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08-20-2012, 02:22 PM
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Shelley 6'3 230
Sestito 6'5 228
Grossman 6'4 230

Schenn 6'2 229
Thats a big dude for being 22. I guess Working out With Weber is helping. I hear alot about foot speed being an issue, but dudes gonna be a powerhouse.
Speed, ability to read the play in the defensive zone and confidence are Schenn's biggest weaknesses. He'll need to over come those issues in order to become a shutdown guy.

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08-20-2012, 02:29 PM
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Hopefully homer doesnt trade for a dman let the kids play if we sign a FA dont have a problem but the JBO has me worried not his cap hit which is high but what we give up only thing JBO could help Timmo out were he doesnt play alot of mins and get banged up .

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08-20-2012, 09:29 PM
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I guess extra weight does not equal truculence! Has there been any word of him wanting to lose it?
I bet they'll see how he does thru camp with the uptempo system, and give him an ultimatum if there's issues.

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08-20-2012, 10:44 PM
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I think Schenn is going to turn into Angry Coburn, just not "only in the playoffs", but every night.

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08-20-2012, 10:49 PM
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I think Schenn is going to turn into Angry Coburn, just not "only in the playoffs", but every night.
Schenn is not even close to Coburn in the skating department, unfortunately.

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08-20-2012, 10:53 PM
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#3 defencemen ideally if everything goes well. If he develops to his full potential, you have an Adam Foote player. As a former leaf, I don't know which Schenn wer're get because for one fact, he's terrible on the PK. He's slow to react to plays (doesn't read plays right) largely and gets beaten speed wise alot. I hope last year was just a player failing after signing a big contract.

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08-20-2012, 11:00 PM
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Hope we can be as happy with JvR.
Not to completely derail the discussion to JVR, but I thought I'd comment on him as I've probably seen him play a bit more then you.

A lot of people here (not all) were and still are down on JVR and are happy with this trade. I am happy with this trade as well but by no means does that mean I think JVR is a bust. We are currently stacked on offense and needed this move. We all know Schenn has struggled, but the whole brother factor and new motivation could be huge for him.

Back to JVR, he has shown signs of greatness. He is a bit soft (something that could change with experience) so making him your #1 center seems a bit strange to me. He is a winger and I don't see that move working out but who knows. The kid has some really good skills when he wants to use them, but at his best he uses his speed and puck protection.

25% of the time (and thats not a lot of time considering his injuries) he played like a man possessed and was unstoppable. If he can learn to harness that all the time, he can be a force. The injury bug may be an issue down the road but they might just be flukey too.

Schenn is a player that I am overly excited to see this season. Maybe it's because we haven't had a young guy like this (that actually is supposed to be a difference maker) in a long time. I am not getting my expectations very high for him right now, but I am looking forward to his debut and the Schenn Brothers to be on the ice at the same time.

So here's to both guys and both teams. May both JVR and Luke flourish in their new homes and may we meet in the conference finals!

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08-20-2012, 11:53 PM
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Not to completely derail the discussion to JVR, but I thought I'd comment on him as I've probably seen him play a bit more then you.

A lot of people here (not all) were and still are down on JVR and are happy with this trade. I am happy with this trade as well but by no means does that mean I think JVR is a bust. We are currently stacked on offense and needed this move. We all know Schenn has struggled, but the whole brother factor and new motivation could be huge for him.

Back to JVR, he has shown signs of greatness. He is a bit soft (something that could change with experience) so making him your #1 center seems a bit strange to me. He is a winger and I don't see that move working out but who knows. The kid has some really good skills when he wants to use them, but at his best he uses his speed and puck protection.

25% of the time (and thats not a lot of time considering his injuries) he played like a man possessed and was unstoppable. If he can learn to harness that all the time, he can be a force. The injury bug may be an issue down the road but they might just be flukey too.

Schenn is a player that I am overly excited to see this season. Maybe it's because we haven't had a young guy like this (that actually is supposed to be a difference maker) in a long time. I am not getting my expectations very high for him right now, but I am looking forward to his debut and the Schenn Brothers to be on the ice at the same time.

So here's to both guys and both teams. May both JVR and Luke flourish in their new homes and may we meet in the conference finals!
Didn't he play center in college? And 25% of the time he played like a man possessed? It was more closer to 5 or 10%..

