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08-26-2012, 08:56 PM
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You can not be serious. If you are, stop posting.

Habs would never do this. Asinine offer.
This is a public forum and you are free to give your opinion.

But i already know the opinion of habs fan and im not really interested in it.

What i want to know is if Flyers fans would accept Carey Price (6 500 000$) for Couturier straight up? I consider Price is a lot better and more realistic offer for Couturier than Malcom Subban.

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This is a public forum and you are free to give your opinion.

But i already know the opinion of habs fan and im not really interested in it.

What i want to know is if Flyers fans would accept Carey Price (6 500 000$) for Couturier straight up? I consider Price is a lot better and more realistic offer for Couturier than Malcom Subban.
Can we send you Bryzgalov too? Maybe add Lars Eller or some similarly decent but not amazing young player.


If so, hell yes.

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08-26-2012, 09:12 PM
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Can we send you Bryzgalov too? Maybe add Lars Eller or some similarly decent but not amazing young player.


If so, hell yes.
No, i dont want nothing to do with Bryzgalov at all, its your problem, do with him as you want.

I just want Price for Couturier straight up. But dont forget down the line Price will eat 6 500 000$ cap space that will not be allowed elsewhere on the lineup.

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08-26-2012, 09:18 PM
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I wouldn't even entertain trading P.K for Couturier.i see Couturier rounding out as a 55-65 point forward.I see P.K panning out to be a #1 D-man.
Couturier is becomming highly overrated on this board.
We'll keep P.K thankyou.
You don't trade future #1Dmen for future 65 pt 2nd line centers.

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08-26-2012, 09:23 PM
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For the record, I'd rather keep PK but something like this intrigues me...

To
  • Sean Couturier
  • Braydon Coburn

To
  • PK Subban
  • Tomas Plekanec

A few spare pieces could be added one way or the other to even out the deal...

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08-26-2012, 09:35 PM
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I'm not sure, but I'd guess that Couturier is highly rated on the boards because he rocked in the high-profile series against Pittsburgh. He has good offensive potential, he's 6'4", and he did a decent job shutting down Evgeni Malkin, the best offensive player in the world. Couturier was so good against Pittsburgh that James Neal singled him out as the Flyers players he most wanted to injure. He didn't go for Briere, for Coburn, for Schenn, for Voracek, etc ... he went for Sean Couturier.

With that said, the Habs have decent depth at center (Plekanec, Desharnais, Eller, Galchenyuk) but have a horrible defense even with Subban. I don't do Subban for Couturier straight up. A bare minimum might be PK Subban and Rene Bourque for Sean Couturier and a 2013 1st rounder. Here Philadelphia would take on a salary dump and add a 1st rounder.

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08-26-2012, 09:39 PM
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Surprised at the number of Flyers fans saying they'd do Couturier for Subban when they were pretty vocal that Couturier was a non-starter for a Shea Weber trade.

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08-26-2012, 09:44 PM
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Surprised at the number of Flyers fans saying they'd do Couturier for Subban when they were pretty vocal that Couturier was a non-starter for a Shea Weber trade.
We're talking value.

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08-26-2012, 09:48 PM
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I don't see why Montreal sould trade for a young potential star centre until they see what they have in Galchenyuk.

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08-26-2012, 09:55 PM
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This is a public forum and you are free to give your opinion.

But i already know the opinion of habs fan and im not really interested in it.

What i want to know is if Flyers fans would accept Carey Price (6 500 000$) for Couturier straight up? I consider Price is a lot better and more realistic offer for Couturier than Malcom Subban.
Hence why Bryz goes to the Habs. Huge $ difference & 12.17 in goal is tough in a cap world.

Couturier is value on EL while PK Subban is an unsigned RFA that probably expects 5-6 per just because that seems to be what better then average D got this summer. Couts has already proven himself capable in in 11 playoff games in year 1 against competition like Malkin.

Price is probably a better goalie then Bryz but only 1 has a SC ring.

I doubt this would happen but remember cap $s are a big part of every trade & Flyers would be taking on a lot of cap hit.

