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08-30-2012, 04:09 PM
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Or Monday...
Taken from lady Stanley from the business board:

News from tweets headlines I've seen today:

NHLPA plans to present counter proposal on Friday.

Daly thinks that negotiations could continue through weekend (IOW Saturday, Sunday, Monday meetings).

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08-30-2012, 04:25 PM
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Owners crying poor but they continue to hand out the big contracts.

OILERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH EBERLE ON SIX-YEAR EXTENSION

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=404173

6yrs/36 million

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Owners crying poor but they continue to hand out the big contracts.

OILERS AGREE TO TERMS WITH EBERLE ON SIX-YEAR EXTENSION

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=404173

6yrs/36 million
To be fair, not all owners are crying poor; just the ones that can't sustain their franchise competitively minus Toronto.

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08-31-2012, 09:34 AM
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To be fair, not all owners are crying poor; just the ones that can't sustain their franchise competitively minus Toronto.
The point still stands that if this current CBA is so bad why are so many teams jumping to re-sign their guys a year early before the new CBA goes into effect?

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08-31-2012, 09:48 AM
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Because some teams want to lock their core up for more than the 5 years the NHL suggested for the cap of years on a contract

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The point still stands that if this current CBA is so bad why are so many teams jumping to re-sign their guys a year early before the new CBA goes into effect?
I think the idea is that the richer teams (Philly, Original Six Teams, etc) don't want the not-so-right teams (Phoenix, NYI, etc) to fold because of financial problems, which would be bad for the league as a whole. That being said, the rich teams that do in fact like the CBA I'm sure want to take advantage of it as it stands now, and the not-so-rich teams probably do too so they can reap the benefits they DO like of the current CBA before a new one is put in place (i.e. Eberle's long and IMO reasonable deal).

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08-31-2012, 12:38 PM
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Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl
The NHLPA negotiating team has arrived for today's meeting. Henrik Zetterberg and Ron Hainsey are the players in attendance.

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08-31-2012, 01:12 PM
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I like the game but if they lockout i really will not care. The NFL season has started and i have an active social life. If the NHL locks out they will lose all those new casual fans that have took interest within the last couple of years. So they can go ahead and play with that fire. With the other mainstream sports starting up nobody will care if the NHL is locked out but hardcore hockey fans.

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The CBA talks are done for today. They lasted approximately an hour and 45 minutes.

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I like the game but if they lockout i really will not care. The NFL season has started and i have an active social life. If the NHL locks out they will lose all those new casual fans that have took interest within the last couple of years. So they can go ahead and play with that fire. With the other mainstream sports starting up nobody will care if the NHL is locked out but hardcore hockey fans.
I as well have a social life and like other sports, but it'll kill me. I actually wasn't a football fan at all until the 2004 lockout, and now I religiously watch the Eagles, Pitt football (my alumni, though we're awful) and SEC football. And I am forced to watch the Steelers because I live in Pittsburgh and have working eyeballs.

But still, a lockout will kill me. I love football the way I love my best friends, I love pro hockey the way you love a soulmate.

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08-31-2012, 02:27 PM
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@michaelgrange: Fehr -- The players don't feel it's appropriate to see an absolute reduction in player salaries #NHL #NHLPA

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08-31-2012, 02:28 PM
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Fehr: PA proposed changes to 4th year of their initial proposal.

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Fehr: NHLPA proposal made today "did not bear fruit."

Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
Don Fehr: "the proposal we made today was not accepted."

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08-31-2012, 02:29 PM
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Fehr: NHL will not respond to proposals that don't include salary cuts. "At this point, the talks are recessed."

Oh god

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Don Fehr: "at this point the talks are off."

Not good at all

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talks are off now,

were scrwed, i hope they work during the weekend or continue to work, but its a see saw back and forth and this season is looking like it will be delayed

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Fehr clarifies owners elected recess of #CBA talks. Says #nhlpa ready to resume.

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08-31-2012, 02:55 PM
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Bettman: what started as a promising week, ends in disappointment

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Bettman: NHLPA did not offer, in his view, a counter-proposal.

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Bettman: revenue sharing talk is a distraction. NHL focused on what they pay out.

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Bettman: when either of us has something to say, we'll pick up the phone.

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Bettman basically scoffs at NHLPA idea of 3-year plus one term CBA. Says NHL wants more. Have proposed 6. @SBJSBD

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Bettman says #nhlpa not moving at all on position of economics #nhl

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Bettman says characterization of NHL reccessing CBA talks is "inaccurate and unfair."

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Bettman: NHLPA "stonewalled" and did not move off latest proposal.


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08-31-2012, 03:12 PM
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Fehr: Owners said if players not willing to talk about an immediate reduction in salary than they're not willing to talk about latest offer.

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08-31-2012, 03:41 PM
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Owners, you want to find the real problem for the high player salaries? Look to your GMs.

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08-31-2012, 04:08 PM
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I as well have a social life and like other sports, but it'll kill me. I actually wasn't a football fan at all until the 2004 lockout, and now I religiously watch the Eagles, Pitt football (my alumni, though we're awful) and SEC football. And I am forced to watch the Steelers because I live in Pittsburgh and have working eyeballs.

But still, a lockout will kill me. I love football the way I love my best friends, I love pro hockey the way you love a soulmate.
I understand. The last lockout has just made me feel like whatever. Life goes on. The league has some real structural problems that need to be fixed. They are killing the game by having these lockouts.

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08-31-2012, 04:22 PM
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LOCKOUT COMING ...

Thats when theses to greedy sides will get down to some serious talk when no one is making money or getting paid.Right now both sides are trying to screw each other either side cares about the fans..

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It is a shame it has come down to this. But in reality we all knew(or should have) this was coming. This has the writing of a lost season all over again where the only ones who lose are "us" the fans. For me, it looks like I will be spending $ on things like the OHL,QMJHL, and the WHL. Yes I love my football but the game of hockey has been a big part of my life as far as hobbies go, and I cannot stand bass fishing in the winter! Oh well let's keep our fingers crossed and maybe we get lucky and these two knuckleheads can get their act together and come to a agreement.

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Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
Bettman: what started as a promising week, ends in disappointment

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
Bettman: NHLPA did not offer, in his view, a counter-proposal.

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
Bettman: revenue sharing talk is a distraction. NHL focused on what they pay out.

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
Bettman: when either of us has something to say, we'll pick up the phone.

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
Bettman basically scoffs at NHLPA idea of 3-year plus one term CBA. Says NHL wants more. Have proposed 6. @SBJSBD

Rob Rossi ‏@RobRossi_Trib
Bettman says #nhlpa not moving at all on position of economics #nhl

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
Bettman says characterization of NHL reccessing CBA talks is "inaccurate and unfair."

Chris Botta ‏@ChrisBottaNHL
Bettman: NHLPA "stonewalled" and did not move off latest proposal.
Owners poisoned the well with those absurd initial proposals. The NHLPA is in an almost impossible position: they probably recognize that their share is going to come down a bit, but as soon as they make a proposal that includes any reduction, the owners lose any incentive to move at all of their demands re: the split.

Asking the players to accept both a sharp reduction in their share of HRR and the owner's truncated version of HRR doesn't seem like a good-faith offer, to be honest.

This is 90/10 on the owners--and I'm not even sure whether I could tell you what I'm blaming the players for. I guess they are waiting for a serious proposal to respond to seriously--but I'm afraid it might be a while.

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08-31-2012, 07:16 PM
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The latest proposal by the NHL was a serious proposal. The NHLPA ignored it and re-presented their original proposal with a few tiny changes

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