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09-12-2012, 10:17 AM
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What happens to contracts if the whole season is wiped out?

If we lose the whole season due to the expiring CBA, do contracts that players are currently under just push back a year? (For example, Turris' last year of his 1.2 mill deal would be the next season actually played) Or is that year of their contract 'burned off' (i.e. it would be like they played the season, though obviously the teams wouldn't have paid them), and the next season they would just be one year closer to the end of their contract? I assume its the former, not the latter, just curious though.

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09-12-2012, 10:19 AM
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Pretty sure in the last lockout they slid, so I'd assume the same stands for this season.

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The contracts for this year are burned, they don't shift. If the coming season was the last year of deal signed, then you'd be without a contract at the end of the season, lockout or not.

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09-12-2012, 11:09 AM
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Hmm , 2 replies, 2 different answers. LOL Are you sure HM9? I thought for sure they slid.

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All player contracts in a lockout year count just as they would if games were happening. So yes, you lop a year off all the contracts you’ve noted if the NHL lost a full season.
Source! I couldn't find it on an official website though.
Alfie will need a new contract, everyone will be one year closer to free agency. Hasek signed a two year (though my research says only 1 year) contract with us, but one year was burned, so we had him for only 1 year.
Especially bad for us then, as the lockout occured at the Sens peak performance. We lost a year when everyone was in their prime, and everyone was one year closer to free agency, so they could leave, just a waste of a year by all accounts.


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Hmm , 2 replies, 2 different answers. LOL Are you sure HM9? I thought for sure they slid.
I'm going off what I thought I read earlier, where as HM9 has a source, so I'd go with that answer for now.

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Hmm , 2 replies, 2 different answers. LOL Are you sure HM9? I thought for sure they slid.
I dont think they slide..I'm 75% sure they burn...cause I vaguely remember when we signed Hasek one of his years burned in the lockout...but like I said only 75% sure

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The correct answer is what the CBA says when it is ratified. Odds are a year will burn.

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Source! I couldn't find it on an official website though.
Alfie will need a new contract, everyone will be one year closer to free agency. Hasek signed a two year (though my research says only 1 year) contract with us, but one year was burned, so we had him for only 1 year.
Especially bad for us then, as the lockout occured at the Sens peak performance. We lost a year when everyone was in their prime, and everyone was one year closer to free agency, so they could leave, just a waste of a year by all accounts.
Cool, thanks for the info/answer HM9 !

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Everyone loses this year. No money gets paid and they don't get the year back.

Hasek signed a 2 year deal. It was multiple. The only thing I could find was an old HF thread.

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The last time around, the year was lost.
Check Bill Guerin's comments/advice to the NBA during its lockout.

Not worth it

“It is not worth it to any of them to burn games or to burn an entire year. Burning a year was ridiculous,” Guerin said. “It wasn’t worth me giving up $9 million a year, or 82 games plus the playoffs, then having a crappy year and being bought out. ... Guys in the NBA making $15 million or however much better think long and hard about this.”

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All years burned, fantasy draft for new NHL.

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I'm not 100% sure but I figured that this year would still count as a year on the contract even if the players didn't play.

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Hasek was a two-year deal.

Source -> NHL 2K5

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Hasek was a two-year deal.

Source -> NHL 2K5

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If In doubt, refer to 2K5

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Have more proof of Hasek from THN player bio.


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CAREER TRANSACTIONS
7/31/2006 Signed as an unrestricted free agent by the Detroit Red Wings.
7/06/2004 Signed as an unrestricted free agent by the Ottawa Senators.
2 years in between

Source: http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/...player.cgi?126

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I wonder how eager the owners would be for a lock out if they still had to pay the players salaries while there is a lock out.

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I wonder how eager the owners would be for a lock out if they still had to pay the players salaries while there is a lock out.
If that happened, players would want the lockout and owners wouldn't.

More than likely, if that could happen, there would still be a season and there would be none of this greedy hold out that the league is conducting.

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The correct answer is what the CBA says when it is ratified. Odds are a year will burn.
This is indeed the correct answer.

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I wonder how eager the owners would be for a lock out if they still had to pay the players salaries while there is a lock out.
This doesn't make any more sense than saying 'I wonder how eager the players would be for a lockout if they had to play for free while there is a lockout' . The definition of a work stoppage (strike, lockout, etc.) means that the workers don't work, and they don't get paid (by the owners, though they may make a nominal salary if they are part of a union, paid by the union).

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