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08-28-2012, 10:54 PM
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I don't get how this helps anyone. More than half the teams will struggle to get below the cap, while players will end up being bought out or buried in the minors.

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stupid question but what is a rollback? thank you

In the last CBA negotiations, the NHLPA proposed a one-time rollback of 24% of existing salaries across the board, and the owners insisted that this remain as part of the new deal.

Essentially, a rollback is taking an existing contract and reducing it as per a collectively-bargained agreement to do so. In real terms, a player with an SPC of $1,000,000 p.a. saw his contract reduced to $760,000 p.a.

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Oil get Khabby off the payroll.

If teams get amnesty on their buyouts, 1.5M from Sourey is off the books too. That'd put the team under the cap.

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08-28-2012, 11:02 PM
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08-28-2012, 11:03 PM
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A solution would be to rollback just a select number of contracts per team. I vote for a process of selection involving dogs and who ever loses to them gets his paycheck chopped.

Seriously I don't see why the PA would be against a small amount of overblown contracts being bought out and the players waived. That would just mean more ice time for more deserving players, what's wrong with that?

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Stupid question time: instead of forcing teams and players to go through financial hoops to make a suddenly lowered cap for this season, why not just play this year with this year's number and let the next CBA/cap kick in next year?

I have a feeling the answer is going to mostly be about getting the players to give back more money in the short term to the owners through escrow or whatever else...

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A solution would be to rollback just a select number of contracts per team. I vote for a process of selection involving dogs and who ever loses to them gets his paycheck chopped.

Seriously I don't see why the PA would be against a small amount of overblown contracts being bought out and the players waived. That would just mean more ice time for more deserving players, what's wrong with that?
The "undeserving" players are part of the union as well.

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Way to early to speculate as to whether or not the cap would go down that much.

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Greg Sherman would be laughing so hard, I can already imagine it.
So would I. Would finally make guys like seanlinden realise that Avs fans were actually telling the truth when we said this was the reason Sherman was not throwing money around at guys like Leino

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The "undeserving" players are part of the union as well.
No for long I hope, because I don't think fans like to pay to watch those undeserving players play.

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I believe after the last CBA, players had a 24% salary rollback. A 24% decrease in their total salary is what I think it was.
Cant players reject to play then ?

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lets make a list of teams that would be screwed and teams that would benefit.

Ill start it off.

Canucks = screwed (no way they can resign guys like edler AND burrows with that kind of cap).

Even if we dump ballard

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No for long I hope, because I don't think fans like to pay to watch those undeserving players play.
That doesn't mean the union won't fight for them.

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That would really set up the Coyotes!

16 teams currently over $58Mil, while the Coyotes are sitting at $44.8Mil (but still need to sign Doan).

I wonder if Snow will take advantage?

So is it a soft cap? Is the penalty of going over based only on revenue sharing? I guess these and other questions will be answer in the next episode in the CBA negotiations!

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Cant players reject to play then ?
I suppose they could strike. The more likely option is that the PA just doesn't agree to that CBA and the owners lock the players out.

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That doesn't mean the union won't fight for them.
You don't think public opinion should be weighted by the player's union? It's sad to say but the more reasonable the owners' offers are going to look as reported by the media the more the pressure is going to be on the players and not the other way around. I would be pretty happy if the Habs could get rid of Gomez' contract for free. I'm sure there are other cases around the league as well and I'm not sure it would be wise for the union to fight for those.

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Cant players reject to play then ?
Or they can do what the Leaf's players did after the last strike and have a work slow-down.

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So, either there will be a lot of 1 way contracts in the 'A', or a buy out amnesty, where a player gets free money and becomes a free agent searching for a new contract while the team's cap will not be affective . Or is the league trying to make the KHL a better league?

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Wouldn't be a big deal for the Leafs. Just bury Lombardi in the minors.
Nope, send him to Phoenix for a 7th.

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Oil get Khabby off the payroll.

If teams get amnesty on their buyouts, 1.5M from Sourey is off the books too. That'd put the team under the cap.
I think the amnesty would only be for the contracts bought out this time around and not ones that have already happened

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. The cap for 2012-13 - projected to be $70.2 million under the existing CBA - would be cut to a fixed $58 million underthelatestproposal.

That number would rise to a fixed $60 million in 2013-14and then to a fixed $62 million the following year.

Projected cap numbers for the final three years of the deal include: $64.2 million in 2015-16, $67.6 million in 2016-17and $71.1million in 2017-18.
I actually really like this proposal. It seems less insane.

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