Prospect Info: Calgary Flames Top 20 Prospects

[TheHudlinator]

Here is what I think they will be

1. Bartschi - 8.5C
2. Brodie - 7.5B
3. Irving - 7.0B
4. Gaudreau - 8.5D
5. Reinhart - 7.5C
6. Jankowski - 8.5D
7. Horak - 6.5C
8. Nemisz - 6.0B
9. Granlund - 7.0D
10. Brossoit - 7.0C
11. Ferland - 7.0C
12. Sieloff - 7.0B
13. Arnold - 6.5C
14. Ramage - 6.0C
15. Byron - 6.5B
16. Aliu - 6.5C
17. Wotherspoon - 6.0C
18. Bouma 6.0B
19. Howse 7.5D
20. Ortio 6.0D

[Volica]

Originally Posted by TheGleninator

Here is what I think they will be

1. Bartschi - 8.5C
2. Brodie - 7.5B
3. Irving - 7.0B
4. Gaudreau - 8.5D
5. Reinhart - 7.5C
6. Jankowski - 8.5D
7. Horak - 6.5C
8. Nemisz - 6.0B
9. Granlund - 7.0D
10. Brossoit - 7.0C
11. Ferland - 7.0C
12. Sieloff - 7.0B
13. Arnold - 6.5C
14. Ramage - 6.0C
15. Byron - 6.5B
16. Aliu - 6.5C
17. Wotherspoon - 6.0C
18. Bouma 6.0B
19. Howse 7.5D
20. Ortio 6.0D

No way Calgary ever gets three +8s. Never will happen in a billion years.
Arnold should be a B, he has a real high chance of being a good third line center, Ferland and Brossoit are Ds.
Nemisz should be a 7 however C or D
Horak is a 6.5 A or B, he's proven he can be a bottom six guy.

[Devilspuppet666]

Originally Posted by TheGleninator

Here is what I think they will be

1. Bartschi - 8.5C
2. Brodie - 7.5B
3. Irving - 7.0B
4. Gaudreau - 8.5D
5. Reinhart - 7.5C
6. Jankowski - 8.5D
7. Horak - 6.5C
8. Nemisz - 6.0B
9. Granlund - 7.0D
10. Brossoit - 7.0C
11. Ferland - 7.0C
12. Sieloff - 7.0B
13. Arnold - 6.5C
14. Ramage - 6.0C
15. Byron - 6.5B
16. Aliu - 6.5C
17. Wotherspoon - 6.0C
18. Bouma 6.0B
19. Howse 7.5D
20. Ortio 6.0D

thats not the order cause if it is seiloff would be #7 cause his potential and chance of making it are high

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Devilspuppet666

thats not the order cause if it is seiloff would be #7 cause his potential and chance of making it are high

It looks like he, along with myself, just used the rankings from this thread. I don't agree with everyone of them.

[Stewie Griffin]

I don't recall HF changing previously rated players much, if ever.

For the newly drafted Flames sneaking into the top 20, here's my guess:

Jankowski: 10.0 F






(lol j/k)

Jankowski: 7.5 C
Sieloff: 6.5 C

And Jankowski's rating may still be generous. It's odd that a player like him, being so young and playing in an inferior league, may have his potential be judged based on the season following his draft year.

[InfinityIggy]

Originally Posted by Stewie Griffin

I don't recall HF changing previously rated players much, if ever.

For the newly drafted Flames sneaking into the top 20, here's my guess:

Jankowski: 10.0 F






(lol j/k)

Jankowski: 7.5 C
Sieloff: 6.5 C

And Jankowski's rating may still be generous. It's odd that a player like him, being so young and playing in an inferior league, may have his potential be judged based on the season following his draft year.

I would guess 8.0 D

Hard to say though.

[TheHudlinator]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

It looks like he, along with myself, just used the rankings from this thread. I don't agree with everyone of them.

Yep this I copied the order and then added the ratings.

[MarkGio]

What does the A, B, C, D stand for? Is the scale of 1 to 10 potential while the letters are probability?

[Stewie Griffin]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

What does the A, B, C, D stand for? Is the scale of 1 to 10 potential while the letters are probability?

Its all explained here http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

[InfinityIggy]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

What does the A, B, C, D stand for? Is the scale of 1 to 10 potential while the letters are probability?

More or less.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by Stewie Griffin

Its all explained here http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

Sweet, thanks. Now that I've completed a brisk skim of what I think was the rating system parameters, I'll pretend I'm an expert and do my own evaluation.

