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Paul Ranger Signs AHL Contract? - Update: Signed with Marlies

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08-23-2012, 03:40 PM
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Does anyone else think, that if he's kept in shape during this time, he is going to find his way to the Maple leafs in no time this season?
Surely that's the plan. I doubt he's making a comeback just to become an AHL superstar.

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May have already been asked but if he is playing well and ends up signing a pro contract with the Leafs does he need to go through waivers?

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Paul Ranger is a loser. I'm sorry but that's just what I think. And I know the typical hf bleeding hearts will come in here asking me what's wrong with me and that I should be all ''comprehensive'' and yadda yadda yadda. Yeah I get that. But To me, he's simply a loser who made it this far into his hockey career, and then just quit. What the hell? What kind of person dedicates his life to hockey then just decides one day ''meh, don't want to play anymore, I quit.'' Does he even realize the chance he had, playing in the best league in the world? Does he realize what the odds are of him, as a hockey player, to make it to the NHL, let alone the AHL or any professional league? Unbelievable. There are players who bust their ***** their entire career just to try and make it to the NHL, and there are players who would give their left nut for just one shift in the NHL. And then there is Ranger on the other hand, who had it all, and, ''nah, don't feel like playing anymore, I quit''. Unbelievable.

What a loser. And now he is probably realizing the opportunity he missed and how much money he could have made had he not decided to quit his hockey career so he has come crawling back. Well good luck going anywhere now. If I was a GM, I'd want nothing to do with that loser. I know I will get flamed big time for this post and that I should be all ''sensitive'' and ''comprehensive'' to poor little Paul who decided to abandon hockey, but whatever. This whole story is incomprehensible to me.
I think you need to learn what the word "comprehensive" means,

Because you clearly have absolutely no clue.

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08-23-2012, 07:22 PM
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Paul Ranger is a loser. I'm sorry but that's just what I think. And I know the typical hf bleeding hearts will come in here asking me what's wrong with me and that I should be all ''comprehensive'' and yadda yadda yadda. Yeah I get that. But To me, he's simply a loser who made it this far into his hockey career, and then just quit. What the hell? What kind of person dedicates his life to hockey then just decides one day ''meh, don't want to play anymore, I quit.'' Does he even realize the chance he had, playing in the best league in the world? Does he realize what the odds are of him, as a hockey player, to make it to the NHL, let alone the AHL or any professional league? Unbelievable. There are players who bust their ***** their entire career just to try and make it to the NHL, and there are players who would give their left nut for just one shift in the NHL. And then there is Ranger on the other hand, who had it all, and, ''nah, don't feel like playing anymore, I quit''. Unbelievable.

What a loser. And now he is probably realizing the opportunity he missed and how much money he could have made had he not decided to quit his hockey career so he has come crawling back. Well good luck going anywhere now. If I was a GM, I'd want nothing to do with that loser. I know I will get flamed big time for this post and that I should be all ''sensitive'' and ''comprehensive'' to poor little Paul who decided to abandon hockey, but whatever. This whole story is incomprehensible to me.
Does that include every job that requires dedication? You get into the law school, you become promising new lawyer but you find out that there is more in life than just being lawyer and that you have a possibility to take a break from all of that for awhile. Are you a loser if you take a step back and think what you really want from your life?

You can replace the lawyer / ice-hockey player with almost any occupation or job. There is no way that you have any right to tell anyone that what they should do with their lives. Nobody is loser if he does what he thinks that is best for him, actually thats smart and shows that money hasn't blinded the person by taking the money and just doing it for moneys sake.

Get over yourself.

ps. The word you are looking for might be "permissive."

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May have already been asked but if he is playing well and ends up signing a pro contract with the Leafs does he need to go through waivers?
From the resident CBA expert kdb209: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=143

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He reportedly signed an AHL SPC with the Marlies - not an NHL one with the Leafs.

He will likely sign for less than the $105K Re-Entry Waiver limit. If he signs an AHL SPC for more than that, he would be subject to Re-Entry Waivers if later signed by the Leafs (the Marlies NHL affiliate) this season (*), but not if signed by another NHL team.

