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09-04-2012, 09:40 PM
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Brandon Saad (CHI) - Teuvo Teravainen (CHI) - Vladimir Tarasenko (STL)
Gustav Nyquist (DET) - Calle Jarnkrok (DET) - Ty Rattie (STL)
Jaden Schwartz (STL) - Mark McNeill (CHI) - Tomas Jurco (DET)
Pontus Aberg (NSH) - Brandon Pirri (CHI) - Cam Atkinson (CBJ)
Teemu Pulkkinen (DET)


Ryan Murray (CBJ) - Brendan Smith (DET)
Roman Josi (NSH) - Tim Erixion (CBJ)
Ryan Ellis (NSH) - Dylan Olsen (CHI)
David Savard (CBJ)

Jake Allen (STL)
Oscar Dansk (CBJ)
Magnus Hellberg (NSH)

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09-04-2012, 09:51 PM
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why are people putting RNH into their NW teams? He's not a prospect anymore

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09-04-2012, 09:54 PM
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Central


Brandon Saad (CHI) - Teuvo Teravainen (CHI) - Vladimir Tarasenko (STL)
Gustav Nyquist (DET) - Calle Jarnkrok (DET) - Ty Rattie (STL)
Jaden Schwartz (STL) - Mark McNeill (CHI) - Tomas Jurco (DET)
Pontus Aberg (NSH) - Brandon Pirri (CHI) - Cam Atkinson (CBJ)
Teemu Pulkkinen (DET)


Ryan Murray (CBJ) - Brendan Smith (DET)
Roman Josi (NSH) - Tim Erixion (CBJ)
Ryan Ellis (NSH) - Dylan Olsen (CHI)
David Savard (CBJ)

Jake Allen (STL)
Oscar Dansk (CBJ)
Magnus Hellberg (NSH)
Terevainen is primarily a winger, last I checked. That's certainly what Central Scouting had him listed as.

(And I'm frankly not nearly that high on him. #1C? Yikes.)

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09-04-2012, 09:56 PM
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Terevainen is primarily a winger, last I checked. That's certainly what Central Scouting had him listed as.
He played mostly LW last year.. in international tournaments and heading into the 2012-13 season he's played/will be playing centre. Also, Chicago is intending on developing him as a centre.

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09-04-2012, 09:59 PM
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Jakob Silfverberg (OTT) - Alex Galchenyuk (MON) - Mark Stone (OTT)
Nazem Kadri (TOR) - Mikhail Grigorenko (BUF) - Mika Zibanejad (OTT)
Marcus Foligno (BUF) - Zemgus Girgensons (BUF) - Stefan Noesen (OTT)
Ryan Spooner (BOS) - Louis Leblanc (MON) - Sebastien Collberg (MON)

Dougie Hamilton (BOS) - Morgan Reilly (TOR)
Jarred Tinordi (MON) - Cody Ceci (OTT)
Nathan Beaulieu (MON) - Brayden McNabb (BUF)

Robin Lehner (OTT)
Malcolm Subban (BOS)

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09-04-2012, 09:59 PM
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(And I'm frankly not nearly that high on him. #1C? Yikes.)
You're right, Calle Jarnkrok is much better option.

This is a prospect all-star thread, isn't it? I didn't really put too much stock into the lines, I tried to put guys on lines that I thought would work well together.

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09-04-2012, 10:05 PM
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You're right, Calle Jarnkrok is much better option.

This is a prospect all-star thread, isn't it? I didn't really put too much stock into the lines, I tried to put guys on lines that I thought would work well together.

Jarnkrok fits the #1C spot better .
He's just better right now. Put
Teuvo on left wing to Jarnkrok or something...

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He played mostly LW last year.. in international tournaments and heading into the 2012-13 season he's played/will be playing centre. Also, Chicago is intending on developing him as a centre.
That says to me for the time being that he's a LW - which is a very, very deep position here.

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You're right, Calle Jarnkrok is much better option.
I honestly think he is, but that could be up for a lot of debate, which is why I was so uncertain about my own chart there. Frankly, IMO there's no runaway favorite in the Central for #1C right now - the two that would have seemed the most likely are either actually playing almost exclusively on the wing at higher levels (Schwartz) or are three games past HF's GP standard and so can't be listed here to begin with (Johansen).

