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08-29-2012, 03:23 PM
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RT @michaelgrange: Fehr -- new definition of HRR has more #NHL costs taken out of it #CBA

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Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl
Donald Fehr said the Union intends to respond to the owners' proposal from yesterday with counter that could come as early as tomorrow.

Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl
Fehr on why owners MAY want to redefine HRR ,'before you divide up the pie,need to remove some of what is included in the pie' #TSN

Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl
Fehr, 'our sources and structure of revenue sharing are quite different' #TSN

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So, for those of us who don't know the ins-and-outs of all this, what's going on? Are we any closer to a deal?

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So, for those of us who don't know the ins-and-outs of all this, what's going on? Are we any closer to a deal?
Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a deal before September 15th

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08-29-2012, 03:52 PM
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So, for those of us who don't know the ins-and-outs of all this, what's going on? Are we any closer to a deal?
i think were alot closer to a deal, then we were before.

Fehr wants to see the HRR broken down club by club instead of what they saw as a NHL whole.

krish, it seems the HRR is now the main focus.

sounds like the rev split is decided. i could be wrong on that issue.


also NHL wants 6 years NHL PA 5

so will continue on the merry go ride

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08-29-2012, 03:54 PM
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i think were alot closer to a deal, then we were before.

Fehr wants to see the HRR broken down club by club instead of what they saw as a NHL whole.

krish, it seems the HRR is now the main focus.

sounds like the rev split is decided. i could be wrong on that issue.


also NHL wants 6 years NHL PA 5

so will continue on the merry go ride
the NHLPA wants to change the HRR and the NHLPA wants to keep it the same, but the NHLPA wants to see the financials of each team under the new HRR

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08-29-2012, 03:57 PM
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the NHLPA wants to change the HRR and the NHLPA wants to keep it the same, but the NHLPA wants to see the financials of each team under the new HRR
does the nhl finally show them club by club.


to mee this is like a poker game.

each have there cards, were on the Turn, and hopefully tomorrow on the river card.

lets have a winner or a deal

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08-29-2012, 04:40 PM
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How are all these teams supposed to get under the cap?

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How are all these teams supposed to get under the cap?
No idea unless there's a rollback, not in salary, but cap hits

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So is everybody just ignoring the elephant in the room or what? I guarantee it's the turd franchises like Phoenix, Dallas, and the Islanders pushing hard for a lower cap with no salary rollbacks just to avoid having to go over the floor. When are the other owners just going to come out say it that the league needs to contract or send some of the teams north of the border to more prominent hockey markets? I would be more than happy seeing 10+ teams in Canadian markets if it meant the league not having to support failed sun belt teams. It's almost mind boggling with how league revenue has grown in the past ten years to propose that low of a cap, especially with no rollbacks.

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08-29-2012, 05:10 PM
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They can push all they want.. If there's a majority vote for a proposal and the majority wins, they have to deal with it.

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08-29-2012, 05:36 PM
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They can push all they want.. If there's a majority vote for a proposal and the majority wins, they have to deal with it.
Kish, I had a chance to see both press conferences, they are on nhl.com

gary bettman still sounds like he normally does, a pile of crap.


however Fehr's conference, was more insightful.

the highlight was he stated, that he is getting the club by club info tonight at some time reguarding the HRR.

so he will finally be able to see and make a make the needed modifications prior to submitting there counter proposal which i hope is tomorrow, he said at worst friday.

Fehr really broke it all down and did a nice job explaning.

I think a deal is going to happen, but it will be next week.

that is my overall gut.

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http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/videodetail

tim, from the SNY studios gave his overall thoughts on todays events

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08-29-2012, 06:17 PM
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Kish, I had a chance to see both press conferences, they are on nhl.com

gary bettman still sounds like he normally does, a pile of crap.


however Fehr's conference, was more insightful.

the highlight was he stated, that he is getting the club by club info tonight at some time reguarding the HRR.

so he will finally be able to see and make a make the needed modifications prior to submitting there counter proposal which i hope is tomorrow, he said at worst friday.

Fehr really broke it all down and did a nice job explaning.

I think a deal is going to happen, but it will be next week.

that is my overall gut.
Bettman got flustered by the question about the sense of entitlement..

I've said for the past few years that the problem with bettman when he talks is that his speeches are impersonal and come off like they are lectures.. He refuses to make eye contact and rushes through everything too quickly..

Both sides look like they are not getting much sleep


Fehr usually gives better interviews since he goes more into the details than bettman does, which a lot of people like. And he is a better public speaker overall..

I'm hoping we hear their counter proposal tomorrow afternoon

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08-29-2012, 06:19 PM
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http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/videodetail

tim, from the SNY studios gave his overall thoughts on todays events
http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/video...S8Vml_U0VKPqDA

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08-29-2012, 06:24 PM
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Thanks, everytime im on CSN, the page loads a crap load of social media stuff, the page sometimes takes a few more moments to load.

when i saw tim i just copy and pasted.

good stuff

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Anyone know when Transformers: Fall of Cybertron is coming out or heard anything about it? I can't find anything anywhere.

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Anyone know when Transformers: Fall of Cybertron is coming out or heard anything about it? I can't find anything anywhere.
Waiting to get rid of the ad, just like me?

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Dont know about the ad... but i downloaded the demo on xbox. pretty fun. dont recall a release date though... gotta be soon if a demo is out

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One thing I want to know:

What is it that's hovering around in the upper left hand corner of every room Bettman is in that he has to constantly stare at it?

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Probably a Transformer Ad.

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One thing I want to know:

What is it that's hovering around in the upper left hand corner of every room Bettman is in that he has to constantly stare at it?
This is why his speeches come off as impersonal.. He makes 0 eye contact.. It's always hilarious how bad he tries to avoid eye contact

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08-30-2012, 06:28 AM
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One thing I want to know:

What is it that's hovering around in the upper left hand corner of every room Bettman is in that he has to constantly stare at it?
It means he is lying. Watch the movie called THE NEGOITATOR sam jackson kevin spacey. sam actually describes how lying works, gary pretty much emulates that description.

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Looks like no meetings today and they will pick it up tomorrow

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Looks like no meetings today and they will pick it up tomorrow
Or Monday...

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