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08-18-2012, 10:49 PM
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What about Duguay's mullet?


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first game I ever saw was this game on a B&W tv


first game I ever went to was in 1984 the Kings beat Gretzky and the Oilers 7-2 on a Steve Shutt hat trick here is the write up link

two of my best memories ever.

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What about Duguay's mullet?

The originator of the mullet.

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Remember when Craig Johnson and Patrice Tardiff were going to propel the Kings back in to the playoffs?

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don't forget the great Roman Vopat, Jan Vopat's brother. Holy crap, what a terrible trade that was.

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Ah yes, Roman Vopat, the proclaimed "gem" of the Gretzky trade and yet another big bodied player the Kings brought in with the thought that he'd be a future top line center. Sam "The Disaster" McMaster had a tendency to overhype his acquisitions.
http://articles.latimes.com/1996-12-...0_1_great-fans
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http://community.seattletimes.nwsour...0&slug=2318207

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Without looking it up, anyone remember the storyline to the last game of the 94-95 (lockout) season?

This one has always stuck with me.....

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Without looking it up, anyone remember the storyline to the last game of the 94-95 (lockout) season?

This one has always stuck with me.....
Something tells me that it was a game against Chicago. Win and they make playoffs. Of course they lost. But besides that details are scarce in my head.

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Something tells me that it was a game against Chicago. Win and they make playoffs. Of course they lost. But besides that details are scarce in my head.
I remember that game quite vividly as I had friends over and we were psyched at the thought of the Kings playing the game of their lives in order to get into the playoffs. Of course the Kings make the stupid decision to start Fuhr over Hrudey and they lost the game.

The Kings had won two consecutive games against the Ducks and the Jets and had won 3 of their last 4 games before the Chicago game. Kelly Hrudey recorded two of those wins, with a 30 save performance against Detroit in a 5-1 win (and mind you the Red Wings were the best team in the NHL that season). Hrudey was also in net against Winnipeg, recording 42 saves, allowing only 1 goal in a 2-1 game that the Kings had no business of winning. Tim Cheveldae of the Jets only faced 13 shots in that game.

Of course the scheduling would also be garbage as the Kings would play the Hawks the day after the exhausting battle against the Jets. Talk about crappy travel as the Kings had a back-to-back in Winnipeg then Chicago. The Kings lost 5-1, Fuhr let in four goals. He should have never been in net, and the Kings made a poor choice in going with Rogie Vachon as the interim coach behind the bench. I guess they couldn't afford to hire anyone else at the time. Vachon took over duties behind the bench with only 7 games to go on the season.

I was so ticked off that they lost that game and that they went with Fuhr in net. But we all had the draft to look forward to with the Kings winning the draft lottery to pick Aki Berg at 3rd overall. See, the Kings don't need Alexei Zhitnik or Darryl Sydor when you can draft the likes of Aki Berg, the future pillar on defense.

Found the LA Times' coverage of the Jets game here:
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"We definitely didn't play like a team chasing the playoffs, we were so sloppy," he said. "But Kelly was amazing. Maybe we were looking too much ahead to tomorrow. So sloppy and not enough emotion."

Said King right wing Rick Tocchet, who missed part of the third period when his back tightened again: "Kelly Hrudey . . . elevated his game to a different level. I thought our defense played their best game of the year and the forwards played our worst of the year."

Maybe it was because the Jets seemed to corner all the emotion on Tuesday. Several were teary-eyed afterward.

"I feel bad for all those people out there tonight," Gilhen said. "They're caught in the middle of big business. They're fans and they just want to enjoy the game and I feel bad for them."

Hrudey was probably the only player in the building enjoying himself.

"People probably think it's nerve-racking, but I had a ton of fun," he said. "I just let it happen. But I have an outlet. People watching don't have an outlet."

Wayne Gretzky said he just kept his head down on the bench and tried to regroup for his next shift. The Kings seemed to sit back after defenseman Rob Blake's power-play goal at 11:08 of the first made it 2-0. They had only three shots in the third period and 13 in all.


Gretzky has experienced nearly everything in his NHL career--but not this, not a playoff spot being determined on the final day of the season .

"First time and it's not fun," he said, shaking his head. "It's like a Game 7. But at least we're in a position to do something. I'd rather be us than in Dallas's position.

"It's like they (the Jets) kept coming at us. We had five guys in our end waiting for them."