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08-21-2012, 01:45 AM
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At worse I think Schenn will be comparable to Brendan Witt. Big, tough, blocks a ton of shots, hits like a truck, is a decent outlet passer. That's nothing to sneeze at if you can pencil him in as you #3-4 for the next 10-12 years. If his passing and shot improve through experience he will be all you can expect from a top 5 pick.
He has a cannon for a shot that just isn't accurate.

I am against trading any roster forwards until we see how Schenn progresses during the season.

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08-21-2012, 02:43 PM
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I don't put much stock into how Schenn looked on the Leafs last year. I was just watching highlights of the game where the Flyers put up 7 on the Leafs and every single defensemen looked like he belonged in the AHL. Jake "Orr"Gardiner was made to look stupid TWICE by Max freakin Talbot.

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Must have not gotten around to many others...or have very strange taste

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One shoulder to James neal's chin and he will be a legend

I like the Reghyr comparison though.

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I see Schenn tuning into a very solid number 2 physically imposing, shutdown d man.i think Regehr is the best comparison. Not much offense but a nightmare to play against night in night out.

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I really hope he is paired with Timonen. He was at his best on the Leafs when he was with Kaberle.

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I like the Reghyr comparison though.
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Potential? He was always compared to Adam Foote.

We can only dream....
I come in pieces. Elbows down you ruffians.

I do have 1 concern tho.

Seeing how the game has changed so much since the lockout.

Could a player actually turn into a Foote these days with the Footes skill set?

Won't a player need a bit of a different skill set these days to be like a Foote?

FTR, looking forward to Lukes first tilt with Dion, it could be epic.

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I guess extra weight does not equal truculence! Has there been any word of him wanting to lose it?
and yet people want Simmonds to put on weight and dont expect it to hamper his ability...

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I also don't see how he can be considered a bust just yet. Not every 22 year old D-man is Drew Doughty.

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I also don't see how he can be considered a bust just yet. Not every 22 year old D-man is Drew Doughty.
I don't see anyone calling him a bust

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As far as comparing Luke I've always heard Foote, but I'm a little more optamistic about him, not looking at him as a savior for our D, but I believe his physical style will be loved here in Philly, pairing him with Kimmo will help him with his positioning and stick use, good mentor for any young Dman Kimmo would be, and I get excited about the Pens games this year because of the whole B. Schenn/Crosby on going issue, I'd like to see what happens when someone goes after Braydon with Luke lurking on the ice, it has to be intensified being brothers and all

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As far as comparing Luke I've always heard Foote, but I'm a little more optamistic about him, not looking at him as a savior for our D, but I believe his physical style will be loved here in Philly, pairing him with Kimmo will help him with his positioning and stick use, good mentor for any young Dman Kimmo would be, and I get excited about the Pens games this year because of the whole B. Schenn/Crosby on going issue, I'd like to see what happens when someone goes after Braydon with Luke lurking on the ice, it has to be intensified being brothers and all
This begs the question, Is Kimmo Timonen Yoda?

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This begs the question, Is Kimmo Timonen Yoda?
Yes, pretty much.

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This begs the question, Is Kimmo Timonen Yoda?
Hahaha I just realized I typed that like Yoda, and yes Kimmo is really Yoda but with perfect hair

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Luke and Grossman can both prosper when paired with good offensive DMen. Grossman probably paired with Coburn, whose offense is improving, and Schenn probably will be with Timo who unofrtunately is showing his age.

We need Meszaros back fast, cuz I'll tell you one thing I see that Mesz has in common with Cobrun. I think both of those guys can benefit by being told to concentrate more on generating offense and having a reliable stay at home DMan covering up for them.

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Going forward, maybe the most important young player on our team is Luke Schenn. With our defense in its current state we need him to develop into a Shut Down dman who can log big minutes for us.

My question for the posters here is what player currently or in the past represents Luke Schenn's potential.

Right now i see him as a Brooks Orpik type of guy, with a bit more mobility and a bit more physical.


But what can he develop into? What is his ceiling?
Schenn is not that mobile. When you watch him on the ice, he looks like he's moving at a different pace as the rest of the action on the ice. Maybe if he slims down he can get back to "slow but still effective" catgory but he's basically so slow that he compromises his own ability to make plays under pressure, which magnifies how ineffective his puckhandling and decision making can be, which leads to a decrease in confidence and increasingly garbage play.

I think he can be a bit like Luke Richardson if he really simplifies his game and focuses in on a particular role and play within his limitations. Take the body, rely on the other defenseman to corral loose pucks, funnel all pucks to the other side for breakouts, don't press the offense, etc.

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