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LW Toni Rajala - Luleå HF, SHL (2009, 101st, EDM; UFA)

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09-16-2012, 10:11 AM
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Well, thats what I partly disagree, because with he´s style of play, he could be a good player.
What do you mean about the dirty areas? Doesn't go to the net? Well, many snipers play like Rajala play, but of course he should bulk up.

With Rajalas development, probably the biggest mistake was to try to fitt him to the physical play at too early. It´s like you would start weight training at age of 3.

At the moment first of all, he needs experience in a big offensive role to get more experience and confidence in his play with the bug.
Second thing is to bulk up and get more muscle. After the bulk up he should play in North America and get more experience of the NA game.
Well, he is skilled for sure but his offense isnt that good. He cant just dance around defenders every time he enters the zone. He looses too many puck battles. He doesnt go to the net enough. Looks for the pretty play too often. Is weak in the corners.

Normally i would agree with you. No rush to bulk up. But for him its just a must if he wants to be a star player playing against men.


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09-16-2012, 10:32 AM
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In one game he scored one goal, but othervise did nothing.
Here are the highlites of this game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aidXvP4JBgQ


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Rajala is a mystery to me nowadays. I saw his game against Jokerit, scored 2+1, was just plain awesome for whole match, looked very much like Gaborik. Then I check his point totals this season, about 0,4-0,5points per game..wtf?
And here are the highlites of the "Gaborik"-game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67h-udAYqMY

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09-16-2012, 10:34 AM
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Rajala was not the best player of the team. He was the best goal scorer, but Joonas Rask, Jesse Niinimäki ja and Masi Marjamäki are overall better forwards. Few D's were also better.

Still Rajala played a good season. I'd say, that was the light in the end of the tunnel season for Rajala.

Rask didn't even play a full season, can't compare. Niinimäki was close, but IMO Rajala was more dangerous player and got things done. You can't possibly be saying that any player of that D was better, worst defense in the league right there. Only "good" D was Koistinen, and he played half season and he is more of a forward than D, lol (In other words, can't play defense)

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09-16-2012, 10:46 AM
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Well, he is skilled for sure but his offense isnt that good. He cant just dance around defenders every time he enters the zone.
Thats why I think he primarily needs experience in an offensive role with big minutes. He has skill, but lacks of lethality due to he´s inexperience.
And he is good enough to play as a top 6 forward in the Sm-liiga.


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He looses too many puck battles. He doesnt go to the net enough. Looks for the pretty play too often. Is weak in the corners.

Normally i would agree with you. No rush to bulk up. But for him its just a must if he wants to be a star player playing against men.
Yes he should bulk up. I think he normally looses all the puck battles.

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09-16-2012, 10:59 AM
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Hockey's Future has him ranked at a 6.0 C....let's put it this way, Tobias Rieder, a RW as well, is in a similar situation, he's smaller and skilled and had a great season in junior hockey last year, but because of his size, there are some who feel even he is a long shot to ever make the NHL, and he has passed Rajala on the Oilers prospect depth chart.


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09-16-2012, 11:13 AM
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Rask didn't even play a full season, can't compare. Niinimäki was close
I liked Rask more from his first games of the season to the end of the season. While Rajala was surffing in perimeter, Rask got inside the game and got things done more. Rajala is the type of player who you can see only in the scoreboard.
Niinimäki has sick skills, he´s skills are lightyear ahead of Rajalas and Niinimäki is very strong with the puck. Slow skater though.


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You can't possibly be saying that any player of that D was better, worst defense in the league right there. Only "good" D was Koistinen
Jokipakka could also be mentioned.


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09-17-2012, 01:57 AM
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I'd like to see what Rajala does back in North America before calling him a bust. He was over a PPG player in his rookie year in the WHL before he had to go back home to Finland.

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09-17-2012, 03:05 AM
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I'd like to see what Rajala does back in North America before calling him a bust. He was over a PPG player in his rookie year in the WHL before he had to go back home to Finland.
Playing against other kids and playing against pros are two completly different things though. Wasn't Chris Dingman kind of a scorer in WHL as a junior as well?

