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09-04-2012, 03:01 PM
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Madden is another Bergevin's good buddy. He played for the Hawks, didn't he ?

So, Bergevin knows him and probably is judging that he can be a good scout.

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09-04-2012, 03:03 PM
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I'm getting a little worried about creating a "too many cooks in the kitchen" type of scenario, but our scouting staff was understaffed by Gauthier.
I'd say it's more like having too many Marmitons. Which you can't.

Dudley and Timmins are both the head scouts for their respective elements. Everybody else files reports, don't take decisions.

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09-04-2012, 03:06 PM
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is that the john madden that took a puck to the face playing for florida last playoffs, or is my memory playing dirty, dirty tricks on me again?

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09-04-2012, 03:09 PM
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I'd say it's more like having too many Marmitons. Which you can't.

Dudley and Timmins are both the head scouts for their respective elements. Everybody else files reports, don't take decisions.
Scouts always fight for their favourite prospects. They convince the head scout to see their favourite prospects and fight for their guys on the draft floor. They don't make decisions, but they certainly advise.

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09-04-2012, 03:16 PM
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is that the john madden that took a puck to the face playing for florida last playoffs, or is my memory playing dirty, dirty tricks on me again?
he colide with Kopecky. (his own teammate)

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09-04-2012, 03:26 PM
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I'm tempted to say they'd have been better off hiring him to play 4th line C instead of Nokialainen.

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Scouts always fight for their favourite prospects. They convince the head scout to see their favourite prospects and fight for their guys on the draft floor. They don't make decisions, but they certainly advise.
Off course they do.

They always will.

Yet, it's a 1-man decision. 1 cook, a team of marmiton. As it should be.

Start to worry if you see a Prospect Selection Committee.

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09-04-2012, 03:45 PM
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Talk about a specific job task. Don't bother scouting anyone else, just the FA's, John.
You know what? We have missed out on the good NCAA free agents with Philly scooping all of em.. and now Tampa got Brown. We have B.Nash but could use some better NCAA FAs.

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Hmm, I don't think we can judge a player's scouting ability based on the way he played the game. It's great that management is expanding the scouting team, but we really won't know what Madden will bring us until players actually get drafted or signed.

We've seen good players fail in management positions before. I'm not saying Madden will fail, but we really have nothing to judge him on if it's his first gig. The intentions are definitely good, we'll see how it plays out.
True but he has a good head for the game and i think that's good attribute to have from the start. But you are correct in saying that this doesn't mean that he will be successful.

I guess we'll really be able to judge his body of work in a couple of years.

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Talk about a specific job task. Don't bother scouting anyone else, just the FA's, John.
I don't see the problem, we already have scouts for 18 year-old that are going the NCAA route and that we could draft, he will look the undrafted 20+ year-old already playing in the NCAA.

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Good hire, this team is getting it together.

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I think its a good idea just for the image side. These kids will see Madden scouting their games and will have the chance to talk to a guy who had a nice career in the NHL which is probably a bonus when trying to convince them to join the Habs instead of other teams

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Must be at some point this summer.

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Must be at some point this summer.
Wow that was quick!

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I think this is a very interesting hire especially considering he'll be scouting specifically UFA NCAA prospects. Madden seems like a smart player (won a Selke) and was an UFA NCAA prospect signing himself who went on to have an amazing career.

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I think this is a very interesting hire especially considering he'll be scouting specifically UFA NCAA prospects. Madden seems like a smart player (won a Selke) and was an UFA NCAA prospect signing himself who went on to have an amazing career.
Maybe convince players to sign with us .

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I expected a lot of changes, but I'm surprised at the amount of hires by Bergevin. What's funny is that most of these players probably would have never signed here as players!!!!

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I'm getting a little worried about creating a "too many cooks in the kitchen" type of scenario, but our scouting staff was understaffed by Gauthier.



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One thing is for sure: Bergevin and co will know about everything hockey in North America.

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Loving the beefed up scouting staff.

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09-04-2012, 10:52 PM
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he colide with Kopecky. (his own teammate)

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riiiiiiiiiight...

weird that not 4 months ago he was still playing

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