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09-12-2012, 10:36 PM
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Bruins-Islanders

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At first thought, I figured over payment from Boston, but Moulson had scored 30 goals 4 years in a row.

Fair proposal?

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09-12-2012, 10:38 PM
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I would've thought the Islanders add, but maybe not. Is he a product of Tavares or not, that's the big question.

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09-12-2012, 10:48 PM
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As and Islanders fan i think we would need to add more

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I would've thought the Islanders add, but maybe not. Is he a product of Tavares or not, that's the big question.
I don't think he is. He has a natural talent for being in the right place at the right time, and having a nose for the net. Tavares helps but he's a good goal scorer regardless.

Islanders can't afford to do this, Moulson is their best goal scorer.

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Krejci

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Moulson



At first thought, I figured over payment from Boston, but Moulson had scored 30 goals 4 years in a row.

Fair proposal?
Do you have a thing against Krecji?

I personally think Moulson is just a product of Tavares. Gamble on your part.

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09-12-2012, 10:53 PM
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I kinda keel like Moulson is good for ~20 goals w/o Tavares. He definitely is a talented goal scorer, but he wouldn't be scoring 30+ goals without an elite player feeding him the puck. He's not completely a product of Tavares, but he's not gonna go out and score 30 on his own, either.

Don't think he'd thrive on Boston very well. They don't really have a pass-first center (and definitely not someone of Tavares' caliber).

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09-12-2012, 10:54 PM
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Krejci is younger, plays the more important position, and has generally had lots of success in important games.

Moulson is a good player and it isn't easy to find 30 goal scorers but I do think that a lot of players could score 30 with Tavares.

So Moulson + a good prospect might do it. Moulson plays very well around the net which is something the Bruins lacked without Recchi. Then again, from all reports, Chiarelli values Krejci very highly and Boston would probably want to get the better player in the deal if they were parting with Krejci, even if the B's had to give up another asset.

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In no way shape or form does this make the Bruins a better team. As for the Islanders I would think they do it so they can solidify the top two center positions rolling with Tavares and Krejci which would be a very good 1-2 down the middle. Not taking anything away from Moulson but I'd rather have a legit 1b/2a centerman who can play both ends of the rink and kill penalties. What it comes down to in my opinion is that Krejci is just a better all around player.

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09-12-2012, 11:13 PM
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In no way shape or form does this make the Bruins a better team. As for the Islanders I would think they do it so they can solidify the top two center positions rolling with Tavares and Krejci which would be a very good 1-2 down the middle. Not taking anything away from Moulson but I'd rather have a legit 1b/2a centerman who can play both ends of the rink and kill penalties. What it comes down to in my opinion is that Krejci is just a better all around player.
I love Krejci but trading Moulson leaves a huge hole in the roster. Without him we don't have a sniper. Tavares is the next best thing but he's become more of a playmaker.

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09-12-2012, 11:37 PM
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I love Krejci but trading Moulson leaves a huge hole in the roster. Without him we don't have a sniper. Tavares is the next best thing but he's become more of a playmaker.
Agree Krejci is the better player but Moulson is the better fit, plus he's a friend of JT and won't be traded. But Krejci is by far the better player.

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Krejci >>>> Moulson.

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how would you describe Krejci's playoff performance? i can see statistics, but from someone who is a fan, what of his intangibles?

would definitely value Krejci more, but given that the Isles are 'seemingly' targeting a coinciding of competitiveness with the year 2015 (end of lease at NVMC), and have some good young centermen, they would be ok with keeping Moulson.

good offer though. they do lack a good 2nd C. Nielson is a great hockey player, but is much better suited to a 3rd line C position.

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09-13-2012, 12:39 AM
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Islanders aren't dealing from a strength here (even if they're shoring up a weakness.) Taking into account Moulson being JT's best friend on the team and Matt also being reasonably signed for two more years, I don't see the Islanders as the aggressor of this deal. (That whole robbing Peter to pay Paul problem.)

Generally speaking, the Islanders need to add roster players without heavy subtraction.

If the Islanders are interested in player swaps, the move would need to greatly improve size, strength and/or goalscoring in their top-6. I'd love to pencil in Krejci, but I think the Islanders would rather move prospects and I don't see the fit unless the Bruins wanted to shed salary. Then it would be something more like Nielsen+ something very good for Krejci, and that only happens if the Bruins have other plans for the cap. Since all we can do is speculate about what the **** is going to happen with the cap or the potential NHL season, it's not worth getting into the subject any further.