Forward Pat Conacher, who set up Kurri's goal with a pinpoint pass from the right circle praised both goaltenders, Hrudey and Grant Fuhr, who is starting against the Blackhawks tonight.

"Let's face it, goaltending is the game," he said.

"We've got two guys doing it well. We're not there yet. Kelly and Grant are standing tall. Now if we can get a few goals for them."
And here's a recap of the last game that season against the Blackhawks:
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This has been a hard fall from grace. Only two years ago, the Kings reached the Stanley Cup finals, losing to Montreal in five games. Now, they are a mere shell of that organization, having been dismantled in the quixotic quest of creating a bigger, stronger team.

"We went too much overboard," said team President and interim Coach Rogie Vachon.

Big and strong couldn't generate much offense all season. The Kings' shortcomings and lack of depth became more glaring once Tony Granato went out with a broken foot and Rick Tocchet sat out 12 of the last 15 games because of a strained lower back, including Wednesday's finale. The Kings' offense dried up, and they lost eight of their final nine road games and were shut out three times during that stretch.

Chicago and goaltender Ed Belfour--winners of the Jennings Trophy for fewest goals given up by a team--nearly did again. Belfour, who wasn't exactly busy through the first two periods, facing only 12 shots, was flawless until Dan Quinn ended his shutout bid at 15:37 of the third period. Chicago clinched home-ice advantage against Toronto in the first round and the Kings made the path easier by generating only two shots on goal in the first 11 minutes.

After one period, the Kings trailed, 1-0, not a positive sign for them. They finished 0-18-1 when trailing after one period.

The Blackhawks found scoring from different sources Wednesday. Aging center Denis Savard scored once, as did defensemen Gerald Diduck and Eric Weinrich. Left wing Patrick Poulin scored twice, the second coming on an empty-netter at 18:02 with King goaltender Grant Fuhr pulled for an extra attacker.

"They beat us pretty handily," defenseman Rob Blake said. "We didn't have much going. It was a big game and we came out flat. It was a bunch of things. We've got to get a better effort. Missing the playoffs two years in a row isn't acceptable."

Said King goaltender Kelly Hrudey: "It's disappointing and I guess that just doesn't describe it. Even more so than last year. Last year, the writing was on the wall. We all thought we had a chance."

There are always what-ifs and maybes in any season. And Gretzky lamented two games the Kings let slip away. They squandered a two-goal lead in the final 61 seconds in a 5-5 tie against St. Louis on Feb. 7 and more recently let the Oilers climb back to a 3-3 tie on April 21 in the final 3:24.


Gretzky even singled out a penalty that led to an Oiler power-play goal when Jiri Slegr scored with 3:24 remaining to cut the lead to 3-2.

"It was a horrible call," he said. "It was a call that cost this organization millions of dollars. When you give away points, that's what you remember. We dug ourselves in a hole in this position. It's nobody's fault. I'm not blaming anyone."

Blame most certainly will be assigned during another lengthy King off-season. Vachon promised sweeping changes, trying to address the problems of scoring and speed. He also has to find a new coach.

Said Gretzky: "This organization will have to make a decision--whether we're going to go for it or go totally youth-oriented."


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08-20-2012, 07:15 PM
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Which Vopat had that rare skin disease. I want to guess it was Jan

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I saw Roman Vopat driving a convertible back in the day with a girl and had a Kings sticker on my car. I waved to him and he waved back. That was the last I saw of him!

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I saw Roman Vopat driving a convertible back in the day with a girl and had a Kings sticker on my car. I waved to him and he waved back. That was the last I saw of him!

Did he ride off into the sunset?

And yes, Jan Vopat was the unfortunate Vopat brother who contracted some skin disease while he was with the Nashville Predators.
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Ever since he was scratched from the Predators' lineup on Nov. II, Nashville defenseman Jan Vopat has been itching to return to the ice. Trouble is, itching is what got him scratched in the first place. It appears that after playing hockey his whole life, Vopat has become allergic to something in his uniform and pads.

The condition developed late in the 1998-99 season, when Vopat broke out in a rash that covered most of his body. Team doctors were baffled, and Vopat visited specialists in several cities to no avail. Finally, in September, a Louisville dermatologist diagnosed the ailment as a reaction to a combination of soaps and detergent. Vopat was treated with an ointment and cleared to practice, but the condition returned within two weeks. Even worse, Vopat irritated the rash every time he broke out in a sweat. As a result he has been inactive since mid-November. "He can't sweat," says Predators coach Barry Trotz. "What can we do?"

