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08-30-2012, 03:49 PM
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Well Milan Lucic took the Stanley Cup to a Serbian social club in Vancouver that his family belongs to. So descent is important to some.

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09-16-2012, 10:01 AM
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You wouldn't, because most of these foreign-born Croatians would be ineligible for Croatia's national hockey team.
KHL Medveščak will most likely enter the KHL next season and its front office is bringing in a lot of players of Croatia descent from all around the world ever since they've entered the Austrian EBEL, some of them already have Croatian passports and they are eligable to play for Croatia. When Medveščak enters the KHL the influx of forgein born Croats could be even greater than it is today.

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Is Jagr Czech or German?
Jäger would be German.

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09-16-2012, 01:42 PM
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Jäger would be German.
No, Jäger would be delicious.

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09-18-2012, 03:12 PM
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KHL Medveščak will most likely enter the KHL next season and its front office is bringing in a lot of players of Croatia descent from all around the world ever since they've entered the Austrian EBEL, some of them already have Croatian passports and they are eligable to play for Croatia. When Medveščak enters the KHL the influx of forgein born Croats could be even greater than it is today.
There are only 2 Medveščak players that have gained eligibility, the new players are not eligible to play for Croatia and will not be until they have played two full seasons in the country.

The better Croatia will become, the less they will need to rely on foreigners. That's typically something that smaller teams do, and if anything it hinders their progression.

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Jäger would be German.
If Neal is counts as Irish because the name might actually be from Neil or O'Neill, then Jagr should count as German.

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09-19-2012, 03:06 AM
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There are only 2 Medveščak players that have gained eligibility, the new players are not eligible to play for Croatia and will not be until they have played two full seasons in the country.
Correct. Do KHL regulations simply call for players with citizenship or for players with eligibility?

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09-19-2012, 04:00 AM
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There are only 2 Medveščak players that have gained eligibility, the new players are not eligible to play for Croatia and will not be until they have played two full seasons in the country.
I'm well aware of the two year rule and there's more than two players who gained eligibility.

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The better Croatia will become, the less they will need to rely on foreigners. That's typically something that smaller teams do, and if anything it hinders their progression.
Without Medveščak there would be no progression at all.

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If Neal is counts as Irish because the name might actually be from Neil or O'Neill, then Jagr should count as German.
Jagr isn't a German surname.

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09-19-2012, 04:41 AM
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I'm well aware of the two year rule and there's more than two players who gained eligibility.
Sertich, Prpic, McAuley, that's three. Plus Kinasewich, but he has left Medveščak. Anybody else?

But by 2013 more players are going to be eligible: Naglich, Zanoski, Waugh, Ouzas. Others too if they get passports.

And I think there is no foreigner restriction for non-Russian teams in their first KHL year, so players who are new with Medveščak this season could become eligible by the time the KHL quota would kick in (2014).

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Sertich, Prpic, McAuley, that's three. Plus Kinasewich, but he has left Medveščak. Anybody else?

But by 2013 more players are going to be eligible: Naglich, Zanoski, Waugh, Ouzas. Others too if they get passports.

And I think there is no foreigner restriction for non-Russian teams in their first KHL year, so players who are new with Medveščak this season could become eligible by the time the KHL quota would kick in (2014).
Hecimovic, Letang (he said that he'll applay for a passport and that he'll play in the future), Powers (he sucks but he played for Croatia already). Hecimovic and Powers aren't with the club anymore, but they gained eligibility by playing with Medveščak and they're playing for Croatia.

Martinovic, Kostovic will be eligable next year as well.

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09-19-2012, 06:28 AM
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Jagr isn't a German surname.
It's as much of a German surname as Neal is an Irish surname.

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Sertich, Prpic, McAuley, that's three. Plus Kinasewich, but he has left Medveščak. Anybody else?
Prpic is retired.

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Letang (he said that he'll applay for a passport and that he'll play in the future),
He has not gained eligibility then.

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09-19-2012, 07:07 AM
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He has not gained eligibility then.
His passport application has been submited and he'll became a Croatian citizen in the near future.

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09-19-2012, 07:20 AM
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It's Jágr, it probably was a german name few centuries ago. However you can't say he's German, there is no pesonal connection whatsoever at this point.

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09-19-2012, 09:39 AM
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It's Jágr, it probably was a german name few centuries ago. However you can't say he's German, there is no pesonal connection whatsoever at this point.
No-one is saying Jágr is German, but his surname seems to be german name that got czechified.

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10-02-2012, 04:45 PM
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Dany Kristo, Habs prospect is also of Croatian descent.

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12-02-2012, 04:29 AM
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what about Lee Stempniak and Kyle Brodziak? Their surnames seem to be slavic.

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12-02-2012, 06:35 AM
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what about Lee Stempniak and Kyle Brodziak? Their surnames seem to be slavic.
More likley Polish/Czech's than Croats...

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Anybody know what's Bo Horvat's backround?

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His passport application has been submited and he'll became a Croatian citizen in the near future.
He still needs to play two seasons on a croatian team to be eligable. Not likely to happen before his NHL career is over.

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07-04-2013, 03:33 PM
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Anybody know what's Bo Horvat's backround?
Czech

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07-04-2013, 03:47 PM
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Guessing or you heard it ? Horvat is typical croatian surname, so I am asking...

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Guessing or you heard it ? Horvat is typical croatian surname, so I am asking...
His cousins surname is Konecny (Konečný), both Konecny and Horvat (Horvát) are typical Czech surnames, I'm 90% sure

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most frequent surname in croatia
Horvat means Croat (today: Hrvat)

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07-05-2013, 01:33 AM
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His cousins surname is Konecny (Konečný), both Konecny and Horvat (Horvát) are typical Czech surnames, I'm 90% sure
Konečny is Czech surname for sure, but Horvat...as Ivan94 said...that literally means Hrvat (Croatian)

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It reminds me that story about some fan yelling "Polak, go back to Poland!". Of course Roman Polak is a Czech, not a Pole. Shved means Swede in Russian and Alexey Shved is Russian for sure. So it can be the same story with Horvat.

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Konečny is Czech surname for sure, but Horvat...as Ivan94 said...that literally means Hrvat (Croatian)
Could be Slovak too, Konečný is a typical surname in both Czech Republic and Slovakia, only the pronounciation is slightly different. Horvát/Chorvát does mean Croat, but it is also a typical name in Czech Republic and Slovakia (hell, even Hungary, spelled Horváth).

My guess would be Czech Republic.

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