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09-02-2012, 01:46 PM
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This type of trade was made for internet forums.

Personally, I don't think the trade was good or bad. It just was. Scott was insurance that we didn't end up needing. A 5th round pick could be something, but often isn't.

In other words, why does anyone care?

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09-02-2012, 02:08 PM
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I didn't really get the point of the trade when it was made, and Scott didn't really do anything for us.

We needed some extra depth on defense at the time for insurance, and maybe another forward. I know that the prices at the time were crazy (Gaustad going for a 1st rounder), but it seemed to be trade for the sake of it.

Oh well, while the 5th rounder would of been nice to have, it's not a big deal.

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09-02-2012, 02:14 PM
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I thought it was stupid and unnecessary when the trade was made, and my feeling hasn't changed.

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09-02-2012, 05:11 PM
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It was a complete waste--Scott wasn't in good enough shape to play Tortorella's system regularly and never gained an once of trust from the coaching staff. Even when there was a need to play someone on the 4th line during the playoffs, he didn't dress.

The 5th round pick was no biggie, but Sather just threw it away.

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09-02-2012, 07:53 PM
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Not really. Wasted a pick on a worthless rental.
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I don't mind the trade. 5th rounders grow on trees

John Scotts play hockey like trees

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09-02-2012, 08:26 PM
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not a trade worth getting worked up over but doesn't see how in anyway it could be looked at as 'good'...

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09-03-2012, 10:34 PM
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How is this even a question? No.

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09-04-2012, 07:28 AM
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I think he was brought in because the Rangers had little to no depth and he was cheap. He could play defense or offense and he would keep teams honest if he played.

I also believe that Rupp was more injured than we have all been led to believe and that they were honestly thinking about shutting him down for a week or 2 to allow him to heal up but Mike wanted no part of it.

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09-04-2012, 12:12 PM
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My expectations was that he'd do some of the heavy lifting and keep guys like Prust from having to fight down the stretch. That didn't happen, so it was essentially a draft pick thrown away.

I'd have happily parted with another pick or something more valuable to have acquired a defenseman with at least a Bickel skill level. 3 very long series is a big ask for 5 d-men. That's where help was really needed when it counted.

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09-04-2012, 04:58 PM
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I think he was brought in because the Rangers had little to no depth and he was cheap. He could play defense or offense and he would keep teams honest if he played.

I also believe that Rupp was more injured than we have all been led to believe and that they were honestly thinking about shutting him down for a week or 2 to allow him to heal up but Mike wanted no part of it.
The problem with "could" is that in reality Scott could not--he was not in good enough shape when he came here to be able to play at the level Tortorella expected his players to be able to play.

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09-04-2012, 10:14 PM
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The problem with "could" is that in reality Scott could not--he was not in good enough shape when he came here to be able to play at the level Tortorella expected his players to be able to play.
Not to mention the fact that he is useless outside of his ability to fight. Who cares if he can play both forward and defense, he's a liability either way.

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09-04-2012, 10:30 PM
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Not to mention the fact that he is useless outside of his ability to fight. Who cares if he can play both forward and defense, he's a liability either way.
More of a liability that putting Stu in either of those spots for about 3 minutes a game? (just playing devil's advocate haha)

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09-04-2012, 11:13 PM
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More of a liability that putting Stu in either of those spots for about 3 minutes a game? (just playing devil's advocate haha)
Never saw during the season, even in pre-season, that Bickel wasn't in shape. The point is why waste an asset (no matter how insignificant) if the player you're trading for is never going to fit in. Scott played a total of 33 minutes during the regular season--there was no way Tortorella was going to dress him during the playoffs.

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09-04-2012, 11:19 PM
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More of a liability that putting Stu in either of those spots for about 3 minutes a game? (just playing devil's advocate haha)
If he was that good, Tortorella would of done so. But the fact is, even if he was in shape, players of his ilk generally don't see time in the playoffs.

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09-05-2012, 03:30 AM
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Acquired for a 5th round pick, played 6 games on the 4th line and served as depth at wing and and defence if necessary during the playoffs. If Rupp got hurt he could have filled in. Also had that insane breakaway in the Ottawa game and fought Cam Janssen in a game against the Devils. The Blackhawks selected D Travis Brown from Moose Jaw in the WHL, yet another 6'1 defenceman who may or may not make it to the NHL, but won't in the next few years for sure and doesn't have the tools to develop as a top-4 guy. I don't Sather really gave up anything for increased toughness depth and could maybe do the same thing for Jody Shelley this season at the deadline.
The fact that this was the move we made was a disaster... We were short on warm bodies and had a completely worthless guy on the roster.

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09-05-2012, 02:03 PM
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Was always a bit of a head scratcher for me.

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