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07-04-2012, 08:17 PM
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HFNHL Off Season Sim God Thread

So, barring errors, I believe that all is up to date.

Today I completed all the contracts updates, prospect releases and added the draft.

Next is Free Agency. That may be preceded by new PRELIM ratings.

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Awesome job getting all that nonsense taken care of.

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Awesome job getting all that nonsense taken care of.
Thanks. Luckily for the HFNHL Erin is sick today and so we didn't do much for 4th of July. Well. I did.

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We truly are not worthy.

Hope Erin feels better soon - I missed Canada Day - and my 3-year-old's first big fireworks display - with a nasty cold, spent the most beautiful weekend ever in bed.

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As of July 24th

Trades are all up to date.
Free Agent Signings from first round up to date
New UDFA players created and signings up to date
Changed Sens GM - Brought $$ up to $10 per new GM rules
Changed Pens GM Email
Added Awards Cash to bank accounts


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Thanks Matt, I appreciate the effort and dedication.

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Props for getting all this work done, Matt. Just one small correction. Not sure which team Keith Aucoin is supposed to be on, but he's on my roster. Thanks!

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Props for getting all this work done, Matt. Just one small correction. Not sure which team Keith Aucoin is supposed to be on, but he's on my roster. Thanks!
Thanks Josh -- he should be on the Canucks roster and I'll move him there.

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I am having some trouble with my Parallels partition - it is not Mountain Lion compatible - so sorry for the file update delays. Sickness has also delayed the UDFA lottery. But don't worry - its still on again for this year.

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I am having some trouble with my Parallels partition - it is not Mountain Lion compatible - so sorry for the file update delays. Sickness has also delayed the UDFA lottery. But don't worry - its still on again for this year.
Can you get that pornstar who was at the Kings' Cup run to pull out the balls?

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Can you get that pornstar who was at the Kings' Cup run to pull out the balls?
Pretty sure that any pornstar with balls is someone I don't need to see.

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Taylor Stevens. Good ole Toronto girl

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Back up and running. New VM Software and a new version of Windows XP. Boom!

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So I thought everyone might like an update on where we are.

I'm about 98% of the way through adding in all the new ratings (have not been published yet though on the official site) - and almost through adding in all the free agency contracts. I've created all the rookies and UDFA's (which is a very cumbersome process as it requires researching every individual player detail.)

That said, all the ratings have been created (by the wonderful team of Quain, Emerson, Kreuger & Isopaa) and we will be doing a thorough test of these ratings, as will SimGods in other leagues.

Other tasks that I've yet to complete are adding a couple more team endorsement funds and Euro/Retired player removals.

Needless to say, despite the quiet, we are far more prepared for the upcoming season than we have ever been. In fact, if we wanted to we could start this week. I think there is a distinct possibility that we could sim day for day with the NHL, if only the NHL gets its act together.

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Great news indeed. Just want to underscore the caveat that the ratings have to be tested: this means they are not final, we may have some tweaking to do based on the output of test seasons.

Any tweaking would be made to formulas, not individual ratings, do any effects would be consistent across the league. An example wod be when we had to scale back blueliners' offensive numbers a couple of seasons ago because they were out-scoring top forwards in pre-season. Those are the sorts of anomalies we'll be watching for and addressing: ones that affect the balance and realism of the sim.

Another example we'll be paying close attention to in testing will be goalie endurance and durability. Last year several teams were able to play their starting goalies for all 82 games. Not realistic! We believe our test ratings have addressed that, making it more necessary (or advisable, at least) to make sure your backup gets some starts, but we won't know if we've found the right balance until after some test seasons are run.

So keep in mind that the preliminary ratings posted in the yahoo group files are just that - preliminary, and that any changes will be made to formulas to ensure their fair application across everyone's players.

Even so, fantastic and unheard-of progress to have made at this point. Wish we could say the same about NHL labour talks.

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Good points Doug.

The prelim ratings are now up. Check the unassigned ratings for rookies.

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My issue is goalie ratings bug time MacDonald 72 ? But Bobrovsky and Budaj are lower 67 and 68 both played more games last 3 seasons lol

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My issue is goalie ratings bug time MacDonald 72 ? But Bobrovsky and Budaj are lower 67 and 68 both played more games last 3 seasons lol
Both skaters and goalies are based on the last 164 games (or last two full seasons). Goalies were ranked based on a formula with multiple variables, and those variables and rankings were closely vetted. Ville can doubtless speak to it in detail, but shouldn't have to - the relative rankings are pretty consistently fair based on the players' actual performances. I suggest you ignore the names, and just look at the three goalies' numbers over the last couple of seasons.

EDIT: I should add that I'm not exactly thrilled with Travis Zajac's rating myself, but in going over the newest for the past couple of seasons, they're hard to argue with. Conversely, I'm generally pleased with the ratings for Columbus' blueline, (all pending testing, of course!), so I can't complain. I suspect that will be the case for all teams: a few guys they thought would rate out higher, a few guys lower. It should balance out. What matters now is how you manage your team based on the ratings you've got, to make the most of your strengths and minimize your weaknesses.


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maybe its just me but i dont see what the big deal is. was LAK the best rated team in our league? the SIM ends up doing what it wants and i cant recall ever talking trade and anyone taking a clearly lower value player over a higher value player because of a rating.

the players pedigree is what determines trade value and the whims of the SIM decide who wins. while i am sure the ratings obviously play a role in the algorithims, as Douglas said, everyone has some wins and losses in their player ratings.

thanks for the all hard work guys!

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My issue is goalie ratings bug time MacDonald 72 ? But Bobrovsky and Budaj are lower 67 and 68 both played more games last 3 seasons lol
The games played, or rather minutes played is one of the many stats used in ranking and rating the goalies. As for Bob and Budaj playing more, that is reflected in their higher EN rating (54, 45 and 36). As for the skill ratings take a look at what they actually have done in the past two seasons. The skill ratings of MacDonald are higher than Budaj or Bobrovsky, but if the ratings work the way they are supposed Bobrovsky and Budaj should still be able to handle more starts due to a higher EN rating.

MacDonald
10-11: 15 gp, 2.54 GAA, .917 SV%, 1 SO
11-12: 14 gp, 2.16 GAA, .912 SV%, 0 SO

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10-11: 45 gp, 3.20 GAA, .895 SV%, 1 SO
11-12: 17 gp, 2.55 GAA, .913 SV%, 0 SO

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10-11: 54 gp, 2.59 GAA, .915 SV%, 0 SO
11-12: 29 gp, 3.02 GAA, .899 SV%, 0 SO

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I'm screwed no matter who is in net go figure ville knew this so acquired my pick :p

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My issue is goalie ratings bug time MacDonald 72 ? But Bobrovsky and Budaj are lower 67 and 68 both played more games last 3 seasons lol
Where are you getting the overall rating from?

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Where are you getting the overall rating from?
Here amigo

http://www.hfnhl.com/2013/HFNHL1-Pro...er.html#Bruins

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I'll need EX and LD for Ryan Jonson and Ryan Potulny, but outside of that Columbus' ratings set looks complete. Other players in a similar boat include Garnet Exelby (BOS), Blair Betts and Christian Ehrhoff (MTL), Mark Streit (NJD), Mattias Ohlund (TAM), and Mark Stuart (LAK).

There are also a number of players with no rating. In most cases these are prospects who are a few years away from the NHL, or players who have retired in recent seasons. In some cases (such as PK Subban), however, they represent gaps in the file. Perhaps each team can review their roster and let us know which unrated players are likely to need ratings?

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Cam Fowler is missing his ratings

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