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08-26-2012, 09:54 AM
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Is there any possible way to watch AHL games? Other than finding a random stream on the internet?

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Is there any possible way to watch AHL games? Other than finding a random stream on the internet?
Go to the games?

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Is there any possible way to watch AHL games? Other than finding a random stream on the internet?
AHL Live, im preparing myself also.

http://ahl.neulion.com/ahl/

So, what can we expect from the Aeros?

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So, what can we expect from the Aeros?
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Yes if no lockout but now there is going to be some strong teams for many others also, havent looked at them yet.

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Yes if no lockout but now there is going to be some strong teams for many others also, havent looked at them yet.
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Yakupov can't play in the AHL.

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Yeah, I'm looking forward to this season especially with Parise and Suter signing up with us. I hope there isn't going to be a lockout coming this fall. If there is one I hope it's short.

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Yakupov can't play in the AHL.
Transfer agreement expired in July. Or did then renew it?

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Pretty sure it will be renewed if it isn't already.

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As of the 16th of this month it had not been renewed. And no news since then.

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Either way, Yakkity Oil will reportedly play in KHL if there is a lockout.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...ckout/related/

Kinda surprising. He could probably make more in the AHL.

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08-26-2012, 08:26 PM
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I'm very bummed . All our good older players like Heatley,Koivu,Parise,Suter/Backstrom just get a year older. They are all quickly leaving the prime years of their career. Its now or never for those guys. We need a young stud like Granlund/Brodin to step up and take this team to the next level with an above expectations season. If we wait everyone just gets older.

Sure our prospects get more seasoning but they need to be pushing for NHL spots not resting on their training and intensity because they know there is no point to push for the NHL this year. The hype and energy our team has gained in the offseason has no doubt trickled down to each and every player in the association making them want push harder to be apart of the revival of the team. This lockout is just going to kill that momentum not to mention from a fans perspective and all the new fans locally and nationally will lose interest after a lockout.

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08-27-2012, 12:20 AM
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Only good thing I can think of is PMB would at least get to 110% gameshape.

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08-27-2012, 09:15 AM
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The only question for me is will it be a couple month lockout or a whole season lockout? Knowing Bettman and the owners, they'll **** it all up and we'll lose an entire season.

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08-27-2012, 09:22 AM
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I will when the Vikes lose a few games next month. Right now I'm way too busy to care about hockey.

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maybe if a lockout happens the Minnesota Vixens will get some airtime. oooo and we could all don our Wild jerseys to Swarm games

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I am totally going to LFL games this year if I can remember too.

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One of the gals I know from high school is on that team, needless to say she's quite attractive.

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Does anyone recall how the contracts worked out during the last lockout?

i.e. Bouchard, Backstrom, etc. contracts are all up at the end of the season. Are those contracts now extended another year or are they still up after the calender season?

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Does anyone recall how the contracts worked out during the last lockout?

i.e. Bouchard, Backstrom, etc. contracts are all up at the end of the season. Are those contracts now extended another year or are they still up after the calender season?
Believe they would be up.

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The part that pisses me off about all of this is the lack of urgency. Granted I don't know all the details behind everything that goes into this but it just seems to me that both sides procrastinated even going into this thing and both sides are dragging their feet now that we're in it..

The Owners & The NHLPA both knew this was coming for years. You'd think that both sides would already have had proposals ready to go. Maybe they couldnt start anything til after the Stanley Cup this year but I dont see any reasons why by July they weren't knee deep in this thing starting to get things hashed out!

I may be wrong but doesn't it seem like extremely unnecessary chunks of time have gone by before sides really starting doing anything.. First the Owners took their sweet time delivering their proposal. Then it took almost a month for the NHLPA to counter proposal. Then another few weeks go by and we get what, a combined 2 hours of meetings. These were supposed to be multiple full days worth of talks & negotiating but instead we got 45 minutes sessions then cancelling the rest of the day. Only to be told they'll talk again in a week.

I dont get it... I wouldnt be upset if I felt that both sides were truly trying to reach an agreement but it just seems that everyone is trying to puff their chest. How can grown ass men sit and act this way!?

Both sides 100% know that they can't get everything they want. With 20 days left in this BS you'd think there'd be meeting daily. I just dont understand what benefit there is in letting it go this far..

I know that the Owners benefit more from there actually being a lockout because it puts more pressure on the players but all its making me do is lose tons of respect for the owners. I think it makes them sound like bullies. Especially since the NHLPA said they'd agree to play under the current contract as long talks continued to move forward and the league said "No!". To me, that just says that the owners are greedy & are almost pouting until they get their way. There's no good faith shown..

Does anyone understand this more? Obviously I know it's not just as cut and dry as meeting in the middle and signing their names on a sheet of paper but I honestly don't understand the tactics used by either side... But if someone could explain to me why this is happening the way it is I would greatly appreciate it.

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08-27-2012, 11:57 AM
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Because ownership will not lose much money by losing games compared to the players, and the longer the ownership makes the players wait, the more they will gain long-term.

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My opinion;

NHLPA: Fehr wanted to continue the current CBA so that he could use his favorite negotiating tactic; Strike right before the play-offs.

NHL Owners: Knew they were in a position of power far and away more so than they were in 2004.

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The delay is all about bargining leverage.

The fact is that players have almost zero personal expenses meaning that player revenue = player profit. Owners have a lot of business expenses, including players. Owner revenue - owner cost = owner revenue.

The dirty little secret of these negotiations is that player profit >>>>>>> owner profit.

That's the only reason a lock-out is a threat. Because the players make more than the owners. That makes a lock-out more damaging to the players.

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