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09-18-2012, 06:16 AM
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Chicago and Boston-Blockbuster

Hjarlmasson
Sharp
McNeil
2nd

Krejci
Hamilton


Eventual line up

Stalberg-Toews-Kane
Saad-Krecji-Hossa
Beach-Bolland-Shaw
Carcillo-Kruger-Bickell

Keith-Seabrook
Oduya-Hamilton
Leddy-Brookbank

Crawford
Emery

Sharp-Bergeron-Hornton
-Lucic-Seguin-Peverly
Marchand-Kelly-Caron
Paille-Campbell-Thornton
Caron

Chara-Boychuk
Seidenberg-Hjarlmasson
Ference-McQuiad
Mottau

Rask
Khudobin

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09-18-2012, 06:20 AM
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Sharp = Krejci

Hjarlmarsson, McNeil, and a 2nd for Hamilton = quantity for quality

Decent value as far as quantity deals go, but Boston still won't want to give up Hamilton. Pare back the deal to one centered around Sharp and Krejci.

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09-18-2012, 06:34 AM
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Sharp = Krejci

Hjarlmarsson, McNeil, and a 2nd for Hamilton = quantity for quality

Decent value as far as quantity deals go, but Boston still won't want to give up Hamilton. Pare back the deal to one centered around Sharp and Krejci.
More or less this.
If you still seek both, mindful that you have to go far enough over equal value to entice BB to a deal, then what might do it is:

keep in the deal or upgrade Hjarlmarsson,
keep in the deal or upgrade McNeil
upgrade the 2nd to Dylan Olsen
depending upon other upgrades, possible add pick or prospect

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09-18-2012, 07:03 AM
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I don't like it at all as a Bruins fan.

Chiarelli has already said that he won't trade Hamilton, now I know that GM's change their minds, but I really don't think this interests the Bruins.

In order for the Hawks to get Krejci and Hamilton in the same deal I would want Toews. I'm not the GM, but that is what I would want

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09-18-2012, 07:24 AM
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Beyond the Krejci/Sharp swap, I'm not sure why the Bruins would want to go down this road.

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09-18-2012, 07:55 AM
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as a bruin fan i wouldnt do this... its not insulting to me as a bruin fan, just one i would put both thumbs down to though... sorry, dont blame you for wanting hamilton and krecji but i dont move them unless im blown away by the offer and this offer doesnt blow me away

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09-18-2012, 08:13 AM
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Hamilton is Boston's future.

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09-18-2012, 08:36 AM
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I don't think Boston goes down Trade Hamilton street at any time in the near future.

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This is what it takes for us to consider dealing Sharp FWIW.

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I doubt the Bruins trade Hamilton or Krejci.


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No reason to deal Krejci or Hamilton.

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09-18-2012, 09:01 AM
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This is what it takes for us to consider dealing Sharp FWIW.
I'm not sure why you feel that it's necessary to include a blue chipper like Hamilton to consider dealing Sharp. Just a deal based solely around Sharp and Krecji makes a lot of sense for both teams, especially Chicago. You get your 2nd line center that allows Bolland to dominate on the 3rd line. Then backfill Sharp's spot on the wing with the beloved Saad. And don't forget the fact that Krecji is five years younger.

Boston of course makes out well clearing a logjam at center and adding talent on the wing. Overall this would make both teams better, a true hockey trade. For this reason I can't see why either team would refuse even if it did need a tiny bit of tweaking.

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09-18-2012, 09:16 AM
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Krejci for Sharp seems fairish as a basis, but the rest of that package won't get you Hamilton

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I'm not sure why you feel that it's necessary to include a blue chipper like Hamilton to consider dealing Sharp. Just a deal based solely around Sharp and Krecji makes a lot of sense for both teams, especially Chicago. You get your 2nd line center that allows Bolland to dominate on the 3rd line. Then backfill Sharp's spot on the wing with the beloved Saad. And don't forget the fact that Krecji is five years younger.

