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2012-13 point total prediction: Alexander Burmistrov

View Poll Results: How many points will Burmistrov score in 2012-13
Less than 20 0 0%
20-24 0 0%
24-29 2 5.71%
30-34 3 8.57%
35-39 11 31.43%
40-44 10 28.57%
45-49 6 17.14%
50-54 3 8.57%
55-59 0 0%
More than 60 0 0%
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09-08-2012, 10:47 PM
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I guess you have more faith in Noel to make those assessments than I do. Stapleton will never play in the NHL again and he was regularly awarded PP time last year over Burmi, even Kane in some games. Burmi was one of our best forwards to start last season, his play quickly trailed off after being demoted unexplicably. This team is lacking high end skill and will never be a major player in FA. We can't expect any future success if the young core talent doesn't maximize their potential/asset value and Burmistrov is one of those key pieces.
Stapleton was really good on the PP so I don't understand the complaint. He's not in the NHL because he's incredibly undersized and plays that way. On the PP however he had one of the better shots, could QB from the halfboards or the point and was generally a smart/creative player when we needed him to be, despite having to sit out stretches and rarely getting used otherwise.

Besides, giving Burmistrov third-line minutes in a shutdown role (i.e. the role that he's capable of at this point) can be described as letting him succeed WHILE earning his spot on the team. Gifting him PP and top-line minutes that he's not capable of handling doesn't help him at this point and can further hurt his confidence just as when he was rushed in to the league.

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09-10-2012, 06:33 PM
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Oh dear... time for Myth Busters:

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Re-signing Wellwood was a mistake imo. The guy has no future here and he's going to be taking valuable minutes away from Burmistrov plus Scheifele has almost no shot of making the team now.

The playoffs are still a long shot this season so why not let them get their feet wet now? Come year three the pressure will be on to make the next step .... and we're going to throw Scheifele out there as a rookie?
Unless you can tell the future, you have no idea whether or not Wellwood has a future here.

Above you say Scheifele has almost no shot of making the team now but bellow you mention how our key pieces need to be maximized. Technically best asset management would be for Scheifele to spend one more year in the OHL playing big minutes, rather than 4th line/pressbox being super sheltered.

If Noel does his job right, Wellwood will only take valuable minutes from Burmistrov if Burmistrov doesn't earn/win those minutes. That is a form of opportunity and push for development. Also, Wellwood is a smart hockey player which could further provide mentorship for Burmistrov's development. Fehr was the only player on the Jets who I would say wasn't used wisely by Noel and I think part of that was Noel just thought Fehr's luck was so bad he was like a cooler they use in casinos.

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I guess you have more faith in Noel to make those assessments than I do. Stapleton will never play in the NHL again and he was regularly awarded PP time last year over Burmi, even Kane in some games. Burmi was one of our best forwards to start last season, his play quickly trailed off after being demoted unexplicably. This team is lacking high end skill and will never be a major player in FA. We can't expect any future success if the young core talent doesn't maximize their potential/asset value and Burmistrov is one of those key pieces.
Now to get to the stats stuff:

Stapleton played at the point because he was shown in the team's skill competition to have one of the hardest and most accurate shots on the team. And even with being on the point (meaning more PP mins than the forwards usually), Stapleton only beat Burmistrov by 0.41 mins/game.

Burmistrov was trusted quite a bit for his age and was used appropriately (for how Burmistrov performed) by Noel:
TOI P/60 CorsiOn
5v5 5th 8th 5th
5v4 7th 8th 5th
4v5 2nd 2nd 1st
I didn't count Stapleton for 5v4 because he played point.
I didn't count Stapleton, Wellwood or Fehr for 4v5 because they were 0.05TOI/60 (AKA didn't actually play)

You discuss Burmistrov being best in the beginning but than pittered off when he was dropped down to the 4th line. Could it be possible he was dropped down the 4th line because his play pittered and you didn't notice it? Cause and effect debate, right?

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