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08-26-2012, 10:05 PM
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Flyers want to keep Couts. Not saying anything negative about Subban, but the Flyers management love Couts. Couts offensive game is extremely under rated on these boards also. He is only 19 playing extremely tough minutes for the Flyers. He barely touched the ice on the PP and was a main cog on the PK. Saying he will round out to a 55-65 point player is asinine. He has all the talent to become an Eric Stall clone, but with some of the best defense in the game.

Subban can become a #1 also, but the Flyers are not looking to trade away the young kids they acquired in the Carter/Richards deal. It would somewhat admit that they made a mistake if they trade these kids away so quickly. I don't see them making that quick of a decision on whether the kids will be stars or not. Especially after one year in the NHL.

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Of course getting Subban would be painful. Did you expect to get him for spare parts?
No. I dont expect to get him....unless he signs an RFA offer.

For what Couturier has the potential to be , an elite two way centerman, I dont know what would be fair value for him.

The correct thing is to not even deal him.

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08-26-2012, 10:09 PM
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Let me tell you the story of Bryz. Waiver wire pick-up by PHX, then BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEM, does great. GM PH signs him to 50M+ and gets lucky on his trades of Richards/Carter, so then they didn't need that great of a goalie. Then, the Yotes pick up a back-up from Tampa, and now he is considered great. Then, Philly trades their young, pretty good back-up, so then they can play Leighton for ~20 games.
A system can help, but not transform a goaltender.

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08-26-2012, 10:10 PM
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Hence why Bryz goes to the Habs. Huge $ difference & 12.17 in goal is tough in a cap world.

Couturier is value on EL while PK Subban is an unsigned RFA that probably expects 5-6 per just because that seems to be what better then average D got this summer. Couts has already proven himself capable in in 11 playoff games in year 1 against competition like Malkin.

Price is probably a better goalie then Bryz but only 1 has a SC ring.

I doubt this would happen but remember cap $s are a big part of every trade & Flyers would be taking on a lot of cap hit.
I dont want anything to do with Bryzgalov to Montreal, i just want to know if flyers fan would want Price for Couturier straight up. They can then trade Bryzgalov anywhere they want, or put him in the minor.

Isnt Price an incredible offer for Couturier and flyers fan should jump on it? Doesnt Price worth more than Subban ?

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08-26-2012, 10:14 PM
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No. I dont expect to get him....unless he signs an RFA offer.

For what Couturier has the potential to be , an elite two way centerman, I dont know what would be fair value for him.

The correct thing is to not even deal him.
I guess a potential elite two-way D? Since we're talking on potential that is.

Either way, don't blame philly fans for saying no. I say no as well from habs pov.

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As a Flyers fan, I would have to say 'No' to all proposals so far.

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Meh, no interest to move Subban for Couturier. I'm comfortable waiting to see what we have in Galchenyuk, DD and Eller. Couts is still very much an unproven commodity in terms of upside and I wouldn't really be willing to move Subban for anything less than a sure thing. Plus, when you have a guy in Subban that is popular with the fans and goes on record saying he wants to be a Hab for life, you better be damn sure your winning the trade.

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Since Subban is arguably the Habs #1 dman right now and they just drafted a centre in Galchenyuk I'd rather keep PK.

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What about....

Couturier+Bryzgalov for Carey Price?

Would both sides do that deal?

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What about....

Couturier+Bryzgalov for Carey Price?

Would both sides do that deal?
Why would Montreal do that?

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As a Flyers fan, I would have to say 'No' to all proposals so far.
lol @ saying no to Price for Couts

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Since Subban is arguably the Habs #1 dman right now and they just drafted a centre in Galchenyuk I'd rather keep PK.
Yah, we might get core young players at EVERY position. Good recipe IMO.

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08-26-2012, 10:27 PM
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What about....

Couturier+Bryzgalov for Carey Price?

Would both sides do that deal?
Not really. Bryz's contract is still an albatross and I'd much rather keep Price than move him for Couts and Bryz.

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What about....

Couturier+Bryzgalov for Carey Price?

Would both sides do that deal?
take out Bryzgalov and as a Montreal fan i say yes.

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Yah, we might get core young players at EVERY position. Good recipe IMO.
Agreed plus I also like the progress Eller made last year defensively and with decent linemates he'll probably be a consistent 20 - 25 goal guy in the NHL hopefully.

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