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09-17-2012, 01:17 PM
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Oilers would be pretty foolish if they barter him off with his value being all time low, however from what I caught in the AHL games. He is slowly starting to get it together. If he can do that, watch out.
Yeah he was showing positive signs in the playoffs, he also got bigger and stronger this offseason which will help him in puck battles and around the net. I'm hoping that they play him with RNH and Eberle and get his confidence going in full swing.

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I'm a Sharks fan, and I think MPS is more than a spare part...
Yeah I took no offense from your proposal TBH. Clowe is a guy that we could use for sure, however I'd like to see what Magnus can do this year before considering moving him.

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09-20-2012, 10:36 AM
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I'm a Sharks fan, and I think MPS is more than a spare part...

not the point that I was making at all

thats said, Magnus would be a piece of a deal to fill a need in Edmonton

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09-20-2012, 07:44 PM
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I'd love for the Devils to pick him up. He's the perfect young two-way winger with a ton of upside that they lack right now and would replace Elias in the future. Only problem is the Devils only have Tallinder or Volchenkov to offer and I'm not sure that would seal the deal.
I think you guys had this rookie C that pretty much any Oiler fan wouldn't mind having as the teams second line C. I believe he played with Hall in junior...

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09-20-2012, 08:08 PM
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He is currently sitting at Kadri value.

Highly regarded former prospect that hasn't quite hit that next level and won't fetch as much as his team will value him at, so nearly impossible to make a move
He's worth more than Kadri. Even if he doesn't put it together offensively, he's got the skillset and physical ability to be a solid 3rd liner. Kadri is top6 or bust.

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09-20-2012, 08:09 PM
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That Oilers AHL team is a decent look at what their line-up will be in 2-3 years...

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Hartikainen-Green-Paajarvi
Cornet-Lander-Keller
Hamilton-Vandevelde-Pitlick

Schultz-Plante
Marincin-Rodney
Teubert-Chorney

Danis
Roy

Minus Yakupov, Klefbom, Bunz, and veterans
Chorney signed with St Louis, so he's out of the picture.

J.Schultz- Marincin
Teubert- Davidson
Fedun/Rodney- Plante

Plante may of been a AHL allstar, but he's not a first pairing D, he's too slow. Switch Hartikainen with Pitlick and Lander with Vandevelde. Vandevelde earn the spot after his play in the last AHL playoffs. You might see Hamilton jump up to the third line, Nelson seems to like him and his defensive play.

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09-20-2012, 08:45 PM
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Some team would probably give up a 2nd rd pick for him.Not worth anything more at this point.

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09-20-2012, 11:31 PM
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His trade value is probably lower than his potential would indicate.
He's still young, so it would be foolish to trade him.

I could only see him moved as a part of a package for a significant player.

or traded for the defenseman equivalent prospect...

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09-20-2012, 11:41 PM
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The lockout is probably the best thing that could have happened to him.

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09-21-2012, 02:20 AM
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I'd trade one of the thousand depth defensemen Greg from Accounting has signed/acquired over the past year and a conditional pick mid-late round pick to get him in the Avs system. But he's way too unproven to command much more than that on his own.

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09-21-2012, 02:32 AM
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The lockout is probably the best thing that could have happened to him.
I've been thinking the same thing. Him and Niederreiter were both on the fast track to being ruined imo. Although I still don't think Edmonton is the best organization for Paajarvi to be in - just too hard to get the prime ice time with all the talent up front. They should have traded him last year for an upgrade to the backend.

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09-21-2012, 02:55 AM
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I've been thinking the same thing. Him and Niederreiter were both on the fast track to being ruined imo. Although I still don't think Edmonton is the best organization for Paajarvi to be in - just too hard to get the prime ice time with all the talent up front. They should have traded him last year for an upgrade to the backend.
Man I feel glad for niederrieter...I just don't know how to explain my disgust lol.

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09-21-2012, 08:48 AM
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I've been thinking the same thing. Him and Niederreiter were both on the fast track to being ruined imo. Although I still don't think Edmonton is the best organization for Paajarvi to be in - just too hard to get the prime ice time with all the talent up front. They should have traded him last year for an upgrade to the backend.
Yep. Cause if a teenager doesn't put up at least decent numbers in his rookie season, he's ruined.

