HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > Other Leagues > The KHL
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
The KHL Discuss the Continental Hockey League (Kontinentalnaya Hokkeynaya Liga).

NHL -> KHL Transfers (During the Lockout)

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
09-12-2012, 07:03 AM
  #26
Atas2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,179
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by russianhockeyDOTde View Post
than read this for example:
http://www.eurosport.ru/ice-hockey/k...o3420277.shtml

http://sport.rbc.ru/hockey/newsline/...2/360974.shtml

if you need more, i can post more sources.
Don't mix up "confirmed" with a "Sport-Express" rumor. "Confirmed" means there is a deal signed by both sides. And this can't happen at least until 16th september.

Atas2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-12-2012, 07:10 AM
  #27
Atas2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,179
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by russianhockeyDOTde View Post
When you dont believe me, that read this one...
http://eanews.ru/news/sport/item187246/
Again, you are just picking some rumors. Well, I have this one for you too.

http://yastrebitel.ru/news.php?item.1448.7

Atas2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-12-2012, 10:06 AM
  #28
russianhockey
Registered User
 
russianhockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Country: Germany
Posts: 1,157
vCash: 500
Your source is from 29. August...(about 2 weeks old)
i read this one also, but they are new informations out there.

maybe u r right, confirmed ist not 100% the right word. but when we got that case: lockout, there is a 90 % probability that the players will sign there.

i wrote also the source was just samples, they are much more sources out there (and mostly they are reliable). i try 2 do a summary of all informations we got for the moment, and i wrote also, when i made somewhere a mistake please correct me, i did not say - everything is 100% wright or something like that.

russianhockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-12-2012, 04:05 PM
  #29
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
http://en.khl.ru/news/2012/9/12/24711.html

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-12-2012, 05:09 PM
  #30
Thesensation19
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,413
vCash: 500
If there is no NHL this season, it would suck but I will be glad to know there are leagues overseas. I will def catch a few games online.

Its basically complete but I heard Dynamo Moscow will be playing 2 regular season games in Barclays Center (Brooklyn Nets arena) in January and this will be fun as well. Especially if Ovi goes over to play

Thesensation19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-12-2012, 05:11 PM
  #31
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thesensation19 View Post
If there is no NHL this season, it would suck but I will be glad to know there are leagues overseas. I will def catch a few games online.

Its basically complete but I heard Dynamo Moscow will be playing 2 regular season games in Barclays Center (Brooklyn Nets arena) in January and this will be fun as well. Especially if Ovi goes over to play
yeah, true. If I remember 16th, 17th or so.

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-12-2012, 06:07 PM
  #32
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
I read Kulikov is unsigned in NHL. If he signes in KHL, he should stay whole season. IMO KHL would need to release someone from 25 spots roster before singing Kulikov. Seems he has not valid NHL contract, so rules about NHLers do not apply to him.

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-12-2012, 06:16 PM
  #33
SoundAndFury
Registered User
 
SoundAndFury's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,192
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vorky View Post
I read Kulikov is unsigned in NHL. If he signes in KHL, he should stay whole season.
No, he shouldn't.

SoundAndFury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-13-2012, 01:57 AM
  #34
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundAndFury View Post
No, he shouldn't.
why not? According to KHL rule he has to have valid NHL contract. He does not. So his possible KHL contract will not be automatically terminated when/if lockout ends.

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-13-2012, 08:53 AM
  #35
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
According to slovak media D Jurcina has verbal deal with SKA. Does he have NHL contract? According to EP he does not have it

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-13-2012, 06:47 PM
  #36
SoundAndFury
Registered User
 
SoundAndFury's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,192
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vorky View Post
why not? According to KHL rule he has to have valid NHL contract. He does not. So his possible KHL contract will not be automatically terminated when/if lockout ends.
All the NHL'ers' contracts will contain a clause that they are eligible to move back to NHL once lockout is over. Since Kulikov can be considered as non-NHL'er at this moment he can sign a 1, 2, 3 or 10 year KHL deal if he likes but he won't do that and it's as simple as that. You can add such clause to any contract (reportedly Mats Zuccarello has one in case Rangers decide they need him) and Kulikov will definitely have one.

Talking about Jurcina, SKA could really find someone better

SoundAndFury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-13-2012, 09:40 PM
  #37
VladNYC
Registered User
 
VladNYC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 6,679
vCash: 500
If Kulikov was smart he's sign a really good 2 year contract in the KHL right now. He's in a unique position to get a lot of money right now.

VladNYC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-13-2012, 10:41 PM
  #38
Atas2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,179
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by VladNYC View Post
If Kulikov was smart he's sign a really good 2 year contract in the KHL right now. He's in a unique position to get a lot of money right now.
I don't think it's about money for him or in general. I can imagine older guys and 18yr jld rookies hunting for money, but Kulikov is right now someone who should care about his chievements in sports only. He needs all the competitition he can get for his development. If there's no NHL then KHL is the best option for him, no doubt. But after the lockout all the green lights are on for him in Florida.