Though he remains on injured reserve, Vopat finally returned to practice last Friday with liners sewn to the inside of his pads and uniform. "At this point all I can do is laugh about it," says Vopat, a 26-year-old Czech who has played in only six games this season after having five goals and six assists in 55 games in '98-99. "If 1 don't, I will just make myself crazy."
He ended up retiring as a result of this odd disease.

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I am VERY glad this was here when I logged in. I'm not really one to comment on this since my first Kings game was in 2002. But I was just thinking today about game 3 of the 2011 playoffs against the sharks. yes, that infamous one.

Believe it or not, that was the most memorable game of my life, (maybe second behind game 3 of the SCF, just because of the significance). Game 3 against the Sharks was my first playoff game ever, and the atmosphere was completely amazing. I was in the nosebleeds, and that only contributed to it. The crowd was almost COMPLETELY dressed in black, the towel waving was quite the spectacle, and it was LOUD!! THE LOUDEST SPORTS EVENT I HAVE YET TO WITNESS!! I remember when Kyle Clifford scored his goal, the building erupted. People in my section were throwing beer, falling over. I was screaming at the top of my lungs.

Yes, we lost in a horrible fashion, but for a time there, it was just magical. I was a little disappointed to be honest, during the past year's playoffs. The noise level, nor the atmosphere, lived up to that game. IT was still loud, but not as loud as game 3 of 2011.

Oh well, I'm just walking down memory lane.

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From 1985

Found three articles from the LA Times covering the game. Some funny stuff in there:

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The Soviet Red Army hockey team landed in Los Angeles on Christmas Eve and went through an easy hour-long practice at the Forum before going to Westwood to watch a movie Tuesday night.

The Kings had arranged for them to see "Out of Africa," but the Soviet players were holding out for "Rocky IV."
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The Soviets are scheduled to practice today at the Forum (the Kings have Christmas off) and they were pressuring the Kings to arrange a trip to Disneyland for this afternoon. "I think more players want to go to Disneyland than practice," said Sergey Levin, a reporter for the Los Angeles Russian TV network, who acted as the team's translator.
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All of the games on the tour will be played under NHL rules. However, the Soviets brought their own referee and he will officiate two of the games, including the opener against the Kings. Two NHL linesmen will work the game with the Soviet referee.

Referee Nikoly Morozov skated with the team at practice and even took a few shots toward the end of the session. NHL referees are not allowed to associate with teams.

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After making a 23-point improvement in the National Hockey League standings last season, the No. 1 turnaround in the league, the Kings' 1985-86 season has been one to forget.

They've sunk to 20th place in the 21-team league and have been ranked near the bottom all season in power plays, in killing penalties and in goals allowed. They have the worst home record in the NHL and have been shut out four times.

But the Kings have a chance to gain some respect tonight when they play the Soviet Red Army team at the Forum. Realistically, however, the Kings' chances of winning are slim.

If they can't beat the last-place Detroit Red Wings at home, how are they going to beat the Red Army?

"Maybe we'll learn something," King center Marcel Dionne said.

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Many hockey observers had predicted that the powerful Soviet team would embarrass the Kings, who have the second worst record in the NHL

However, the game was anything but a blowout.

"It's very surprising for us," Red Army Coach Victor Tikhonov said through a translator after the game. "We played very difficult against his team, particularly in the second period.

"I didn't think that Janecyk could play like that. He played not only good, but his play helped to stabilize his teammates."

The Red Army, which is the best hockey team in the Soviet Union, plays Wayne Gretzky and the two-time defending Stanley Cup champion Edmonton Oilers tonight in Edmonton, Canada.

"We know Mr. Gretzky very well," the Soviet coach said.
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The game was officiated by a Soviet referee, Nikolay Morozov, who didn't call any penalties on the Red Army until the third period when it already had a three-goal lead.

The Kings felt that Morozov overlooked at least three hooking penalties in the second period that would have given them a power plays and a chance to tie the game.

Asked about the referee, King left wing Dave (Tiger) Williams said: "He was never in position. He was calling the game from a different rule book.

"It was a disappointment. I wanted to beat them. The good thing about the game was that the Forum was sold out. I knew how important it was to our fans. They've been good to me.

"I hope this is the only game that they (the Soviets) win. Unfortunately, the win came against us. In Canada they'll have a Canadian ref. That will make a big difference."
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The Red Army players didn't get to go to Disneyland, but they saw a movie in Westwood Tuesday night ("Out of Africa") and they went to the beach.

