HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Winnipeg Jets
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Jets sign Spencer Machacek [Mod Note: Signing Confirmation post #12]

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
09-11-2012, 09:25 AM
  #1
voyageur
Registered lunatic
 
voyageur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: negotiable
Country: Canada
Posts: 440
vCash: 500
Jets sign Spencer Machacek [Mod Note: Signing Confirmation post #12]

Anyone find it odd that amidst all the signings the Jets made in the offseason, Machacek isn't one of them? While it may be speculation I would fathom that if he is still unsigned it is not due to monetary discrepancy but rather TNSE must be trying to offer him a two-way contract, while he is looking for a one way ticket to the show. I wonder how much Aaron Gagnon's one-way contract affects his status. I am inclined to believe that True North is not the kind of organization to negotiate a one-way contract and demote a player, they are on the record as saying they will honour contracts. This places Machacek in a tough spot, as he is now a 5th year pro with 23 NHL games on his resume. I thought his play last year warranted a spot on this year's Jets alignment, but with Maxwell, Cormier and Scheifle, and perhaps even Meech, who cracked the team as the 8th defenseman last year, all competing for a job in Winnipeg, will Machacek be with the Jets this year (assuming there is a hockey season)? Pretty sure the Ice Caps would love to have him back to open the season.


Last edited by Holden Caulfield: 09-11-2012 at 04:41 PM. Reason: added note about signing confirmation in title
voyageur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 09:30 AM
  #2
Grind
Stomacheache AllStar
 
Grind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 4,146
vCash: 500
I think Machacek is good enough to play on a fourth line role. Lets be reasonable, his point streak was lucky, and there's a reason he's only played 23 games thus far.

His biggest problem is not his current ability, but the ability of those around him. With Cormier, Klingberg, Scheifele, Telegin and Machacek all having a shot (albeit an outside shot for some) to force their way onto the roster Machacek may become a victim of a numbers game.

I also for one don't believe that Gagnon will get a spot unless he outplays all of the above. That's entirely possible, but extraordinarily unlikely in my mind.

Grind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 09:44 AM
  #3
truck
HFB Partner
 
truck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,408
vCash: 495
I think this is a clear sign that Spencer Machacek hates Winnipeg.

I hear he is worried that he may never be the face of our 4th line and had demanded a trade.

Seriously though, I'm sure he will sign eventually.

truck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 10:08 AM
  #4
Grind
Stomacheache AllStar
 
Grind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Manitoba
Posts: 4,146
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by truck View Post
I think this is a clear sign that Spencer Machacek hates Winnipeg.

I hear he is worried that he may never be the face of our 4th line and had demanded a trade.

Seriously though, I'm sure he will sign eventually.
this made me smile.

Grind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 12:11 PM
  #5
allan5oh
#Dive4Five #31Buyout
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 6,399
vCash: 50
I read an article on this exact subject but cannot find it. Basically it is due to the cba. Not signing him indicates that both parties are interested in a one way. But if he signs one and is locked out he's not eligible to play in the ahl. So they're waiting on what Sept 15th brings.

allan5oh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 12:25 PM
  #6
Holden Caulfield
Moderator
Perennial Skeptic
 
Holden Caulfield's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,015
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by allan5oh View Post
I read an article on this exact subject but cannot find it. Basically it is due to the cba. Not signing him indicates that both parties are interested in a one way. But if he signs one and is locked out he's not eligible to play in the ahl. So they're waiting on what Sept 15th brings.
Oneway or two-way due not effect waivers so that's not going to effect it. But it means jets don't want to chance the special waivers to send him to ahl this week. This way he could sign a deal with st. John's and get paid/keep playing until cab is finalized.

If Aaron Gagnon is on the roster to start the season next year I will have zero faith in chevy's ability to judge talent. If it's at the expense of Machacek, I would probably be ready to move on to new management, tbh.

If it's due to wanting to save 400K, TNSE needs to get out of owning a NHL team, if you can't afford that to put your best team on the ice, you don't deserve a team.

Holden Caulfield is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 12:58 PM
  #7
Huffer
Registered User
 
Huffer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,324
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Holden Caulfield View Post
Oneway or two-way due not effect waivers so that's not going to effect it. But it means jets don't want to chance the special waivers to send him to ahl this week. This way he could sign a deal with st. John's and get paid/keep playing until cab is finalized.

If Aaron Gagnon is on the roster to start the season next year I will have zero faith in chevy's ability to judge talent. If it's at the expense of Machacek, I would probably be ready to move on to new management, tbh.

If it's due to wanting to save 400K, TNSE needs to get out of owning a NHL team, if you can't afford that to put your best team on the ice, you don't deserve a team.
If your 1st paragraph is true, I think that's a good thing as it shows that they like Machacek, and want to do what they can to make sure he stays with the org.

I don't personally think the 2nd or 3rd paragraphs will come true. At least I would hope not. We have much too much talent to even think about Gagnon, and I just couldn't see TNSE making a move to the detriment of the on ice product to save 400k. I can't obviously be sure of that, but it just doesn't seem like their MO.

Huffer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:31 PM
  #8
Fidel Astro
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,314
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by truck View Post
I think this is a clear sign that Spencer Machacek hates Winnipeg.

I hear he is worried that he may never be the face of our 4th line and had demanded a trade.
I also heard he doesn't like to pay for meals at local restaurants.

