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Possible future value is not equal to current value, right now hes probably 2 years from the NHL and could be 3 years depending how long he stays in SEL. You add to that the learning curve for most defensemen in the NHL from rookie year until they hit the value of the players you mentioned, his value is still a proven prospect and a pick. Once he makes it to the AHL/NHL and shows his potential can translate to the long hall of the NA game in NA arenas, his value will skyrocket, but until then, GMs tend not to overpay for possible future value.
Edit: I'll add he could be a B piece as part of a larger swap of roster players, but he's not a centerpiece player.
Klefbom was offered minutes if he came over. Schultz was not guaranteed that.
Klefbom feels he will get top 4 minutes in SEL with PP and PK time.
what i can draw from this is most fans think that murray and Rielly are worth a 2nd round pick. We have Anaheims 2013 2nd.
To me, this looks less like justification for high market value and more like a fantastic reason for the Oilers to keep him.
Precisely, he projects to be a very important part of our core going forward. Smid, Petry, J. Schultz, and Klefbom projects to be our top 4D in 2 years time IMO. Young yes, but big, mobile, and skilled (minus Smid whose skill is limited).
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I wouldn't want to try, frankly. We've got Murray, Moore, Savard, and Erixon. Klefbom's awesome, but, well, there's not much room left.
Yeah we could really use Dorsett, but we could really use Klefbom too. You guys sound set on D and could use a boost up front, so how about Erixon for Hemsky
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No they arent. I see Klefbom as being similar to Alex Edler, agree or disagree?
That's a little optimistic considering we haven't seen Klefbom in NA. However i do think the Oilers have a big toolsy defenseman who reminds me an awful lot of a younger Edler, his name is Jeff Petry. I don't expect him to end up quite as good (Edler is a premier defenseman IMO) but he should be very close in ability by the time he's 26.
I would argue the Oilers value Klefbom more highly then Schultz, and his ceiling as an all-around defensemen is higher and more important to their future success.
It needs to be said that Schultz is considered a very well rounded player. Just because his offense lead to the hype doesn't mean the defense is lacking. The guy won best defensive player of the year award in college two years running. He's considered to have a very solid defensive game. Good enough that he would probably be an NHLer without the possible elite offense. I'd argue both players share similar ceilings as top pairing two way defenseman. Schultz has the ede on offense and Klefbom the edge on defense.
Yeah there were absolutely no Canucks fans that were pissed that Schultz chose us over them, must be because he sucks.
Both are likely top 4 D with top pairing potential. I don't hear anyone saying that we have the next Doughty or Pietrangelo here do you? And if you think that they are being overrated then go on record and tell us what you see them being able to accomplish in their careers.
Did you tabulate that list OB or did you read it somewhere? That list definitely speaks for itself. I'd love to see the forward list sometime as well.
The forward list isn't nearly as impressively stacked. Pretty easy for a 5'9" to play well against U-20s only to struggle against men or a player to get on a roll and shoot stupidly well (>20%) and get named to the all star team.
And here is a list of the post-lockout defence all stars sorted by age on January 1st, the year of the tournament.
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Hedman 6218 days
Doughty 6593 days
Klefbom 6734 days
Karlsson 6784 days
E. Johnson 6855 days
Bourdon 6888 days
J. Johnson 6922 days
Orlov 7086 days
Subban 7137 days
Letang 7155 days
Phaneuf 7169 days
Gormley 7220 days
Suter 7248 days
Pietrangelo 7251 days
Carlson 7259 days
Ellis 7266 days
Note that Klefbom is the only one to return for a second year other than Hedman. Phaneuf is the most recent two time winner.
Yeah we could really use Dorsett, but we could really use Klefbom too. You guys sound set on D and could use a boost up front, so how about Erixon for Hemsky
I'm sorely tempted. The massive Flames trolling potential alone...
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Neither has played in the NHL and so it is a bit early to say that. Schultz will be a good d-man if there is an upcoming year and Klefbom should be a stud for years to come