Also, FWIW, I don't see Moulson's goalscoring dropping as long as he's given top minutes on another team. Moulson is pretty much average at everything except for his above average hockey IQ and his hands and reaction time in front of the net which are literally among the top players in the game. (He also has a pretty good dry wit which can be fun in the occasional interview.) Moulson's ability to react to the play and the goalie in a short amount of time and finish a play is what makes him a goalscorer. He's got some good hand-eye, but let's not pretend like he has a wicked release, an overpowering shot of any kind, or a quick couple of steps to get open. Moulson isn't bearing down on guys with his strength or dragging players to the net. He isn't using speed to generate chances.

Moulson scores because he can score goals from in close with little time to react (including one-timers from in close.) He's not simply pounding home the puck into empty nets, though he does get some of those opportunities and buries them. He does know how to get open though. He goes to the dirty area. He's willing to take a pounding. He's proven he can stay healthy while doing the job. He's proven to be efficient at doing the job of goalscoring at a high level.

I'd suggest that JT's progression as a player has obviously helped Moulson by giving him a true #1 center to play with, but Matt Moulson scoring 30 goals in his first season with the Islanders also had a hell of a lot to do with just Matt Moulson. Put Matt Moulson next to a lesser #1 center and he's still going to be near 30 goals - you'll simply see his assist totals drop. His finish isn't going anywhere.

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09-13-2012, 02:40 AM
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I really like Moulson, but it seems to me he is the product of Tavares. Malkin with Neal, Giroux with Hartnell etc... Gomez could probably score at least 10 goals if he played on the wing with Tavares.

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09-13-2012, 03:43 AM
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I love Krejci but trading Moulson leaves a huge hole in the roster. Without him we don't have a sniper.
moulson is a garbage collector, AND IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, SHOULD HE BE CONSIDERED A SNIPER.
when he shoots from 25 feet out, goalies laugh at him. but when he tips a puck or picks up a rebound, goalies usually take off their mask and get a drink of water after he scores.

calling matt moulson a "sniper" is just silliness at its best.


krejci would probably be a great fit at second line centre for long island, but id be a little hesitant to do this deal if i ran the looney bin called long island.

i think id do this deal but, man id have to think very long and hard about it.

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09-13-2012, 03:59 AM
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As much as I would hate to lose Moulson, I might have to approve this trade. After this we rob P.K. Subban from Montreal to keep Tavares happy. Oh yeah, not gonna happen.

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09-13-2012, 06:05 AM
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maybe, the bruins are in need of wingers, but NY probably have to add a pick

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I love Krejci but trading Moulson leaves a huge hole in the roster. Without him we don't have a sniper. Tavares is the next best thing but he's become more of a playmaker.
in no world is moulson a "sniper"

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Moulson is a good player and for years I have thought he has been an underrated player, but Boston wouldn't do this deal.

Krejci is a far more important part to a team than Moulson. I am assuming that the idea is moving Seguin to center, but I have to ask, is Seguin at center and Moulson on the wing better in any way than Krejci at center and Seguin on the wing?

I don't see it.

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No way.

Not sure how well Moulson would fit into Boston, plus is DK was dealt I think a better player than Moulson could be had.

Big pass from Boston.

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I don't think Boston does this.

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Man, John Tavares must be the best player since Gretzky. Nobody else in the league can turn average players into perennial 30 goal scorers.

The past three years, Moulson is 11th in the NHL in goals. More than Burrows (who plays with both Sedins), more than Sharp (who plays with Toews), etc.

Why is it that other players get credit for being good, while anyone who plays with Tavares is just riding shotgun?


That being said, Krejci is better defensively, younger and plays center so he has more value. Still, the Isles need Moulson as much as they need a #2 center so I doubt they make the move.

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I think Moulson is more of a sniper than a Ciccarelli/Parrish type. The fact of the matter is, Moulson scores most of his goals with his chest facing the goalie. No, he's not going to beat a goalie very often above the circles with a wrist or snap shot but he has a very good quick release that beats goalies quite often from faceoff dots in.

Its hard to classify him. I wouldn't call him a garbage collector, but he's also not a Kovalev type sniper.

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I could see us moving Krejci in the next couple of years but not this kind of trade, it would be for a D IMO

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