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This is a prospect all-star thread, isn't it? I didn't really put too much stock into the lines, I tried to put guys on lines that I thought would work well together.
Fair enough.

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09-04-2012, 11:28 PM
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Silfverberg(OTT)-Galchenyuk(MTL)-Zibanejad(OTT)
Armia(BUF)-Grigorenko(BUF)-Kadri(TOR)
Biggs(TOR)-Girgensons(BUF)-Collberg(MTL)
Gallagher(MTL)-Colborne(TOR)-Stone(OTT)
Hudon(MTL)

Reilly(TOR)-Hamilton(BOS)
Finn (TOR)-Beaulieu(MTL)
Ceci(OTT)-Blacker(TOR)
McNabb(BUF)

Subban (BOS)
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09-04-2012, 11:31 PM
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Silfverberg(OTT)-Galchenyuk(MTL)-Zibanejad(OTT)
Armia(BUF)-Grigorenko(BUF)-Kadri(TOR)
Biggs(TOR)-Girgensons(BUF)-Collberg(MTL)
Gallagher(MTL)-Colborne(TOR)-Stone(OTT)
Hudon(MON)

Reilly(TOR)-Hamilton(BOS)
Finn (TOR)-Beaulieu(MTL)
Ceci(OTT)-Blacker(TOR)
McNabb(BUF)

Subban (BOS)
Lehner (OTT)
Come on. Lol at those 2 over McNabb


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09-04-2012, 11:34 PM
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Jakob Silfverberg (OTT) - Alex Galchenyuk (MON) - Mark Stone (OTT)
Nazem Kadri (TOR) - Mikhail Grigorenko (BUF) - Mika Zibanejad (OTT)
Marcus Foligno (BUF) - Zemgus Girgensons (BUF) - Stefan Noesen (OTT)
Ryan Spooner (BOS) - Louis Leblanc (MON) - Sebastien Collberg (MON)

Dougie Hamilton (BOS) - Morgan Reilly (TOR)
Jarred Tinordi (MON) - Cody Ceci (OTT)
Nathan Beaulieu (MON) - Brayden McNabb (BUF)

Robin Lehner (OTT)
Malcolm Subban (BOS)
No Armia? For real?

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Come on. Lol at those 2 over McNabb
Finn was rated as high as 9 on some draft rankings. I had him over Ceci all year personally. He was on a bad team but he is so intelligent and such a hard worker. He would play so many minutes for Guelph and I came away impressed after every viewing.

Blacker was just as good as Gardiner in training camp last year (some thought he looked better) and he had a shot at making the team just like Gardiner but he got injured in pre-season and didn't make the team because of that and then fought through injuries all year. He's held very high in my eyes because of watching him a lot in his last year in Owen sound and also that training camp performance matching Gardiner and then Gardiner going on to have the year he had. I even saw him play in the AHL last year and he was great every time. He's got decent size, dynamic skating ability, moves the puck very well, but is also pretty physical and very good defensively.


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09-05-2012, 12:20 AM
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No Armia? For real?
Reminds me too much of Wolski

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09-05-2012, 01:23 AM
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Finn was rated as high as 9 on some draft rankings. I had him over Ceci all year personally. He was on a bad team but he is so intelligent and such a hard worker. He would play so many minutes for Guelph and I came away impressed after every viewing.

Blacker was just as good as Gardiner in training camp last year (some thought he looked better) and he had a shot at making the team just like Gardiner but he got injured in pre-season and didn't make the team because of that and then fought through injuries all year. He's held very high in my eyes because of watching him a lot in his last year in Owen sound and also that training camp performance matching Gardiner and then Gardiner going on to have the year he had. I even saw him play in the AHL last year and he was great every time. He's got decent size, dynamic skating ability, moves the puck very well, but is also pretty physical and very good defensively.
That's nice and all, but...
Blacker (AHL) 58GP 1G 15A 16P +/-8
McNabb (AHL) 45GP 5G 25A 30P +/-15 (on a worse team!)
McNabb (NHL) 25GP 1G 7A 8P +/- -1

In addition, McNabb is a big kid and very physical.
If Blacker is as good as Gardiner, McNabb is the second coming of Shea Weber.

