that...

Gudbranson has it. And while he may be struggling to find his way now, by the end, he should be a force. They're both great, but if I had a choice, Gudbranson would be the ticket. He will do everything he can to become better... That's internal drive few players have.
Canucks def don't have a Guds 'type' d-man in the system (big/mean). But they have a ton of d prospects who will be pushing for roster spots soon. Tanev this yr, Connauton and Corrado next yr. Price the yr after. And their top 4 roster spots are under contract for next 5 yr-6 yrs (assuming Edler resigns). There isn't a lot of room on the back end next few yrs.

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As much as I like Bjugstad, Gudbranson would be the guy I would take everytime between the two. Our back end needs more bite, especially in the top 4.
I also think it needs more bite. But I can't see Guds playing in the top 4 this coming season. He'd be playing sheltered and limited minutes, unless he vastly improves. But seeing him and Kassian out there with the Sedins would give the 'Marchands' of hockey something to think about.

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08-21-2012, 10:54 PM
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^ It's less about room on the roster and more about who I think will ultimately become a better pro. Gudbranson is my choice for that reason.


Bjugstad doesn't have the speed or grit to make me believe he will exceed expectations. He may very well top out as a 2nd/3rd line tweener, much like Gaunce. Gudbranson, on the other hand, has all the earmarks of becoming a dominant defenseman. Based on his right shot and size, he'll be given every chance to succeed to a higher pairing, while a slicker offensive player could easily push Bjugstad down the depth chart.



Gubranson's collection of skills is a lot rarer IMO... I'm saying this knowing Bjugstad can be a 6'6" 240lbs two way C.

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08-21-2012, 11:04 PM
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I've never known Hansen to need to because this team has so few natural right wingers (Higgins, Booth, Raymond, even Burrows are all natural left wingers).

I believe the Canucks have shifted Booth to the right side when lined up with Raymond and Kesler and Higgins when lined up with Booth and Kesler so that would suggest to me that Raymond is not great at playing his off wing and neither is Booth.

Burrows can play either side without issue.

I believe Lapierre only plays the left wing when he's not at center and if I'm not mistaken Kassian (like Hansen) has only ever played the right wing.
I seem to recall something similar to a Hansen - Wellwood - Bernier line that was formed at some point where he played left wing. He's definitely played booth sides before, and well.

It must have been

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson
Hansen - Wellwood - Bernier

when Demitra went down

Actually, that's pretty strange that I remember it that way, because wasn't Bernier originally a left winger?


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08-22-2012, 01:21 AM
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I seem to recall something similar to a Hansen - Wellwood - Bernier line that was formed at some point where he played left wing. He's definitely played booth sides before, and well.

It must have been

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Samuelsson
Hansen - Wellwood - Bernier

when Demitra went down

Actually, that's pretty strange that I remember it that way, because wasn't Bernier originally a left winger?
Can't say about before he joined us, but I do recall everyone was salivating at how a big body right winger would mesh with the Sedins a la Pyatt when we first signed Bernier. Yeah, so much for that...

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08-22-2012, 01:30 AM
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Bernier has always been a right winger. And I thought the combination was Raymond-Wellwood-Bernier, they definitely played a long stretch together at the end of the regular season and into the playoffs.

Regardless, Hansen's ability to play the left side is pretty well moot right now because we have more natural left wingers than we have spots to put them.

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08-23-2012, 09:19 AM
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Bernier has always been a right winger. And I thought the combination was Raymond-Wellwood-Bernier, they definitely played a long stretch together at the end of the regular season and into the playoffs.

Regardless, Hansen's ability to play the left side is pretty well moot right now because we have more natural left wingers than we have spots to put them.
It was, but at one point Demitra was injured or something. I remember both happening (although Hansen's was for a significantly shorter period of time).

Regardless, I'm positive Hansen can/has played LW without problems.

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08-23-2012, 10:40 AM
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Hansen played on a line with Bernier for 45:47 in 09/10.

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When did Gudbranson become a possibility. Is there an actual rumor with a source? Or just Vancouver fans speculating?

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When did Gudbranson become a possibility. Is there an actual rumor with a source? Or just Vancouver fans speculating?
Speculating - there has been sweet jack all in the form of rumors about Luongo of late.

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08-23-2012, 01:58 PM
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When did Gudbranson become a possibility. Is there an actual rumor with a source? Or just Vancouver fans speculating?
People are bored, don't take it personally.

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People are bored, don't take it personally.
It's fine. I can say with reasonable certainty there is a better chance of the Canucks going undefeated next season than there is of them getting Gudbranson from the panthers for luongo.

But enjoy your speculating/hoping.

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08-23-2012, 02:45 PM
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It's fine. I can say with reasonable certainty there is a better chance of the Canucks going undefeated next season than there is of them getting Gudbranson from the panthers for luongo.

But enjoy your speculating/hoping.
if its fine, why are being obnoxious?

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It's fine. I can say with reasonable certainty there is a better chance of the Canucks going undefeated next season than there is of them getting Gudbranson from the panthers for luongo.

But enjoy your speculating/hoping.
Hey that's great. Thanks for stopping by.

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08-23-2012, 02:59 PM
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if its fine, why are being obnoxious?
Is it obnoxious if I say that I want the sedin twins for bjugstad?

Why bother talking about something that won't happen. It's just a waste of time.

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Is it obnoxious if I say that I want the sedin twins for bjugstad?
Trading two art ross trophy winners and a hart winner for a unproven prospect who hasn't played a game in the NHL

=/=

Trading an all star starting goaltender for a good prospect.

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08-23-2012, 03:03 PM
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Is it obnoxious if I say that I want the sedin twins for bjugstad?

Why bother talking about something that won't happen. It's just a waste of time.
I think the whole

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was what he was talking about not the other part...

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Is it obnoxious if I say that I want the sedin twins for bjugstad?

Why bother talking about something that won't happen. It's just a waste of time.

It's a long season. Chill out or go back to your board.

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was what he was talking about not the other part...
So what, any rational NHL mind would tell you there's no chance gudbranson gets moved for Luongo why even talk about it, just a waste of time

Which goes to my example of the sedin twins for bjugstad. it's not a trade that's going to ever happen so why talk like it's even a possibility.

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08-23-2012, 03:14 PM
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So what, any rational NHL mind would tell you there's no chance gudbranson gets moved for Luongo why even talk about it, just a waste of time

Which goes to my example of the sedin twins for bjugstad. it's not a trade that's going to ever happen so why talk like it's even a possibility.
As John Swartzwelder clearly stated, your example is a poor one. Please move on to another subject. Note that this isn't a suggestion.

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As John Swartzwelder clearly stated, your example is a poor one. Please move on to another subject. Note that this isn't a suggestion.
Have a good day. Good luck with the season if we have one

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Have a good day. Good luck with the season if we have one
Save the luck for your own team.

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How did Luongo's value go down so fast? I mean, naturally he's not going to return what Schneider will but damn.

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How did Luongo's value go down so fast? I mean, naturally he's not going to return what Schneider will but damn.
It didn't. Everyone on HF that's not Canucks fans just wish it did.

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