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Found three articles from the LA Times covering the game. Some funny stuff in there:

http://articles.latimes.com/1985-12-...1501_1_soviets

If they can't beat the last-place Detroit Red Wings at home, how are they going to beat the Red Army?

"Maybe we'll learn something," King center Marcel Dionne said.
Funny that we are looking back on this now, 27 years later when the Kings are the Cup champions, the Wings are arguably a dynasty for the past 16 years or so and the two teams are *****in off at each other on twitter about whose better.

Nice to see times have finally changed for us.

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Reading quotes from Rick Tocchet brought back another bad memory. The Robitaille trade. First heard it on radio. After the initial shock wore off, it was devastation because Luc was my favorite player. Plus only memories of Tocchet for me was his injuries.

I think during the lockout season, they filmed Sudden Death starring the great Jean-Claude Van Damme. I remember they were going to have NHL players in the movie, but didn't because of the lockout. But I remember Luc playing a real NHL player in the movie, as a Penguins player Not sure but he might have been the only current player at that time.

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Reading quotes from Rick Tocchet brought back another bad memory. The Robitaille trade. First heard it on radio. After the initial shock wore off, it was devastation because Luc was my favorite player. Plus only memories of Tocchet for me was his injuries.

I think during the lockout season, they filmed Sudden Death starring the great Jean-Claude Van Damme. I remember they were going to have NHL players in the movie, but didn't because of the lockout. But I remember Luc playing a real NHL player in the movie, as a Penguins player Not sure but he might have been the only current player at that time.
The Penguins score three goals in that movie. Tomas Sandstrom, Kevin Stevens and Luc Robitaille. When Luc scores on a breakaway with like 3 seconds left you see that Jaromir Jagr is celebrating on the bench.

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I am VERY glad this was here when I logged in. I'm not really one to comment on this since my first Kings game was in 2002. But I was just thinking today about game 3 of the 2011 playoffs against the sharks. yes, that infamous one.

Believe it or not, that was the most memorable game of my life, (maybe second behind game 3 of the SCF, just because of the significance). Game 3 against the Sharks was my first playoff game ever, and the atmosphere was completely amazing. I was in the nosebleeds, and that only contributed to it. The crowd was almost COMPLETELY dressed in black, the towel waving was quite the spectacle, and it was LOUD!! THE LOUDEST SPORTS EVENT I HAVE YET TO WITNESS!! I remember when Kyle Clifford scored his goal, the building erupted. People in my section were throwing beer, falling over. I was screaming at the top of my lungs.

Yes, we lost in a horrible fashion, but for a time there, it was just magical. I was a little disappointed to be honest, during the past year's playoffs. The noise level, nor the atmosphere, lived up to that game. IT was still loud, but not as loud as game 3 of 2011.

Oh well, I'm just walking down memory lane.
It was my first Cup game also.

Luckily I wiped that memory out this spring, attending Game 4 vs. the Blues and Game 3 of the Finals vs. the Devils.

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I remember being quite ticked off when I was a kid watching the KTLA News on Ch. 5 with Stu Nahan announcing that the Kings had traded Paul Coffey.

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"I'm shocked, that would be my word for it," said Carson, who has twice scored 100 or more points in a season. "If I had to be traded, L.A. would be one of my first choices. Bruce McNall told me when he traded me before that someday he'd get me back.

"But I didn't really believe him."

Many King players expressed disbelief when the trade was announced. Although rumors of an impending trade had been prevalent for the last couple of weeks, Coffey, 31, was considered a popular figure with the club's young defensemen.

Forward Warren Rychel lives in an apartment with Coffey and Hiller in Manhattan Beach, and he answered the phone when General Manager Nick Beverley called at 7 a.m. "The way they were passing the phone around, I thought I was next," Rychel said.

Coffey said: "I knew Nick Beverley wasn't calling at 7 in the morning to ask me to go to breakfast."

Some other teammates were angered by Friday's developments.

One player declined to comment, and Gretzky left the team's practice facility in Van Nuys without speaking to reporters. Gretzky, one of Coffey's best friends, was said to be quite upset over the trade. The two broke into the NHL together at Edmonton.