Dustin Brown
2003-04 NHL: 31 games, 1 goal, 4 assists
2004-05 AHL: 79 games, 29 goals, 45 assists
2005-06 NHL: 79 games, 14 goals, 14 assists

Zero reason for the Oilers to buy high and sell low with 21 yr old Paajarvi, trade him when his trade value is so low.

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09-21-2012, 10:16 AM
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Yep. Cause if a teenager doesn't put up at least decent numbers in his rookie season, he's ruined.

Dustin Brown
2003-04 NHL: 31 games, 1 goal, 4 assists
2004-05 AHL: 79 games, 29 goals, 45 assists
2005-06 NHL: 79 games, 14 goals, 14 assists

Zero reason for the Oilers to buy high and sell low with 21 yr old Paajarvi, trade him when his trade value is so low.
Also look at Joe Thornton and Max Pacioretty as guys who didn't light the world on fire for a couple of years. HF tends to give up on prospects too early unless they are Calder candidates.

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09-21-2012, 11:39 AM
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Yep. Cause if a teenager doesn't put up at least decent numbers in his rookie season, he's ruined.

Dustin Brown
2003-04 NHL: 31 games, 1 goal, 4 assists
2004-05 AHL: 79 games, 29 goals, 45 assists
2005-06 NHL: 79 games, 14 goals, 14 assists

Zero reason for the Oilers to buy high and sell low with 21 yr old Paajarvi, trade him when his trade value is so low.
Yep. Cause no teenager has ever had their development hurt by being rushed into the NHL. Nice example - Brown spent a full year in the AHL after struggling in the NHL, exactly what I think would benefit Paajarvi a lot.

Unless you think that 10 minutes a game with Belanger on the 3rd/4th line is the best way to develop a skilled prospect for the top 6....

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Some team would probably give up a 2nd rd pick for him.Not worth anything more at this point.
This guy has it bang on. His value is about a high 2nd or a bust prospect like Nazem Kadri

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wait til Paajarvi fills out! I still don't know many players his size today that can skate like him. The big four? lets call it the big five.

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Paajarvi for Luke Adam, Gerbe is a very talented midget but Buffalo needs some size.
Luke Adam is exactly the same size as MPS -- both 6' 2, 205 pounds or thereabouts -- and Adam is in pretty much the same class as far as potential, so what motivation does Buffalo have to make this deal?

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MPS for Bernier

MPS gets experience in Manchester as there is no need to rush him

Bernier Battles Dubnyk for #1

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MPS for Bernier

MPS gets experience in Manchester as there is no need to rush him

Bernier Battles Dubnyk for #1
I actually like this, good competition between two young(er) guys in net.

Side note: I don't want to make another thread so I'll ask here.

I don't see Patrik Berglund play much, but by the size/nationality/numbers alone Magnus seems like he's on a similar career path as him. Is Berglund a good comparison/bechmark to base expectations for Paajarvi off of?

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I actually like this, good competition between two young(er) guys in net.

Side note: I don't want to make another thread so I'll ask here.

I don't see Patrik Berglund play much, but by the size/nationality/numbers alone Magnus seems like he's on a similar career path as him. Is Berglund a good comparison/bechmark to base expectations for Paajarvi off of?
The thing about Berglund though is he plays in the middle and can play centre against other teams top lines.

Paajarvi is a good defensive winger, but simply will never have similar value to a centre with a big body that plays a 200 foot game.

Probably similar expectations as far as offensive potential, Paajarvi may even have a bit more pure offensive upside, but I think Berglund will be the more effective player over the long-term.

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As far as Paajarvi though, by the sounds of it he will be playing on a line with RNH and Eberle in Oklahoma City, so if he doesn't get his confidence going playing with those two then I am not sure he ever will.

Hopefully he can start the year where he left off last year in the playoffs and get off to a hot start with 2 young NHL stars.

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Very good rookie year followed by not-so-good sophomore year, which really isn't unusual for a young developing prospect. Let's see what he can do in NHL after another year of development with the Barons. At this point, no reason for the Oilers to sell low on MPS.

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