(*) Assuming there is a "this season" and the Re-Entry Waiver rules remain the same under a new CBA.

edit: Ranger would not be subject to Re-Entry Waivers. He is eligible for the Veteran Minor League Player exemption (320+ pro games played and < 40/80 NHL games played during the last one/two years). I was surprised that Ranger had played that many pro games (270 NHL + 70 AHL = 340 professional games).
As he noted, this is assuming that the re-entry rules aren't tweaked in the next CBA.

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ps. The word you are looking for might be "permissive."
I was thinking compassionate or empathetic myself, but I'm not sure he's ever heard those words.

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I was thinking compassionate or empathetic myself, but I'm not sure he's ever heard those words.
Meybe he should be more comprehensive

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Paul Ranger is a loser. I'm sorry but that's just what I think. And I know the typical hf bleeding hearts will come in here asking me what's wrong with me and that I should be all ''comprehensive'' and yadda yadda yadda. Yeah I get that. But To me, he's simply a loser who made it this far into his hockey career, and then just quit. What the hell? What kind of person dedicates his life to hockey then just decides one day ''meh, don't want to play anymore, I quit.'' Does he even realize the chance he had, playing in the best league in the world? Does he realize what the odds are of him, as a hockey player, to make it to the NHL, let alone the AHL or any professional league? Unbelievable. There are players who bust their ***** their entire career just to try and make it to the NHL, and there are players who would give their left nut for just one shift in the NHL. And then there is Ranger on the other hand, who had it all, and, ''nah, don't feel like playing anymore, I quit''. Unbelievable.

What a loser. And now he is probably realizing the opportunity he missed and how much money he could have made had he not decided to quit his hockey career so he has come crawling back. Well good luck going anywhere now. If I was a GM, I'd want nothing to do with that loser. I know I will get flamed big time for this post and that I should be all ''sensitive'' and ''comprehensive'' to poor little Paul who decided to abandon hockey, but whatever. This whole story is incomprehensible to me.
Agreed.

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08-24-2012, 05:36 PM
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Am I missing something? Because that seemed to be the reason given for his ''retirement''...that there was no specific reason, that he was just basically quit hockey because he ''didn't have it in him anymore'' or something. Unless something else has come out? Hey if he had serious issues or illness or whatever, than this is an entirely different story. I'm just going off of what I heard from many sources.
Some people actually have a better idea of what happened.

So yeah, he didn't just quit "because he didn't have it in him." Find real sources.

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Some people actually have a better idea of what happened.

So yeah, he didn't just quit "because he didn't have it in him."
To be fair, we were told down here that he had lost the desire to play the game, that may be where that's coming from.

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That makes it sound like you have some... if so, what do they have to say?

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Good for ranger, whats the big deal?

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He had hype, didn't live up to it, started to be a different player and it was working for him, then he disappeared and with the time he's taken off, he's not going to come back and get back on track. He'll be lucky to be 1/2 the player he was before.

This isn't a game where you can take time off like that and come back like things never changed and get better, plenty of players have found out before, he's not like some legendary talented guy either.

Best of luck to him with the Marlies, his situation was one of the more bizarre things I've ever heard about, like nothing was ever leaked or anything and it left everything up in the air for me for what was wrong with him. It was odd, but it's whatever.

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Paul Ranger is a loser. I'm sorry but that's just what I think. And I know the typical hf bleeding hearts will come in here asking me what's wrong with me and that I should be all ''comprehensive'' and yadda yadda yadda. Yeah I get that. But To me, he's simply a loser who made it this far into his hockey career, and then just quit. What the hell? What kind of person dedicates his life to hockey then just decides one day ''meh, don't want to play anymore, I quit.'' Does he even realize the chance he had, playing in the best league in the world? Does he realize what the odds are of him, as a hockey player, to make it to the NHL, let alone the AHL or any professional league? Unbelievable. There are players who bust their ***** their entire career just to try and make it to the NHL, and there are players who would give their left nut for just one shift in the NHL. And then there is Ranger on the other hand, who had it all, and, ''nah, don't feel like playing anymore, I quit''. Unbelievable.