"One thing I'm a little disappointed about is I came out here last year to play with Wayne," said Coffey, who is the NHL's all-time leading scorer among defensemen. "That's probably the toughest part of this whole thing. He wants to win at all costs. That's all he wants to do is win. He's frustrated right now. He's been back three weeks now, and it's not happening. I phoned him this morning at 7 when I found out. He was upset. There were tears, and (his wife) Janet was real upset.

"I often wonder why they made this trade. I don't know why I'm going to Detroit. Nothing against Detroit. . . . There was so much pressure on Wayne. One thing I wanted to do was take some of the heat off him and put it on my shoulders. I feel real bad for Wayne. I feel real empty right now. How many times do you strike up a fabulous friendship like that?"


If Gretzky, Coffey and other Kings weren't pleased about the trade, the sentiment, obviously, was somewhat different with Beverley and Coach Barry Melrose.

Melrose had wanted Shuchuk and Potvin even before the season started, having known them from coaching at Adirondack last season. Beverley was on the Kings' scouting staff when the team made Carson its second pick overall in the 1986 draft.

"To get the deal done, it had to become a bigger deal," Melrose said. "What we gave up is a great defenseman. We gave up one player who was playing regularly, for three people who can play regularly. The reason we were able to do this is because of the development of our young defensemen. We're putting our future in the hands of our kids."

Said Beverley: "It certainly isn't easy at any time to move a player of that caliber. We're singing a lot of praise toward Paul Coffey, and rightfully so. But I'm not apologizing for making the deal. Jimmy Carson is a great player in his own right."

Carson's path back to Los Angeles wasn't a smooth one. He grew disenchanted with the Oilers and left them during the 1989-90 season after four games. Edmonton traded him to Detroit in a six-player deal that November.

"I'm sad to be leaving Detroit because I'm from there and have a lot of family and friends there," Carson said. "It could be a heck of a lot worse. It's a good career move. I'll get (more) ice time because Detroit has a good team and they're strong at center."

KINGS GET:

* Jimmy Carson--Center who was traded to Edmonton for Wayne Gretzky returns to L.A.

* Gary Shuchuk--Leads the American Hockey League in scoring with 77 points.

* Marc Potvin--Right wing had 109 penalty minutes in 37 minor league games.

* RED WINGS GET:

* Paul Coffey--The NHL's all-time leading scorer among defensemen says he is disappointed because he had wanted to continue playing with Wayne Gretzky.

* Jim Hiller--Right wing, Coffey's roommate.

* Sylvain Courturier--A minor league center.
As it turns out, Barry Melrose would not be a big fan of Jimmy Carson and he would oftentimes be a healthy scratch or end up being benched. Carson's star quickly faded as he was no longer a productive player when the Kings acquired him and he regressed even further and would soon be done with the NHL.

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Bruce McNall, owner of the Kings, didn't want to part with Carson in the Wayne Gretzky trade. He called him his adopted son. He offered to pay the Edmonton Oilers an extra $5 million to keep him out of the deal. Failing that, McNall promised he would bring Carson back to the Kings one day.


Mike Ilitch, owner of the Detroit Red Wings, felt much the same way. After the Red Wings bypassed Carson in the 1986 draft, selecting Joe Murphy instead of the hometown hero, Ilitch considered it almost a personal mission to get Carson in a Detroit uniform, which Ilitch did in 1989 in a six-player deal.

Late last month, with Detroit girding for a push for the Stanley Cup, the Red Wings found All-Star defenseman Paul Coffey available, but the asking price was Carson. Persuaded that Coffey was worth the cost, Ilitch reluctantly agreed to the trade, but only if he could tell Carson himself.

Owners are one thing, players another. Carson has never been voted most popular King, Red Wing or Oiler by his teammates, and probably never will.

He keeps winding up in the wrong place at the wrong time--at the center of controversial trades that tend to send that team's Mr. Congeniality packing.

In Edmonton, he wasn't Wayne Gretzky.

In Detroit, he could never live up to the acclaim that accompanied his arrival.

And in Los Angeles, he has been no Coffey substitute, not in "the room," where at least one King actually cried when he heard the news of the trade.

"I miss him," forward Warren Rychel said of Coffey, 31. "He was my best friend."

Said a shaken Rob Blake, Coffey's defensive partner: "I think Paul handled it better than I did."

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Barry Potomski - Robert Lang - Steve Larouche
Steve Larouche??? Former 50 goal scorer Steve Larouche or someone else?

I had moved to Wisconsin by then and in the pre-Center Ice days it was difficult (some might say a blessing) keeping up with the team.

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