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Under New Proposal CAP to drop to 58M

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08-28-2012, 11:41 PM
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It's like the NHL wants to make it impossible for the GMs to do their job.

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08-28-2012, 11:41 PM
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Let's see. For Vancouver we do the following:
  1. Trade Luongo for anything that does not include salary.
  2. Waive Alberts, Ebbett and Volpatti.
  3. Trade one of Raymond and/or Ballard, again for little to no salary.
  4. If any of the aforementioned players cannot be traded under those circumstances, waive them.
  5. Next year use most of Malhotra's salary to resign Edler.
  6. Use the additional two million cap increase to resign Burrows.
  7. Call up Schroeder and pray he works out.
  8. Hope Higgins and Lapierre resign at their current salaries or for pennies of an increase.

Wow are we screwed over.

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08-28-2012, 11:49 PM
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Next we will find out LTIR now counts against the cap, you know, just to screw over Boston and Philadelphia more then they would be in this scenario.

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08-28-2012, 11:50 PM
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Let's see. For Vancouver we do the following:
  1. Trade Luongo for anything that does not include salary.
  2. Waive Alberts, Ebbett and Volpatti.
  3. Trade one of Raymond and/or Ballard, again for little to no salary.
  4. If any of the aforementioned players cannot be traded under those circumstances, waive them.
  5. Next year use most of Malhotra's salary to resign Edler.
  6. Use the additional two million cap increase to resign Burrows.
  7. Call up Schroeder and pray he works out.
  8. Hope Higgins and Lapierre resign at their current salaries or for pennies of an increase.

Wow are we screwed over.
yup lol

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08-28-2012, 11:53 PM
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If the Bruins can't rid themselves of Thomas' $5 million they are in trouble if this happens.

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08-29-2012, 12:02 AM
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08-29-2012, 12:11 AM
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08-29-2012, 12:13 AM
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Come on. It's the league's 2nd offer. Stop acting like it's reality because even the owners don't believe it - or even want it. This offer would cause chaos for the league's earners and not really help the strapped teams who are in no position to take on the many high-priced players that would have to be shipped off. Both sides know it.

There is an obvious end point, this is just the dance to get there. The cap will be basically 50/50, $61m-$64m with the floor reduced, with limits on contract length and maybe some out-clause for existing bad contracts plus other chip-dealing slightly favoring the poorer teams favored by Bettman in his mis-guided growth strategy.

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08-29-2012, 12:23 AM
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Kings are currently at ~$62 million. A little bit over but not impossible. Richardson can be buried in the minors, and one of the ~$3 million contracts, such as Stoll, Penner, Gagne, Scuderi or Williams could be traded for something of value.

Definitely not ideal, but the core would still be kept intact.

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08-29-2012, 12:28 AM
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Pens are close. Maybe they deal Martin and bring in a cheaper Dman.

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stupid question but what is a rollback? thank you

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The Blues would be tight even with McDonald coming off the books considering Pietrangelo and Shattenkirk will need new deals.

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You can't let it get up to 70M, sign players, then ask to get it back to 58. Come on, now. The owners brought in a low low low ball proposal. This is just silly.

Clean it up and don't miss any time this season, NHL. You worked so hard to bring the game back. Don't mess this up.

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08-29-2012, 12:48 AM
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I'm sure the NHLPA will come back with a slightly higher fixed cap.

Maybe they come back at 64M and they settle at about 62M, that would be much more doable for a lot of teams.

But really we'd need a 5-10% rollback to prevent a lot of teams losing assets for nothing.

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You can't let it get up to 70M, sign players, then ask to get it back to 58. Come on, now. The owners brought in a low low low ball proposal. This is just silly.

Clean it up and don't miss any time this season, NHL. You worked so hard to bring the game back. Don't mess this up.
I think it's just negotiating. I bet they settle around 64-65M for the first year with a slower escalation each year, or maybe a cap freeze once it hits 70M after a few years.

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As a Ducks fan I hope to **** this is goes through.


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You can't let it get up to 70M, sign players, then ask to get it back to 58. Come on, now. The owners brought in a low low low ball proposal. This is just silly.
This.
The league can't put the majorty of the franchises in cap hell. There will either be an old cap or some formula where contracts under the old CBA count for a lower percentage against the cap.

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08-29-2012, 12:52 AM
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The league can't put the majorty of the franchises in cap hell. There will either be an old cap or some formula where contracts under the old CBA count for a lower percentage against the cap.
I think they'll have to do this. Players still get their money, but their cap hit is a percentage lower for the first few years of the new CBA.

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08-29-2012, 12:56 AM
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Wow, if this happens, the Sabres would be in Troublllllllllle. Yikes.

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Calm down. It's still in the early stages and everything is still negotiable. This is a great step, and is much closer than they were before. There's 3 more weeks to go, don't expect this to be the actual numbers.

Fact is that the cap had to go down anyways. If the cap goes down, so will player's salary. That's why guys like Weber decided to cash in instead of wait until next year. A few million higher and it will work for everyone and it's getting pretty damn close. I'd say.

Pretty much all the "over the cap" teams have dead weight cap. Sure, a few players will be waived and probably out of the NHL, but unfortunately it'll be the minority.


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The Canucks are fine. We move Luongo and stick with what we have as a team.

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Obviously this means teams will get a one time buyout that doesn't count against the cap.

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Haha dumb ****ing Wild management hahahaha

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cut the cap, kill the players in escrow....yep real fair proposal Gary.

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The league can't put the majorty of the franchises in cap hell. There will either be an old cap or some formula where contracts under the old CBA count for a lower percentage against the cap.
This. If the cap drops by 12.7 million, almost 20%, then existing contracts, even prior to July 1st only, should count for that much less. Players keep their full paycheques, the majority of teams avoid cap hell, and the ridiculous 58 million seems a little less ridiculous.

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