What a loser. And now he is probably realizing the opportunity he missed and how much money he could have made had he not decided to quit his hockey career so he has come crawling back. Well good luck going anywhere now. If I was a GM, I'd want nothing to do with that loser. I know I will get flamed big time for this post and that I should be all ''sensitive'' and ''comprehensive'' to poor little Paul who decided to abandon hockey, but whatever. This whole story is incomprehensible to me.
I'm going to guess you were the guy who always got picked last for street hockey.

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Just because he signed an AHL contract with the Marlies doesn't mean he'll sign an NHL contract with the Leafs. He's just as likely to sign with Tampa (if he ever becomes an NHL player again that is).
Stop whining.

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Just because he signed an AHL contract with the Marlies doesn't mean he'll sign an NHL contract with the Leafs. He's just as likely to sign with Tampa (if he ever becomes an NHL player again that is).
Stop whining.
Earlier in this thread there's a link to an article which pretty much says the entire goal is to sign with Toronto and they think he could be in their top 6 if he can get back into his old form.

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Good to see him getting back into hockey. Whatever happened, you know it had to be something serious, so best of luck to him.

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Just because he signed an AHL contract with the Marlies doesn't mean he'll sign an NHL contract with the Leafs. He's just as likely to sign with Tampa (if he ever becomes an NHL player again that is).
Stop whining.
Not true, generally players that excel on AHL contracts will only be released mid-season by their AHL team to sign with the parent club.

Example last season being Cory Conacher, undrafted, released from AHL contract midseason, signed with Tampa, won MVP.

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All this means to me is that he wants to play again and be close to home and so he signs with the Marlies with an AHL contract and when he's ready, he can easily just sign with the Bolts and move back there.

Mountain out of a molehill.

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All this means to me is that he wants to play again and be close to home and so he signs with the Marlies with an AHL contract and when he's ready, he can easily just sign with the Bolts and move back there.

Mountain out of a molehill.
From the article linked in Post #175, sure doesn't sound like there's any destination other than Toronto in mind...

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While the Leafs have a glut of NHL-quality defencemen in the organization, it is thought that if Ranger can return to form, he would be a legitimate candidate to secure one of the top six spots in the organization.

"He has been out of the game for personal reasons and sees an opportunity to get back into it and knows the environment we have created here and he feels this is an excellent opportunity for him," said Dave Poulin, the Leafs' vice-president of hockey operations. "This kid can play. I watched him skate yesterday and wow, he can fly. He had some personal challenges off the ice and he has met them and he feels he's in a good position to come back with an organization that is going to support him in every way possible."
Of course, "an organization that is going to support him in every way possible" is certainly a very accurate description of what the Lightning have done for him over the last 3 years, but I don't think it was us Mr. Poulin was talking about!

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Paul Ranger is a loser. I'm sorry but that's just what I think. And I know the typical hf bleeding hearts will come in here asking me what's wrong with me and that I should be all ''comprehensive'' and yadda yadda yadda. Yeah I get that. But To me, he's simply a loser who made it this far into his hockey career, and then just quit. What the hell? What kind of person dedicates his life to hockey then just decides one day ''meh, don't want to play anymore, I quit.'' Does he even realize the chance he had, playing in the best league in the world? Does he realize what the odds are of him, as a hockey player, to make it to the NHL, let alone the AHL or any professional league? Unbelievable. There are players who bust their ***** their entire career just to try and make it to the NHL, and there are players who would give their left nut for just one shift in the NHL. And then there is Ranger on the other hand, who had it all, and, ''nah, don't feel like playing anymore, I quit''. Unbelievable.

What a loser. And now he is probably realizing the opportunity he missed and how much money he could have made had he not decided to quit his hockey career so he has come crawling back. Well good luck going anywhere now. If I was a GM, I'd want nothing to do with that loser. I know I will get flamed big time for this post and that I should be all ''sensitive'' and ''comprehensive'' to poor little Paul who decided to abandon hockey, but whatever. This whole story is incomprehensible to me.
Yeah, damn him for not taking employment where you wanted him to.

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