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09-17-2012, 09:17 AM
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Playing against other kids and playing against pros are two completly different things though. Wasn't Chris Dingman kind of a scorer in WHL as a junior as well?
many players who could score in the junior leagues ended up either as enforcers in the NHL if they could fight and score in junior, or a role player only. the same would apply to kids playing in men's leagues overseas...doesn't guarantee they'll be NHL ready or that they'll even make it to the NHL.

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09-17-2012, 11:31 AM
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Rajalas 2011-2012 scoring would translate into AHL stats as 25g+20a=45p in 80 games.

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09-17-2012, 01:16 PM
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Rajalas 2011-2012 scoring would translate into AHL stats as 25g+20a=45p in 80 games.
that's fine and well, but a big strong, tough forward named J.F.Jacques scored well, points wise, in junior and scored well, points wise, in the AHL, but when he got to the NHL....he was hard pressed to score anything, was on the Oilers 4th line most nights when he was playing at all, and now continues to struggle to play NHL hockey. players playing in Europe, juniors and the AHL doesn't necessarily mean it will equate into a successful NHL career.

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09-17-2012, 04:51 PM
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What is Rajala doing in the AHL? European hockey suits him much better-.

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09-17-2012, 07:06 PM
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that's fine and well, but a big strong, tough forward named J.F.Jacques scored well, points wise, in junior and scored well, points wise, in the AHL, but when he got to the NHL....he was hard pressed to score anything, was on the Oilers 4th line most nights when he was playing at all, and now continues to struggle to play NHL hockey. players playing in Europe, juniors and the AHL doesn't necessarily mean it will equate into a successful NHL career.
Yes, and there's also players who do good in juniors and still do good in the NHL also. There's also players who don't put up good stats in juniors or the AHL and turn into very good players. Give the kid a chance in NA again before we write him off.

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09-18-2012, 09:44 AM
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What is Rajala doing in the AHL? European hockey suits him much better-.
Well he hasn't even shown that to be true. Not even close to a star player in SM-liiga.

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10-09-2012, 03:59 AM
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Rajala will spend the season in ECHL, was sent to Stockton Thunder... I just tell you, he's screwing up his career. ECHL will only make him worse player. Lack of competition and game tactics is bad combination.

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Rajala will spend the season in ECHL, was sent to Stockton Thunder... I just tell you, he's screwing up his career. ECHL will only make him worse player. Lack of competition and game tactics is bad combination.
AHL is so stacked this year, no room for him unless he really steps up.

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11-09-2012, 07:46 AM
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Bump 11 pts in 9 games so far in Stockton on 6 g +5 a. Better ppg average than Brandon Dubinsky.

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11-09-2012, 07:58 AM
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Bump 11 pts in 9 games so far in Stockton on 6 g +5 a. Better ppg average than Brandon Dubinsky.
It's well known that he shines against lesser competition, but I honestly dont think that ECHL will do any good to him. If he cant crack the AHL-roster, would have been better to stay in Finland and play in SM-liiga.

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It's well known that he shines against lesser competition, but I honestly dont think that ECHL will do any good to him. If he cant crack the AHL-roster, would have been better to stay in Finland and play in SM-liiga.
They making him to go through harder route, in the end it will pay out if Rajala want's it bad enough he will succeed on it.

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It's well known that he shines against lesser competition, but I honestly dont think that ECHL will do any good to him. If he cant crack the AHL-roster, would have been better to stay in Finland and play in SM-liiga.
To play on the worst team in the league? Yeah that will do him a ton of good...If anything this little stint will make him a more effective european player in the future if he manages to start to play fearless and gain some strength.

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It's well known that he shines against lesser competition, but I honestly dont think that ECHL will do any good to him. If he cant crack the AHL-roster, would have been better to stay in Finland and play in SM-liiga.
It's not so easy to crack an AHL roster this year, especially a stacked one like OKC. If he keeps producing like this they'll probably have to have a look at him in the A

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It's not so easy to crack an AHL roster this year, especially a stacked one like OKC. If he keeps producing like this they'll probably have to have a look at him in the A
If the lockout ends and Hall, RNH, Eberle, Paajarvi and Hartikainen all head for the big club then he will definately be given an ample opportunity with Oklahoma.

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looks like hes doing pretty good at ECHL 17 points in 12 games good for him

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Bump up to the AHL soon?

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Bump up to the AHL soon?
I hope so. Drop Curtis Hamilton and give Rajala the chance.

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