Fidel Astro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:39 PM
  #9
truck
HFB Partner
 
truck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,408
vCash: 495
Quote:
Originally Posted by Holden Caulfield View Post
If Aaron Gagnon is on the roster to start the season next year I will have zero faith in chevy's ability to judge talent. If it's at the expense of Machacek, I would probably be ready to move on to new management, tbh.

If it's due to wanting to save 400K, TNSE needs to get out of owning a NHL team, if you can't afford that to put your best team on the ice, you don't deserve a team.
Why?

Mach is an okay bottom 6 player, but it like he is a perfect fit.

The 3rd line is full.

Gagnon has spent more time playing a defensive role.

Gagnon adds value due to positional flexibility and in the faceoff circle.

Mach seems to be the logical choice and has probably earned a shot, but I don't think he has proven to be anything special thus far.

truck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:47 PM
  #10
Blackie Dammit
proud flatlander
 
Blackie Dammit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Interlake
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,540
vCash: 50
Mach just signed

Blackie Dammit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:49 PM
  #11
Blackie Dammit
proud flatlander
 
Blackie Dammit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Interlake
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,540
vCash: 50
no terms, should be leaked via Dreger shortly

Blackie Dammit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:55 PM
  #12
Gump Hasek
Spleen Merchant
 
Gump Hasek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 222 Tudor Terrace
Posts: 7,369
vCash: 1250
http://jets.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id...id=DL|WPG|home

Jets confirm

Gump Hasek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:55 PM
  #13
Bob E
Registered User
 
Bob E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Winnerpeg
Posts: 3,366
vCash: 500
Gagnon is a career minor leaguer, at best. If he's on the squad I think a lot of folks in hockey circles would be shaking their head, not just Jets fans. But most Jets fans would blindly cheer for the guy and after 20 gms wonder why he's got 0 pts and has been scratched a few gms now. Heck, many thought Flood should play ahead of legit NHL caliber dmen, last yr.

Mach is running out of time to prove himself, imo. Jets will try to keep the exposure to a minimum, in case he can't make the jump full-time, and I'm sure Mach wants a bit of security. Hasn't earned much, so don't see jets being too concerned. Likely waiting to him to 'come to his senses' and sign whatever they've offered. If they've even offered him something.

Bob E is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:56 PM
  #14
Blackie Dammit
proud flatlander
 
Blackie Dammit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Interlake
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,540
vCash: 50
short term I imagine

Blackie Dammit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:57 PM
  #15
Gump Hasek
Spleen Merchant
 
Gump Hasek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 222 Tudor Terrace
Posts: 7,369
vCash: 1250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob E View Post
Mach is running out of time to prove himself, imo. Jets will try to keep the exposure to a minimum, in case he can't make the jump full-time, and I'm sure Mach wants a bit of security. Hasn't earned much, so don't see jets being too concerned. Likely waiting to him to 'come to his senses' and sign whatever they've offered. If they've even offered him something.
He is signed.

Gump Hasek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:59 PM
  #16
Bob E
Registered User
 
Bob E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Winnerpeg
Posts: 3,366
vCash: 500
There you go, he signed.

Bob E is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:04 PM
  #17
Chronos1337
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 86
vCash: 500
Jets sign Spencer Machacek

http://jets.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=641230

Chronos1337 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:11 PM
  #18
sully1410
Registered User
 
sully1410's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Turner Valley, Alta.
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,149
vCash: 50
That's too funny. We were just wondering about him.

sully1410 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:13 PM
  #19
wpgsilver
HFBoards Sponsor
 
wpgsilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,146
vCash: 758
Glad to see him locked up.
I'm not as high on him as some posters here, but he's certainly a nice piece.

wpgsilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:13 PM
  #20
Hank Chinaski
Mod Supervisor
 
Hank Chinaski's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,419
vCash: 264
Alright voyageur, I think you should start a thread about Kane signing. If your last thread is any indication, he'll be signing with us mere hours later.

Good stuff, glad to see Spencer locked up. I'm going to guess and say a 1 year deal worth 650K.

Hank Chinaski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:15 PM
  #21
Potrzebie
Registered User
 
Potrzebie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 923
vCash: 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by sully1410 View Post
That's too funny. We were just wondering about him.
Obviously Chevy takes his cues from HF Boards.

Potrzebie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:24 PM
  #22
Blackie Dammit
proud flatlander
 
Blackie Dammit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Interlake
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,540
vCash: 50
Anyone got his fight with dwyer handy. what a beauty. and the mother daughter combo behind the bench were not to bad either

Blackie Dammit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:31 PM
  #23
vBurmi
Blue-Line Dekes
 
vBurmi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Greater Detroit
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,424
vCash: 5949
If he keeps up the pace of his point streak from last year, he'll be on the top-line in no time

I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do. It's a little hard to get excited about signings now that the season is in jeopardy though.

vBurmi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:35 PM
  #24
truck
HFB Partner
 
truck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,408
vCash: 495
Quote:
Originally Posted by morningwood View Post
Anyone got his fight with dwyer handy. what a beauty. and the mother daughter combo behind the bench were not to bad either
I posted it in here:
http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2012/...hacek-contract

I also wrote a bunch of crap about what we should expect from Mach going forward.

truck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:40 PM
  #25
Diatidialga
Registered User
 
Diatidialga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,040
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Potrzebie View Post
Obviously Chevy takes his cues from HF Boards.
Then where's Kane? We've been wondering since April

Diatidialga is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:55 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.