1. Bartschi - 9.0B
2. Brodie - 7.5A
3. Irving - 8.0D
4. Gaudreau - 9.0F
5. Reinhart - 7.5C
6. Jankowski - 8.0D
7. Horak - 6.0B
8. Nemisz - 5.5D
9. Granlund - 6.5D
10. Brossoit - 6.5C
11. Ferland - 7.5B
12. Sieloff - 7.5C
13. Arnold - 6.5D
14. Ramage - 6.0D
15. Byron - 6.0B
16. Aliu - 6.5C
17. Wotherspoon - 5.5C
18. Bouma 5.5B
19. Howse 6.5D
20. Ortio 6.0D

[WildFinn]

Markus Granlund has started the season ok.

Now he is his own teams best player and best junior scorer in the European Trophy, 2+3 4GP


http://www.europeantrophy.com/stats2012.php

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[Deen]

What about Karri Ramo? I know he is 26 and played in a few games for Tampa, But is he still a prospect that is worth looking at? He went 33-6 in 2010-2011 and even though his wins dropped in 2011-2012, his GAA still dropped and he played more minutes while facing more shots. Is he considered a bust?

[RA9]

My rankings are
1. Barstchi 8.5C
2. Brodie 7.0B
3. Irving 7.0B
4. Gaudreau 8.5D
5. Reinhart 7.5C
6. Jankowski 8.0D
7. Horak 6.0B
8. Nemisz 6.0D
9. Granlund 7.0D
10. Brossoit 5.5D
I only did the top ten cause im lazy haha

[HighLifeMan]

Here is my take.

1. Sven Baertschi - 8.5C
2. T.J.Brodie - 7.5B
3. Leland Irving - 7.5C
4. Mark Jankowski - 8.0D
5. John Gaudreau - 8.0D
6. Max Reinhart - 7.0B
7. Roman Horak - 6.5B
8. Greg Nemisz - 7.0C
9. Patrick Sieloff - 6.5B
10. Laurent Brossoit - 7.0C
11. Michael Ferland - 7.0C
12. Markus Granlund - 7.5D
13. Bill Arnold - 6.0B
14. John Ramage - 6.0B
15. Lance Bouma 5.5B
16. Tyler Wotherspoon - 6.5C
17. Paul Byron - 7.0D
18. Akim Aliu - 6.5C
19. Ryan Howse 7.0D
20. Coda Gordon - 7.0D

[Stewie Griffin]

Originally Posted by Deen

What about Karri Ramo? I know he is 26 and played in a few games for Tampa, But is he still a prospect that is worth looking at? He went 33-6 in 2010-2011 and even though his wins dropped in 2011-2012, his GAA still dropped and he played more minutes while facing more shots. Is he considered a bust?

I don't think he's considered a bust, as he's committed to his KHL team for the upcoming season.

Here's his ranking on HF:
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/karri_ramo/
(7.0 C)

[MVW]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Here is my take.

1. Sven Baertschi - 8.5C
2. T.J.Brodie - 7.5B
3. Leland Irving - 7.5C
4. Mark Jankowski - 8.0D
5. John Gaudreau - 8.0D
6. Max Reinhart - 7.0B
7. Roman Horak - 6.5B
8. Greg Nemisz - 7.0C
9. Patrick Sieloff - 6.5B
10. Laurent Brossoit - 7.0C
11. Michael Ferland - 7.0C
12. Markus Granlund - 7.5D
13. Bill Arnold - 6.0B
14. John Ramage - 6.0B
15. Lance Bouma 5.5B
16. Tyler Wotherspoon - 6.5C
17. Paul Byron - 7.0D
18. Akim Aliu - 6.5C
19. Ryan Howse 7.0D
20. Coda Gordon - 7.0D

I'd say these rankings are almost spot on.

[InfinityIggy]

Originally Posted by Deen

What about Karri Ramo? I know he is 26 and played in a few games for Tampa, But is he still a prospect that is worth looking at? He went 33-6 in 2010-2011 and even though his wins dropped in 2011-2012, his GAA still dropped and he played more minutes while facing more shots. Is he considered a bust?

Not at all a bust. He could probably play in the NHL at least as a backup right now.

The issue is that he is in the KHL, not the Flames system and so he goes pretty much unnoticed.

FWIW he said something along the lines of wanting to come here if he had a legitimate shot as being the #1 Goalie.

Maybe next year we will see a tandem of Irving/Ramo if Kipper is moved or retires.