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08-28-2012, 03:52 PM
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Rank Future Fantasy Value of 2012 Drafted D-Men

Please rank the following defensemen taken in the 1st round of the 2012 draft in terms of their future fantasy value

Ryan Murray
Griffin Reinhart
Morgan Rielly
Hampus Lindholm
Matt Dumba
Derrick Pouliot
Jacob Trouba
Slater Koekkoek
Cody Ceci
Olli Maatta

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Rielly
Dumba
Lindholm
Murray
Reinhart
Maatta
Pouliot
Koekkoek
Ceci
Trouba

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Dumba
Murray
Reinhart
Jankowski
Trouba
Rielly
Ceci
Glennie
Pouliot
Maatta
Lindholm
Koekkoek

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Please rank the following defensemen taken in the 1st round of the 2012 draft in terms of their future fantasy value

Ryan Murray
Griffin Reinhart
Morgan Rielly
Hampus Lindholm
Matt Dumba
Derrick Pouliot
Jacob Trouba
Slater Koekkoek
Cody Ceci
Olli Maatta
Depends on league cats, but in pure points I would say:

Rielly
Pouliot
Dumba
Murray
Ceci
Maatta
Lindholm
Koekkoek
Reinhart
Trouba

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Rielly
Dumba
Pouliot
Murray
Lindholm
Ceci
Reinhart
Koekkoek
Trouba

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Dumba
Murray
Reinhart
Jankowski
Trouba
Rielly
Ceci
Glennie
Pouliot
Maatta
Lindholm
Koekkoek
The Jank: now a top D-men

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08-28-2012, 06:33 PM
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Quick question, what does everyone see in Koekkoek to put him in the bottom of the list consistently?

EDIT: It has been reported by other scouts, if he didn't have season ending surgery he would have been ranked up there with Rielly, Reinhart, Dumba.

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Quick question, what does everyone see in Koekkoek to put him in the bottom of the list consistently?

EDIT: It has been reported by other scouts, if he didn't have season ending surgery he could have been ranked up there with Rielly, Reinhart, Dumba.
fyp, nothings for certain.

I don't believe in ranking a draft class right after they got drafted. Don't take the ranking seriously until next year, when we get to see how all the prospects progressed and regressed.

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fyp, nothings for certain.

I don't believe in ranking a draft class right after they got drafted. Don't take the ranking seriously until next year, when we get to see how all the prospects progressed and regressed.
Fair enough. I am a huge TB fan so I was wondering on what everyone here sees.

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Rielly
Dumba
Pouliot
Murray
Lindholm
Ceci
Reinhart
Maatta
Koekkoek
Trouba

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Quick question, what does everyone see in Koekkoek to put him in the bottom of the list consistently?

EDIT: It has been reported by other scouts, if he didn't have season ending surgery he would have been ranked up there with Rielly, Reinhart, Dumba.
I didn't really like what Ive seen from him when he was healthy. Not a big fan and didn't think he was worth a top 10 pick. Top 15 would be pushing it in my opinion. Two guys I had over him were Maatta and Finn. Maatta was drafted in the 20's and Finn 32. I guess Tampa saw something in him that I didn't.

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What about Mike Matheson?

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What is Hampus Lindholm's fantasy upside? What current or past D-man would you say is a realistic comparison as to what he can become?

What is Griffin Reinhart's fantasy upside? What current or past D-man would you say is a realistic comparison as to what he can become?

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What about Mike Matheson?
Project. Not really close to these guys in terms of development. Maybe in a couple years he will be better then some of these guys.

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What is Hampus Lindholm's fantasy upside? What current or past D-man would you say is a realistic comparison as to what he can become?

What is Griffin Reinhart's fantasy upside? What current or past D-man would you say is a realistic comparison as to what he can become?
He seems like a Jake Gardiner type but might be faster (only say that cause apparently Lindholm is faster than Fowler) I'd say realistically he could hit 35

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Ceci is low on many estimates, he could turn out the best of them, in my top3.

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He seems like a Jake Gardiner type but might be faster (only say that cause apparently Lindholm is faster than Fowler) I'd say realistically he could hit 35
Really? Gardiner is one of the best skaters I've ever seen. I didn't think Lindholm was that fast. I heard he was good but that is just excellent if he's a better skater than Fowler and would certainly put him top 3 in the draft in terms of skating a long with Rielly and Yakupov.

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Fantasy Value:
1. Rielly
2. Murray
3. Dumba
4. Pouliot
5. Lindholm
6. Ceci
7. Maatta
8. Reinhart
9. Trouba
10. Koekkoek

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Ceci is low on many estimates, he could turn out the best of them, in my top3.
Frankly, anyone of them could end up being the best. It's just that the odds are way higher for Murray, Dumba and Rielly.

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The earliest one of these I would pick in a fantasy draft would be Murray since its pretty much a given he'll be in the NHL. If we're going by pure peak potential...

Rielly
Ceci
Dumba (ahead of Pouliot due to more goals)
Pouliot
Lindholm
Murray
Koekkoek
Maatta
Trouba
Reinhart

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Really? Gardiner is one of the best skaters I've ever seen. I didn't think Lindholm was that fast. I heard he was good but that is just excellent if he's a better skater than Fowler and would certainly put him top 3 in the draft in terms of skating a long with Rielly and Yakupov.


Not the best example as he didn't have much time to accelerate. In the scrimmages he was skating circles around everyone else.

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Rielly
Lindholm
Ceci
Koekkoek
Dumba
Murray
Pouliot
Reinhart
Trouba
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He seems like a Jake Gardiner type but might be faster (only say that cause apparently Lindholm is faster than Fowler) I'd say realistically he could hit 35
Lindholm tops out at 35 points per year, in his prime?

That's fine if that's the case I'm just asking but I assume that means he's more of a two way guy then?

What about Reinhart's offensive upside? How much better is it than Murray's or even Lindholm's?

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Dumba
Rielly
Reinhart
Murray
Ceci
Lindholm
Maata
Trouba
Koekkoek
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Ceci is low on many estimates, he could turn out the best of them, in my top3.
I was watching the Canada vs Russia series and was not impressed with Ceci. His skating was not something to be impressed about. He also did not seem to be on the same page as Dumba, Murray or Rielly

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