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09-05-2012, 09:51 PM
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Horcoff

What you give for him? He is a decent 3rd liner so who would you trade for him?

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09-05-2012, 09:53 PM
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a meh 3rd liner with a top line salary

id give up Komisarek + Connolly for Horcoff + 2nd

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He won't return anything other than a bad contract. Next year when he is making 4m then 3m the following season is when he might be able to be moved.

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He's not a decent 3rd liner. He's a 3rd liner on a horrible team.

Terribad player, horrific contract

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yakupov and rnh will cost u a lot of money soon

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A team would only give us an equally terrible contract, so I'd rather keep our captain.

Only way to not get a brutal contract back is to add picks/prospects, and that doesn't make sense for where the Oilers are right now.

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09-05-2012, 10:24 PM
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Take Gomer?

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He's not a decent 3rd liner. He's a 3rd liner on a horrible team.

Terribad player, horrific contract
As a Flame fan he isn't "that bad" but he just is no where near worth his 5.5 cap hit.

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09-05-2012, 10:24 PM
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a meh 3rd liner with a top line salary

id give up Komisarek + Connolly for Horcoff + 2nd
You make it sound like either of these two actually have any more value than Horcoff.

I'd still take Horcoff on my team over those two.

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09-05-2012, 10:52 PM
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As a Flame fan he isn't "that bad" but he just is no where near worth his 5.5 cap hit.
Agreed, if he was paid 2m per he would have some value as a 3rd liner, his contract is horrible however. No more than a cap dump.

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09-05-2012, 10:57 PM
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yakupov and rnh will cost u a lot of money soon
2 and 3 years from now respectively. Horcoff will be an UFA when Nail's ELC ends. In the meantime we'll have to be paying RNH and J. Schultz. Hemsky's deal comes up the same time as those 2 need extensions and Ryan Whitney is an UFA at years end. I forgot that Khabibulin's $3.75 million comes off the books after this season as well.

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maybe, amnesty buy out? But I don't think the Oilers want to pay out the $11Mil or gamble on getting a cheaper replacement. I expect there will be a few 3rd line centers available if there is a buy out.

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Connolly + Franson for Horcoff + Peckham

Peckham adds toughness to the Leafs.

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Connolly + Franson for Horcoff + Peckham

Peckham adds toughness to the Leafs.
Horcoff makes more than Connolly and has 2 more years on his deal. I really doubt that switching those two D will entice Toronto enough to make that deal.

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09-05-2012, 11:48 PM
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Connolly + Franson for Horcoff + Peckham

Peckham adds toughness to the Leafs.
No way do the Leafs bite on that, not close.

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Leino And a 2nd

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Just keep him. The timing works out so Hall can gain some more experience before being named captain (my guess). The Oilers don't need the cap space this year, and next year will be a year to gain playoff experience (likely). After that the Oilers will start making their bids for the cup and they wont have to worry about this awful contract.
Until then, Horcoff is one of the only forwards on the team that actually plays defense, so just hope it rubs off on some players.


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Leino And a 2nd
He's bad, but not that bad.

He was better offensively last year than Leino, which means they were both terrible.

Sadly, I think buffalo could another pick and the Oilers still wouldn't do it. Not because Horcoff is better, but 5 more years on that deal is a cap killer trying to sign Smid, Schultz, RNH, Yakupov, etc

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Horcoff and a 1st for Bouwmeester

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a meh 3rd liner with a top line salary

id give up Komisarek + Connolly for Horcoff + 2nd
komi's contract is almost as bad as Horcoffs. Oilers are taking on more cash than they are sending so drop the second. Komi does not make the oilers D and Connelly has lost a step and for me is a down grade for Horcoff on the third line. Leaf fans wont want horcoff anyway and they will really hate my description of Komi and connolly. Oilers have Peckham, Potter and Sutton for the bottom 5-6-7 spot and don't need a guy making 3.5 mill with a cap hit of 4.5

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Horcoff and a 1st for Bouwmeester
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2 and 3 years from now respectively. Horcoff will be an UFA when Nail's ELC ends. In the meantime we'll have to be paying RNH and J. Schultz. Hemsky's deal comes up the same time as those 2 need extensions and Ryan Whitney is an UFA at years end. I forgot that Khabibulin's $3.75 million comes off the books after this season as well.
Don't forget the 1.5M buyout from Souray's contract coming off end of the yr.

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Connolly + Franson for Horcoff + Peckham

Peckham adds toughness to the Leafs.
I'd make the trade instantly.

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09-06-2012, 03:33 AM
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Don't forget the 1.5M buyout from Souray's contract coming off end of the yr.
The bottom line is that management has been thinking ahead in terms of retaining all of these guys so I'm not worried.

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09-06-2012, 04:31 AM
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Take Gomer?
Rather keep Gomer.We at least can send Gomer to the minors if we decide.
Also Gomers contract ends one yr sooner.EDM can keep Horcoff.

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