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Detroit Red Wings Prospect #26

View Poll Results: Who is #26?
Rasmus Bodin 5 11.11%
James De Haas 2 4.44%
Philippe "Don't Call Me Charles" Hudon 1 2.22%
Ben Marshall 8 17.78%
Thomas McCollum 4 8.89%
Michael McKee 4 8.89%
Andrej Nestrasil 7 15.56%
Max Nicastro 13 28.89%
Trevor Parkes 0 0%
Brent Raedeke 1 2.22%
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09-18-2012, 02:31 PM
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Really only one of Almqvist and Marshall can make it. Just cannot see the need for carrying two d-man that are that size with that similar of traits. Sure I guess if both develop we trade one. Almqvist has a big advantage at nailing that job with the Wings in my opinion as of today and even with him I am not so sure. I understand we are down to the point where we are picking long shots. But big physical stay at home d-man have a better shot in terms of down here in my opinion.

I do hope Marshall improved over the summer, a lot to like about his skating, but not a whole lot else. His shot needs to get much better for him to become that undersized PP specialist. His vision needs to pick up as well. His stick needs to be more active defensively and I think that is really where his NHL dreams have problems. If you aren't going to be physical, you need to be very good position wise and adept at taking the puck away with a good stick. He really to date lacks in both those when I have seen him play at the U.
I have watched Marshall a fair amount and I have no objections to his play with the puck or his vision. I agree though that his defensive zone play needs to continue to get better and will probably be is undoing in the end.

I have a heard time seeing Almqvist making it. At his size, I think you need to be an elite skater to make it as a blueliner. I am not sure that "good" or "above average" is going to get you there.

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09-18-2012, 02:45 PM
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True, but it doesn't change the fact that he is big, physical and mobile.
Pretty much this as soon as I got over the fact Nicastro would never be much offensively you look at the other parts of his game. A lot of the best defensive d-man are guys that were thought to have a ton more upside. But they tailored good skating ability and frame into making themselves an exceptional defensive d-man. I am not sure he will do that, but it could make sense.

Now his talent set was much higher, but Brad Stuart was thought to be a lot more than he really is when he came into the league. We never complained because about the time we got him, we knew what he was. I just think Nicastro's skills and physical nature suit themselves to a pro game. It will be interesting to see how he develops. Not all is lost because of a rough couple years at BU. He still has a lot of raw talent if he accepts what his role should be in the future.

Not to mention people might be disappointed with some of the off-ice stuff. But the signs that he learned from it are encouraging. He showed up ready to work this summer and seems committed to using his second lease on life as it were from the reports I have seen. I also get the feeling by the way he hammers guys on the board and as mean as he has played in the NCAA at times. That he will be more than willing to drop the gloves and protect the crease. We will find that out soon and it might be yet another asset in his tool box.

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09-18-2012, 03:45 PM
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Give big guy McKee some luvin'
Yes, the "long term project" who himself admitted he doesn't have any particular skills except for being an enforcer and wants to work on that for the next few years, should be getting love ahead of players who still have some upside. How does that work?

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09-18-2012, 03:57 PM
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The prospects who are left are indistinguishable to me when it comes to who should be ranked ahead of who. Who cares? Who, you?

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Yes, the "long term project" who himself admitted he doesn't have any particular skills except for being an enforcer and wants to work on that for the next few years, should be getting love ahead of players who still have some upside. How does that work?
When youre talking about upside at the 26th rated prospect, I dont think theres much to talk about. At this point I can see Mckee being the highest rated. His upside is that of one of the tougher players in the NHL and he can skate very well for his size.

At this point, being an exceptional skater and being one of the toughest prospects out there is about as much upside as youre going to get

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When youre talking about upside at the 26th rated prospect, I dont think theres much to talk about. At this point I can see Mckee being the highest rated. His upside is that of one of the tougher players in the NHL and he can skate very well for his size.

At this point, being an exceptional skater and being one of the toughest prospects out there is about as much upside as youre going to get
These rankings will change next year, but as of now, guys like Raedeke, Nicastro and even Nestrasil look to have higher upside an are have developed more than McKee. Yeah he might be able to skate and he seems to have a great attitude, but what seems to be missing is those essential skills to become an NHL player (even a fringe player). He said himself, he wants to work on that and not be and enforcer. I rate other players before an enforcer. But if McKee shows he can improve in other areas of his game, then I'll be the first to vote for him ahead of the other guys on this list.

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These rankings will change next year, but as of now, guys like Raedeke, Nicastro and even Nestrasil look to have higher upside an are have developed more than McKee. Yeah he might be able to skate and he seems to have a great attitude, but what seems to be missing is those essential skills to become an NHL player (even a fringe player). He said himself, he wants to work on that and not be and enforcer. I rate other players before an enforcer. But if McKee shows he can improve in other areas of his game, then I'll be the first to vote for him ahead of the other guys on this list.
See I disagree. Nestrasil was a similar late round pick that was supposed to be a scorer. He has basically proven that his skill has stagnated and it will not develop to a point to contribute in the NHL at all and he has proven that with his lack of development.

Mckee already has the toughness to fill the role he was supposed to in the NHL. He doesnt need to become a scorer or anything and hasnt proven that he is going nowhere. There is still hope for him. Guys like Nestrasil and Raedeke have proven theyw ont be NHLers anytime soon

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