Boston of course makes out well clearing a logjam at center and adding talent on the wing. Overall this would make both teams better, a true hockey trade. For this reason I can't see why either team would refuse even if it did need a tiny bit of tweaking.
All good points. Maybe it is sentimental but I just don't think we should or need to deal Sharp. Multiple 1sts? Prospects? Hell yeah, we have plenty. But that would not be what Boston wants. Those are the kind of deals we need to make to fill our needs though.

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09-18-2012, 09:22 AM
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****ing brutal for Boston. Krejci is just as good as Sharp IMO.

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I tought this could be good...But I see the usual Chicago crap.

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No from Boston. Would love Sharp but not at the expense of Hamilton. Hamilton is the future and going to be the anchor when Big Z is gone. Its tough to acquire a number 1 dman so pass.

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Something based on Krejci for Sharp could be managed.. perhaps a lil tweaking.. But the rest of the proposal would not happen. Hamilton wouldnt go for that package.

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Good value for Boston actually, which is surprising considering the two pieces they give up. Still can't see them going for it though. I think you have to give Hamilton the chance to come up onto the first team to learn from the chiseled vets on Boston's D. He has the potential to become a very special player in this league.

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I'd rather keep Sharp.

We can trade Hjalmarsson + whatever prospect/picks for a 2nd line C I'm sure.

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I'd rather keep Sharp.

We can trade Hjalmarsson + whatever prospect/picks for a 2nd line C I'm sure.
i agree with this route. i wouldnt trade sharpie

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I think if a combo of Hjalmarsson + picks/prospects (without ridiculous overpayment) lands that 2nd line center. Too many gms would have tried and succeeded at a similar package if that was all it was going to take in my opinion. I don't think it has anything to do with Bowman, I think it speaks more to the market.

Maybe a lowered cap will offer some opportunity.

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I'd rather keep Sharp.

We can trade Hjalmarsson + whatever prospect/picks for a 2nd line C I'm sure.
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i agree with this route. i wouldnt trade sharpie
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I think if a combo of Hjalmarsson + picks/prospects (without ridiculous overpayment) lands that 2nd line center. Too many gms would have tried and succeeded at a similar package if that was all it was going to take in my opinion. I don't think it has anything to do with Bowman, I think it speaks more to the market.

Maybe a lowered cap will offer some opportunity.
This is a nice idea in theory, but us Leaf fans have been trying to peddle a similar trade for a long time now. I know maybe the guys offered aren't equal to Hjalmarsson, but the idea is the same. Trade a 2/3rd line tweener and/or a middle of the pack D-man plus prospects and picks for a 2nd line center. Unfortunately at this time it doesn't seem to be a package that's very appealing to many other teams.

Teams might be more willing to make deals like this towards the trade deadline when there are more defined buyers and sellers. Right now everyone thinks they're contenders and aren't really looking for futures.

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I'd rather keep Sharp.

We can trade Hjalmarsson + whatever prospect/picks for a 2nd line C I'm sure.
Who, exactly?

Cause I've sat through a whole summer of absurd trade proposals based around Hjalmarsson + for a second line C and they have all been terrible.

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This is a nice idea in theory, but us Leaf fans have been trying to peddle a similar trade for a long time now. I know maybe the guys offered aren't equal to Hjalmarsson, but the idea is the same. Trade a 2/3rd line tweener and/or a middle of the pack D-man plus prospects and picks for a 2nd line center. Unfortunately at this time it doesn't seem to be a package that's very appealing to many other teams.

Teams might be more willing to make deals like this towards the trade deadline when there are more defined buyers and sellers. Right now everyone thinks they're contenders and aren't really looking for futures.
True, but you did unload Schenn alone for JVR, I think Hjalmarsson holds similar value to Schenn.

Ribiero went for a lessar package, so it is possible.

I think our prospects are of slightly higher value than Torontos as well, like McNeill, Danault, Pirri, and TT.

I think Toronto is looking more for a #1 C, than a #2. You already have a #2 C in Grabo.

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