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I don't want a mid 1st for Grabo. he is worth more than that. if we trade grabo for a draft pick we are setting ourselves back another 3 years. Grabs is our 2C of the present and future and he is a great one at that.
What would your team give up for him? I'd be up for it b/c we aren't really going anywhere this season and I would love to get Monahan and Domi in the next draft for a future 1/2 combo. Send some offers
Grabovski has the least value of any 28 year old 50-60 point center that is good on draws and responsible defensively. The fact he leads by example is over-shadowed by the fact he wears blue. Wearing blue is all you need to do around these parts to have your value diminished greatly.
He had 2 points less and 2 goals more than Paul Stastny and was +8 better on a weaker defensive team. In 5 fewer games.
He had 1 point less than Plekanec and was +15 better and better on faceoffs. In 7 fewer games.
There are all kinds of comparables but this board will tell you he's not as valuable as any.
Grabo is worth more than offers made here in general. One of your team's top 10 prospect + 1st rounder. Does not PKing and should take more advantage of his PP time. But quite nice Corsi numbers, while facing tough competition.
But I'm not really sure if he's the kind of guy we're looking for. Faceoffs? Check. But I was gonna ask if he can stand in front of the net on the PP until I saw he weighs as much as Kane. I'd get more into in-depth trades involving prospects/roster players if I thought he had the tools needed.
Not to mention he was willing to fight Neil. The two ended up falling pretty quick so not many punches were thrown but he did drop his gloves against him still.
Grabovski has the least value of any 28 year old 50-60 point center that is good on draws and responsible defensively. The fact he leads by example is over-shadowed by the fact he wears blue. Wearing blue is all you need to do around these parts to have your value diminished greatly.
He had 2 points less and 2 goals more than Paul Stastny and was +8 better on a weaker defensive team. In 5 fewer games.
He had 1 point less than Plekanec and was +15 better and better on faceoffs. In 7 fewer games.
There are all kinds of comparables but this board will tell you he's not as valuable as any.
It has nothing to do with being a Leaf and everything to do with the fact that a year or two ago Leafs fans had him as a throwaway throw-in on nearly every single trade proposal they could think up. Much like how Connolly, Franson, and Kadri are treated right now.
It's the sheer mass of "get rid of him while he's doing poorly" proposals that depresses his value around here.
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It has nothing to do with being a Leaf and everything to do with the fact that a year or two ago Leafs fans had him as a throwaway throw-in on nearly every single trade proposal they could think up. Much like how Connolly, Franson, and Kadri are treated right now.
It's the sheer mass of "get rid of him while he's doing poorly" proposals that depresses his value around here.
So why is that affecting his value now? He has played well since then and no longer thrown in every proposal. It has come to the point now where fans see no point in trading him unless it's for an upgrade.
It has nothing to do with being a Leaf and everything to do with the fact that a year or two ago Leafs fans had him as a throwaway throw-in on nearly every single trade proposal they could think up. Much like how Connolly, Franson, and Kadri are treated right now.
It's the sheer mass of "get rid of him while he's doing poorly" proposals that depresses his value around here.
That's because alot of our fanbase is chocked full of know-nothing idiots that are quick to throw every struggling Leaf player under the bus if he's not scoring a minimum of 30 goals a season (eg: Kulemin this past season)
So why is that affecting his value now? He has played well since then and no longer thrown in every proposal. It has come to the point now where fans see no point in trading him unless it's for an upgrade.
But that's where folks are used to hearing about him.
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Originally Posted by Darkhorse1280
That's because alot of our fanbase is chocked full of know-nothing idiots that are quick to throw every struggling Leaf player under the bus if he's not scoring a minimum of 30 goals a season (eg: Kulemin this past season)
Don't lump me in with those dummies.
For my part, I try not to paint all Leafs fans with the same brush. But, sadly, I can't do anything about everyone else, as I don't rule the world.
Yet.
Whats with Domi love affair because his dad was a tough player on leafs?? He is not tough and is a yapper and not big...Dont we have enough smaller players already
better options than Domi who was a no show in OHL playoffs
1. Adam Erne – F – Quebec Remparts
I’ve always been a big fan of Erne. Erne plays much bigger than his 6 ft frame and backs it up with offensive numbers typical of an elite powerforward. He isn’t afraid to get dirty and lay a big hit when needed either.
2. Kerby Rychel – F – Windsor Spitfires
Kerby’s hard-nosed style of play has gotten him a Top 20 spot in my rankings. He plays similar to former teammate Alexander Khokhlachev in the sense that he always to be going to the dirty areas to make plays or score goals. He is an attractive option for many teams.
By the proper way I assume you mean suck really hard for a while and get early picks. I personally think it speaks volumes when a franchise tries to stay competitive even when its easier to simply lose. That being said, Burke should have realized how thoroughly messed up the team was when he took the reigns from JFJ.
It does speak volumes and the message is.... we dont care if we ever win a cup as long as we are good enough to fill the seats. Edmonton did the same for years. Calgary is doing it now. It only leads to heartache. If you want to get good you have to suck first. In a salary cap world anyway.
Personally wouldn't trade a bag of pucks for him mainly because he has the stick control of a 4 year old. That said, I think it would be interesting to see him on a line with the kostitsyn's.
Personally wouldn't trade a bag of pucks for him mainly because he has the stick control of a 4 year old. That said, I think it would be interesting to see him on a line with the kostitsyn's.
I was going to comment on your Leaf/Grabo hate...then i got it. Didn't his stick slide up Pronger's?
Domi will be a mid-1st pick, I was more thinking tank for Monahan and trade for Domi pick.
This is brilliant. Just when we're getting somewhere close to actually competing, let's trade off our only legit top-two-line center for draft picks. If we're tanking maybe we can get some draft picks for Kessel and Phaneuf too. Maybe trade the whole pro roster for draft picks and call all the Marlies up. Then we'll get all the top prospects in the draft and be the coolest on HF Boards. Then when the team gets close to competitive again in a few years we could trade those guys all away for picks and start over again.