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That's nice and all, but...
Blacker (AHL) 58GP 1G 15A 16P +/-8
McNabb (AHL) 45GP 5G 25A 30P +/-15 (on a worse team!)
McNabb (NHL) 25GP 1G 7A 8P +/- -1

In addition, McNabb is a big kid and very physical.
If Blacker is as good as Gardiner, McNabb is the second coming of Shea Weber.
Did you not get the part where he was plagued with injuries? He would start to get his groove back and then he'd get injured again. It was a very frustrating year. Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story.

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Did you not get the part where he was plagued with injuries? He would start to get his groove back and then he'd get injured again. It was a very frustrating year. Sometimes stats don't tell the whole story.
You know what other prospects were like that a few years ago for Buffalo? Drew Schiestel and Dennis Persson. They turned out well.
Also, Blacker played more AHL games than McNabb on a much stronger team and managed to be statistically worse in every way.

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Central with Wings homerism.

Nyquist-Järnkrok-Tarasenko
Schwartz-Saad-Rattie
Jurco-Tatar-Atkinson
Sheahan/Andersson/McNeill/Hayes/Tvrdon/Smith/Jenner consist teh 4th line.

That's assuming Brunner doesn't count. And Saad can play C (I think I read somewhere Q might/will try that).

I think these lines are pretty balanced. No Finns, they do nothing but choke when it matters and their names are ***** to pronounce and write. I'd have liked all Slovak line on the third but Atkinson brings RH-shot there and I like he's game so let's leave it at that. I'm had enough with all LHs on Wings already. 4th line is for big bodies who can still contribute some offense. Don't really know which to pick there, all are good options and good players are left to watch tv.

Murray-Smith
Erixon-Josi
Savard-Blum
Cole

I'd like to have LH-shot on 3rd pairing or put LHs and RHs together but I think Savard and Blum are better than Cole or Olsen (I might be totally talking out of my ass here?). Ellis is too small for my liking, imo that D has enough offensive skill already.

Allen
Mrazek
Forsberg/Dansk

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Reminds me too much of Wolski
.....How?

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why are people putting RNH into their NW teams? He's not a prospect anymore
According to hfboards he is.

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You know what other prospects were like that a few years ago for Buffalo? Drew Schiestel and Dennis Persson. They turned out well.
Also, Blacker played more AHL games than McNabb on a much stronger team and managed to be statistically worse in every way.

Seriously, hop off. I gave my opinion and stated reasons why I hold that opinion. You can keep throwing stats around all you want, I don't care. Going forward I'm taking Blacker.

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.....How?
Lack of intensity in his game
Can be very soft on the puck
One-dimensional
Inconsistent

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Lack of intensity in his game
Can be very soft on the puck
One-dimensional
Inconsistent
Can't say I share most of those opinions.
IMO, his strength got much better last year (though it still needs to improve quite a bit more before he's ready for the NHL), and I think his puck protection skill and forechecking are two of the stronger pieces to his game. He may not play an "intense" game in the "initiating physical contact" way, which I guess everyone expects him too since he's big -- let's call it Joe Thornton Syndrome -- but he is very, very focused and intense about scoring. Even just watching him to drills in development camp..If he missed his first few shots, as soon as there was a break, he'd be standing alone in front of the net working on picking his spots, getting a good release, etc. One-dimensional, I'll give you...For now. Many scorers take a while to develop well-rounded games, if they ever do at all. That's ok. Kessel doesn't have a well-rounded game, and he's still a great player. Inconsistent? Eh. We'll see what he does this year. He finished the back half last year playing at a PPG pace in the SM-Liiga as an 18yo. If he can continue a similar pace this year? He could fall off too, but it's too soon to call him inconsistent/consistent one way or the other.

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Silverberg-Zibanejab-Collberg
Armia-Kadri-Stone
Foligno-Girgensons-Leblanc
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Reilly-Ceci
Tinordi-Hamilton
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How many times have you seen Armia play?

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