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Canucks re-sign G Eddie Lack to 2 year, $1.5 million deal (2 way for 1st year)

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08-27-2012, 07:55 PM
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Schneider had better teams and he was a more highly touted goalie. Look at each others save % than talk.
Better than save %, look at game highlights from the playoffs a year back.

Lack literally brought his team to the 3rd round of the playoffs single handedly and made 68 (I think) saves in the game that sent them packing.

Lack is a beaut.

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08-27-2012, 08:13 PM
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Good. Now trade Schneider.

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08-27-2012, 08:26 PM
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Good. Now trade Schneider.
Right...

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Huzzah! The stork is signed!

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Right...
I'd be more comfortable with Luongo-Lack than Schneider-Lack, and I feel as though Schneider's return would improve the Canucks more than Luongo's....but that's another story for another thread, another day.

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08-28-2012, 12:07 AM
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I'm not an expert in NHL contracts. But how is his NHL cap hit lower for the next 2 yrs vs. the previous 2 yrs?? $900K for last 2 yrs, $750K for next 2 yrs. Is Gilman a serious genius or what? This guy is a jedi with supernatural abilities.

Let's all take a moment to thank Gilman for his summer of greatness. Signing Garrison at below market value, signing Raymond and Volaptti for lower than last yrs cap hit, signing Lack at a lower cap hit than previous years, and finally - for singing Schneider before he actually knows if he'll be the starter next yr. Genius.

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I'm not an expert in NHL contracts. But how is his NHL cap hit lower for the next 2 yrs vs. the previous 2 yrs?? $900K for last 2 yrs, $750K for next 2 yrs. Is Gilman a serious genius or what? This guy is a jedi with supernatural abilities.

Let's all take a moment to thank Gilman for his summer of greatness. Signing Garrison at below market value, signing Raymond and Volaptti for lower than last yrs cap hit, signing Lack at a lower cap hit than previous years, and finally - for singing Schneider before he actually knows if he'll be the starter next yr. Genius.
Lack was signed to a two way deal that paid him 900K if he played at the NHL level, which he did not, and something around 60-80K to play in the AHL.

Last two years he earned that 60-80K per in the AHL, not 900K.

This year, if he plays in the NHL he will make $650K in the NHL or if he plays in the AHL, about 80K again.

The year after, he gets a guaranteed $850K since he's on a one way NHL deal. His cap hit, however, will be $750K when he's playing in the NHL.

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08-28-2012, 12:27 AM
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Lack was signed to a two way deal that paid him 900K if he played at the NHL level, which he did not, and something around 60-80K to play in the AHL.

Last two years he earned that 60-80K per in the AHL, not 900K.

This year, if he plays in the NHL he will make $650K in the NHL or if he plays in the AHL, about 80K again.

The year after, he gets a guaranteed $850K since he's on a one way NHL deal. His cap hit, however, will be $750K when he's playing in the NHL.
Thanks for the breakdown. I guess I was more referring to his NHL cap hit, as it's the one which effects the Canucks cap abilities. His salary goes up, but his cap hit goes down from $900K to $750K. How the heck did that work?

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Woo. Great signing.
Excited to see Lack, hopefully push for an NHL job in the next
couple years.

Can't believe we got someone this good as a free agent.

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08-28-2012, 12:32 AM
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Thanks for the breakdown. I guess I was more referring to his NHL cap hit, as it's the one which effects the Canucks cap abilities. His salary goes up, but his cap hit goes down from $900K to $750K. How the heck did that work?
He just gets more guaranteed money, so it's a win for him. And it's a win for us since it's only guaranteed money in the 2nd year.

And since his cap hit is really low it won't make it hard for us to squeeze him into the lineup, which gives him a better chance to play in the NHL and make the higher salary. Everyone wins.

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Thanks for the breakdown. I guess I was more referring to his NHL cap hit, as it's the one which effects the Canucks cap abilities. His salary goes up, but his cap hit goes down from $900K to $750K. How the heck did that work?
Same thing the Canucks did with Schneider and every team does with its prospects looking to make the show who are stuck in the AHL.

Guaranteed NHL salary even if they are stuck in the minors. Schneider took a paycut from his 1.25 or whatever his ELC cap hit was to 900k I believe as he knew it gave him a better chance of making the NHL (cap hit is lower) and it was a 1 way contract so he was actually earning all of it and not 100K of it.

If u were Eddie Lack would u want a potential 900k salary but most likely a 80k salary each year for playing in the AHL, or 750K guaranteed even if u play in the AHL?

Zack Boychuk took a huge paycut from 900k-1M to about 660K this year as the 2nd year is 1 way I believe. He was the 12th overall pick a few years back I believe.

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Holy ****, you guys are just beating a dead horse with the puns. And I thought that the thread about how Lack going to arbitration was enough...

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08-28-2012, 01:32 AM
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Holy ****, you guys are just beating a dead horse with the puns. And I thought that the thread about how Lack going to arbitration was enough...
You just lack the ability to understand these wonderful puns.

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08-28-2012, 02:08 AM
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Can't believe anybody thinking contracts thought "re: Lack's. Don't do it!"

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Don't really understand this Eddie Lack hype
He's good but not that great

Cory Schneider Stats in the AHL
84 Wins
45 Losses
5 Ties

Eddie Lack in the AHL
49 Wins
41 Losses
7 Ties

Granted he's Euro so there's more of an adjustment
The teams in front of them are different etc.

But his record at the A level does not jump out
I don't mean to insult you, but sometimes it seems that people who are not able to judge skills by seeing the player play, are the ones who tend to overemphasize on stats. Your point based on the presented stats is silly anyway and suggest that you really don't know wether Läck is good or that great.

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all hail gilman!

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08-28-2012, 11:00 AM
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Don't really understand this Eddie Lack hype
He's good but not that great

Cory Schneider Stats in the AHL
84 Wins
45 Losses
5 Ties

Eddie Lack in the AHL
49 Wins
41 Losses
7 Ties

Granted he's Euro so there's more of an adjustment
The teams in front of them are different etc.

But his record at the A level does not jump out
And Carey Price had a sub .500 record last season. Devan Dubnyk was ..500.

Who would you rather have?

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08-28-2012, 12:23 PM
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And Carey Price had a sub .500 record last season. Devan Dubnyk was ..500.

Who would you rather have?
Trick question. The answer is Reimer.

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Trick question. The answer is Reimer.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

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Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Not if Reimer is in net...

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Not if Reimer is in net...
HAZZA!!!!!

Lack may not have the pedigree of Schneider but he's got lots of potential.

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It's hard to do cross-comparisons between goaltenders, anyway. I wouldn't be spending too much time comparing Lack and Schneider's numbers. The question is whether they will translate into the NHL level.

Remember during the lockout when Lundqvist wasn't going to be as good as Toivonen, Toskala and even Schwarz? Yeah.

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Don't really understand this Eddie Lack hype
He's good but not that great

Cory Schneider Stats in the AHL
84 Wins
45 Losses
5 Ties

Eddie Lack in the AHL
49 Wins
41 Losses
7 Ties

Granted he's Euro so there's more of an adjustment
The teams in front of them are different etc.

But his record at the A level does not jump out

It's not just the records and stats that tell the skill and promise of players. Eddie stood on his head at the AHL level plus he looked great for us in the pre-season last year.

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HAZZA!!!!!

Lack may not have the pedigree of Schneider but he's got lots of potential.
Which is not to say that Lack will become as good as Schneider either. I frankly think that Schneider is special, regardless of where he was drafted.

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