Atas2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 02:35 AM
  #39
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundAndFury View Post
All the NHL'ers' contracts will contain a clause that they are eligible to move back to NHL once lockout is over. Since Kulikov can be considered as non-NHL'er at this moment he can sign a 1, 2, 3 or 10 year KHL deal if he likes but he won't do that and it's as simple as that. You can add such clause to any contract (reportedly Mats Zuccarello has one in case Rangers decide they need him) and Kulikov will definitely have one.

Talking about Jurcina, SKA could really find someone better
You can not

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 02:58 AM
  #40
SoundAndFury
Registered User
 
SoundAndFury's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,192
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vorky View Post
You can not
Says who?

SoundAndFury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 03:08 AM
  #41
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoundAndFury View Post
Says who?
KHL rules. A player can not have out clause in contract. He can terminate contract, but can not sign contract with out clause. There are 3 way of terminating contract:
- mutual agreement (player and club pay nothing to opposite side)
- termination by player (he pays some % from remainder of contract to club)
- termination by club (club pays some % from remainder of contract to player)

% depends of period of season (pre-season)
verbal deals are not valid

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 05:03 AM
  #42
Fulcrum
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Toronto, ON
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 2,605
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vorky View Post
KHL rules. A player can not have out clause in contract. He can terminate contract, but can not sign contract with out clause. There are 3 way of terminating contract:
- mutual agreement (player and club pay nothing to opposite side)
- termination by player (he pays some % from remainder of contract to club)
- termination by club (club pays some % from remainder of contract to player)

% depends of period of season (pre-season)
verbal deals are not valid
Wow, Soundandfury got schooled in his first 5 posts lol.

Kulikov, Should, and there is a good chance that he would sign a lucrative contract, but probably for one year. If he's insistent, he could have a mutual agreement to terminate the contract (some KHL clubs do that with youngsters to retain rights later on) but that also means that the club can change it's mind; And he would get less $$.

Fulcrum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 05:07 AM
  #43
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
@plysenkov

Yesterday evening Malkin and Gonchar arrived to Magnitogorsk from Moscow. I expect they will join to "Metallurg" at Sunday. #pens #lockout

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 05:20 AM
  #44
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fulcrum View Post
Wow, Soundandfury got schooled in his first 5 posts lol.
Sorry, I did not know, my apology to Soundandfury

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fulcrum View Post
Kulikov, Should, and there is a good chance that he would sign a lucrative contract, but probably for one year. If he's insistent, he could have a mutual agreement to terminate the contract (some KHL clubs do that with youngsters to retain rights later on) but that also means that the club can change it's mind; And he would get less $$.
yeah, that is the case. There is always a possibility to mutually terminate contract. It happens (Dima Orlov, Kucherov, etc IMO Prokhorkin will make the same soon to be able to sign NHL). Kulikov is speacial case (if has NO NHL contract) because contracts of NHLers in KHL are automatically terminated when lockout is canceled. No will of KHL club for termination is needed. Kulikov has no NHL contract so KHL rules about lockout dont apply to him. He can sign standard one-year deal in KHL, not special contract for NHLers. At least I understand it like this. But he has no guarantee that KHL club will terminate contract if lockout is canceled. Ok, verbal deal can be reached. OR contract is terminated by player (he pays money to club).

Another situation could be if Kulikov has standard KHL contract and he wants to sign new one in NHL (when lockout is canceled). He needs to terminate his KHL contract before singing NHL one. Will he done it?

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 06:07 AM
  #45
russianhockey
Registered User
 
russianhockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Country: Germany
Posts: 1,157
vCash: 500
_________ confident _________________
A. Kostitsyn-> Traktor

_________ most likely _________________
Voynov -> Traktor

source: chelyabinsk.ru

russianhockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 06:27 AM
  #46
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by russianhockeyDOTde View Post
_________ confident _________________
A. Kostitsyn-> Traktor

_________ most likely _________________
Voynov -> Traktor

source: chelyabinsk.ru
Andrei Kostitsyn is the same case as Kulikov - without NHL contract

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 06:53 AM
  #47
russianhockey
Registered User
 
russianhockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Country: Germany
Posts: 1,157
vCash: 500
yes, he will sign a normally 1 year deal, voynov will sign a deal which expires by the ending of the lockout.

russianhockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 06:55 AM
  #48
Russian Spy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 106
vCash: 500
GM of Traktor said that Kostitsyn signed for full season, also as been said above Voynov is likely to join.

Morris can be happy i guess Malkin and Gonchar already training with Magnitka

so the flood gates open, i guess we're gonna have a hell of a season

And i wait for Crosby, i just want to see what he is capable of on the big ice

Russian Spy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 06:56 AM
  #49
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,600
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by russianhockeyDOTde View Post
yes, he will sign a normally 1 year deal, voynov will sign a deal which expires by the ending of the lockout.
yes, btw how many NHLers does not sign new deals? Of course, not young kids, but players who has at least 2 NHL season on their belt.

vorky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-14-2012, 06:58 AM
  #50
russianhockey
Registered User
 
russianhockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Country: Germany
Posts: 1,157
vCash: 500
Malkin / Gonchar already practising with the team, Gonchar as the 9th d-man and Malkin was in a line with Shenfeld / Malinovsky.

russianhockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:01 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.