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09-23-2012, 04:11 PM
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Happy to see Nash tearing it up for Davos

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09-23-2012, 04:37 PM
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Kovalchuk a Ranger?


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09-23-2012, 05:21 PM
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is that Prooks?

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09-23-2012, 05:35 PM
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is that Prooks?
Was just going to ask the same thing.

Just watched the Davos highlights, those jerseys are crazy. Good to see Nash have a 4 point game, 2nd and 3rd goals were pretty.

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09-23-2012, 06:04 PM
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One can only dream.....

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09-23-2012, 06:29 PM
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You bet.

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09-23-2012, 08:11 PM
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No one is saying that these leagues don't have legit fans or followings, but to suggest they are at the level of the NHL is absurd.

KHL is solid, but I think its pretty safe to say an NHL team would beat a swiss league team 9 times out of 10.

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09-24-2012, 12:36 AM
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No one is saying that these leagues don't have legit fans or followings, but to suggest they are at the level of the NHL is absurd.

KHL is solid, but I think its pretty safe to say an NHL team would beat a swiss league team 9 times out of 10.
except didnt the rangers lose to a swiss team last year?

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09-24-2012, 12:41 AM
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except didnt the rangers lose to a swiss team last year?
I think the Ranger's performance was hindered by that being the last of something lie 4 games in 6 days in 4 different countries. But yes, we got spanked. Thankfully that was the only one we didn't win.

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09-24-2012, 01:29 AM
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No one is saying that these leagues don't have legit fans or followings, but to suggest they are at the level of the NHL is absurd.

KHL is solid, but I think its pretty safe to say an NHL team would beat a swiss league team 9 times out of 10.


It's actually 2-2 so far

The Rangers have beaten Bern
Chicago destroyed Davos
Zurich won against the Blackhawks
And then (you might remember) the Rangers lost to Zug

I don't want to say the NLA is as good as the NHL (This statement would be pretty crazy). But the NLA, or the european leagues generally, seem to be seriously underrated on this boards. Scrub league? Seriously?
I know, such kind of statements do not represent the majority, but you can read them quite often.


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09-24-2012, 04:31 AM
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i really wish making nhl ice larger was financially viable... seems like it'd increase scoring ten-fold with all the skill in this league. i don't want it THAT big, but a little bit bigger would be interesting... even if they just started with a few test markets, but losing an entire row of $$ seats would kill small franchises.

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09-24-2012, 12:08 PM
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I know Davos isn't the same thing, and the circumstances and talent are different, but seeing that game makes me want to see Nash and Richards play together when we finally resume. Richards doesn't have Thornton's size, but he has equal vision and creativity

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09-24-2012, 12:22 PM
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i really wish making nhl ice larger was financially viable... seems like it'd increase scoring ten-fold with all the skill in this league. i don't want it THAT big, but a little bit bigger would be interesting... even if they just started with a few test markets, but losing an entire row of $$ seats would kill small franchises.
i dont think it would increase scoring ten-fold, it forces teams into bigger defensive shells with so much more ice to cover. defense is still king.

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09-27-2012, 11:31 AM
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Rick Nash's shootout goal from the other night.


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09-28-2012, 03:26 AM
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except didnt the rangers lose to a swiss team last year?
Game didn't count for anything, hard to really put any stock into any exb match

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09-28-2012, 03:57 AM
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Game didn't count for anything, hard to really put any stock into any exb match
Do you really think the players on either team didn't want to win? Or that Ranger players were going to mail it in because they already had a roster spot? Ya think Tortorella didn't care or would let a player mailing it in off the hook cause it was only a pre-season game?

Sure, in a best of 7 series chances are most teams from the NHL win. But that's not to say it would be easy, even for one of the better teams.

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09-28-2012, 04:04 AM
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I know Davos isn't the same thing, and the circumstances and talent are different, but seeing that game makes me want to see Nash and Richards play together when we finally resume. Richards doesn't have Thornton's size, but he has equal vision and creativity
They could work out great, but Brad Richards is somewhat of a diffrent type of playmaker than Joe T. Joe T is excellent at taking controll of the puck, engage a couple of defenders, and then hitting the open player. Setting up a shop down low.

Brad Richards is more about getting the puck into dangerous areas on the ice, and his work as a PPQB. And every year he put up good numbers, a huge reason for it has been the later mentioned ability.

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09-28-2012, 04:15 AM
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It's actually 2-2 so far

The Rangers have beaten Bern
Chicago destroyed Davos
Zurich won against the Blackhawks
And then (you might remember) the Rangers lost to Zug

I don't want to say the NLA is as good as the NHL (This statement would be pretty crazy). But the NLA, or the european leagues generally, seem to be seriously underrated on this boards. Scrub league? Seriously?
I know, such kind of statements do not represent the majority, but you can read them quite often.
Anze Kopitar and Patrik Berglund is playing in the second tier league in Sweden.

Anze Kopitar has 5 pts in 3 games (and one 1+3 performance, so he has gone without a pt in one game) and Berglund has 1 goal and 0 assists in 3 games. Stats don't say much, they could score well over a pt per game when everything is said and done, but its interesting to see not even at that level are these guys really dominating (as say a junior can do in the CHL/WJC's even).

I think the second tier league in Sweden is by far the best 2nd tier league in Europe (for diffrent reasons, but going by budgets the top 5 teams are basically compareable to the top teams in the SM-Liiga in Finland). But it just shows that the hockey world is getting smaller and smaller the better we learn how to practise and work out basically.

And the talk about mailing it in isn't really in touch with reality. I don't think a hockey player often can give "100%", you just can't work up the adrenaline on a nightly basis to do that. Just look at how the tempo in the PO's increases in the NHL. If everyone were giving 100% in the regular season, taht wouldn't be possible. But the players we are talking about here just don't dress up for a hockey game and mails it in.

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09-28-2012, 04:19 AM
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except didnt the rangers lose to a swiss team last year?
Yeah, but we only lost like 10-2 against Zug with our best players and the score was a bit misleading.

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09-28-2012, 11:11 AM
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I have a question that I don't know if it belongs in here or the lockout thread.... If a player signs overseas for season and lockout ends say, next week, Is he committed to that oversees teens for the entire season, or is there an out clause, or something of that nature?

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09-28-2012, 11:28 AM
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I have a question that I don't know if it belongs in here or the lockout thread.... If a player signs overseas for season and lockout ends say, next week, Is he committed to that oversees teens for the entire season, or is there an out clause, or something of that nature?
As far as I know, most NHL-players over here signs short term contracts, a month at the time, like Erik Karlsson, or have a clause that allows them to break the contract to play in NHL. e.g. Alexander Steen is signed to a "Lockout contract" according to eliteprospects.com. So is Nash.

Is he committed to the oversees teens? well, if there is a ring on the finger I guess

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09-28-2012, 11:34 AM
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Looks like McDonagh turned down a really good offer from a European club: http://www.nyrangersblog.com/2012-ar...ean-offer.html

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09-28-2012, 02:56 PM
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As far as I know, most NHL-players over here signs short term contracts, a month at the time, like Erik Karlsson, or have a clause that allows them to break the contract to play in NHL. e.g. Alexander Steen is signed to a "Lockout contract" according to eliteprospects.com. So is Nash.

Is he committed to the oversees teens? well, if there is a ring on the finger I guess
wow. that was embarassing!!! stupid cell phone "talk to text" features and stupid me for not proofreading....

but either way, thanks for the info.

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nash got a shoulder injury

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