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09-23-2012, 01:11 PM
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Florida: Nick Bjugstad



Montreal: Thomas Plekanec


Ok first of all this trade would only go through at the trade deadline.

Florida would be 1-9 in the eastern conference standings and Montreal would hold position 12-15

Florida get a Good C, two way forward with good speed and playoff experience to try and get them trough the first round. He is also signed to a really nice contract. Florida have good depth at the Center position (prospects) maybe they would be ready to trade one to get better now.

Montreal get a good Center prospect in Bjugstad. He is 6'5 190 pounds and only gonna get heavier. I see him becoming a good 2nd/3rd line center. He would most likely make the team next year with Galchenyuk. Montreal would on go a rebuild but with so may draft picks and good young talent soon to be promoted the rebuild would be short lived.

I know this is alot of ''if and but's'' BUT IF this scenario would come true would either team make this trade?? How is the value??


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09-23-2012, 01:15 PM
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I can already tell this isn't going to go well.

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Not even gonna waste time on this one. Those assets are off the table.

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09-23-2012, 01:17 PM
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Habs fan here

Florida says no

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Who is giving the 1st round pick?

I guess its Montreal.

As a Montreal fan i would do Plekanec for Bjugstad, but not if we have to add a 1st.

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Since he got here Tallon has preached the biggest weakness on the Panthers was size down the middle and growing your own prospects. They aren't going to to trade their big center prospect and a first for another smallish center they already have Weiss.

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09-23-2012, 01:20 PM
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oppps ok let's take out the pick my bad !!! My value was way off on this one

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oppps ok let's take out the pick my bad !!! My value was way off on this one
Doesnt really help, since there is no chance Tallon deals Bjugstad after what he has done in College. He has all the tools to be an elite NHL player.

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Grimaldi seems to be the odd man out in the Panthers center prospect pool.. So he might be available, Hub+Bjug are the untouchables.

Tallon would prolly counter with something built around Grimaldi.

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FLD has no need for Plekanec, and Bjudstad is way more than a "2nd/3rd line center."

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Is today Florida gets ***** day?

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FLD has no need for Plekanec, and Bjudstad is way more than a "2nd/3rd line center."
Say what?

Yeah, he's way more than a 2C... in the NCAA.

People talk as if the guy is a lock to be a 70+ points center before he even plays an NHL game. Heck , he is still a season or two away from even being ready for the pros.

If Bjustad turns out to be good enough to be mentioned in the same breath as Pleks he will have been a successful pick already. But here are folks saying the finished product locked for a couple of years in a contract isn't worth a question mark that may not even become an NHLer.

Its like people forget that prospects seldom reach their ceiling. Not that Nick isn't a good one but about half of the guys hyped end up by the wayside.

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Florida: Nick Bjugstad



Montreal: Thomas Plekanec


Ok first of all this trade would only go through at the trade deadline.

Florida would be 1-9 in the eastern conference standings and Montreal would hold position 12-15

Florida get a Good C, two way forward with good speed and playoff experience to try and get them trough the first round. He is also signed to a really nice contract. Florida have good depth at the Center position (prospects) maybe they would be ready to trade one to get better now.

Montreal get a good Center prospect in Bjugstad. He is 6'5 190 pounds and only gonna get heavier. I see him becoming a good 2nd/3rd line center. He would most likely make the team next year with Galchenyuk. Montreal would on go a rebuild but with so may draft picks and good young talent soon to be promoted the rebuild would be short lived.

I know this is alot of ''if and but's'' BUT IF this scenario would come true would either team make this trade?? How is the value??
I know. I repeat, I know this will neeeever happen. That trade is just Florida handing over one of their top prospects to Montreal for nothing. Wow. Wow that's bad.

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I know. I repeat, I know this will neeeever happen. That trade is just Florida handing over one of their top prospects to Montreal for nothing. Wow. Wow that's bad.
Is this serious?

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09-23-2012, 04:00 PM
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I know. I repeat, I know this will neeeever happen. That trade is just Florida handing over one of their top prospects to Montreal for nothing. Wow. Wow that's bad.


VinnyC summed it up perfectly. Plekanec is what you hope Bjustad becomes. He isn't there yet, not even close.

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VinnyC summed it up perfectly. Plekanec is what you hope Bjustad becomes. He isn't there yet, not even close.
You hope for a bigger, better Plekanec in Bjudstad.

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Say what?

Yeah, he's way more than a 2C... in the NCAA.

People talk as if the guy is a lock to be a 70+ points center before he even plays an NHL game. Heck , he is still a season or two away from even being ready for the pros.

If Bjustad turns out to be good enough to be mentioned in the same breath as Pleks he will have been a successful pick already. But here are folks saying the finished product locked for a couple of years in a contract isn't worth a question mark that may not even become an NHLer.

Its like people forget that prospects seldom reach their ceiling. Not that Nick isn't a good one but about half of the guys hyped end up by the wayside.
What? Bjugstad is ready for the pro's right now. He chose to stay in College for another year.

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Sure, Bjugstad is a great prospect, but Florida fans are acting like Plekanec is nothing...

Though, this is hfboards where prospects are better than actual players and, in good old hf fashion, "it's not even close"

Bjugstad would be a nice complimentary centre to Galchenyuk and Eller down the road. However, I'd sooner keep Plekanec/Desharnais as that centre and deal the other one for a winger.

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What? Bjugstad is ready for the pro's right now. He chose to stay in College for another year.
So he's purposely stunting his growth?

I mean good on him for going through with his education but if he really is as good as we've been told won't he get bored in College Hockey? Wouldn't he want to challenge himself against the best players in the world? I mean if Education was the biggest thing couldn't he just finish up his degree in the off season? I know thats what Cory Schneider did & he got his degree recently.


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Honestly if Bjustad becomes as good as Plekanec I'd call him a success. He might add more physicality, but that's about it. Florida only does this if they decide to start competing now(which they might if they acquire Luongo.)

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09-23-2012, 05:26 PM
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In all truth Montreal is losing this trade by a large margin. If Plekanec is traded the trade deadline would be the best time. By then Montreal would know if they are in the playoff mix or not. And at this time Plekanec would probably return at least a good prospect and a 1st. Bjudstad would be a good piece of in a deal, but not only. Florida fans severely overrate some of their prospects. I think that some more research might be in order. Proven talent is worth a lot more than potential. In this case we are discussing an NHL veteran's value to a good prospect who has never played pro hockey game.


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So he's purposely stunting his growth?

I mean good on him for going through with his education but if he really is as good as we've been told won't he get bored in College Hockey? Wouldn't he want to challenge himself against the best players in the world? I mean if Education was the biggest thing couldn't he just finish up his degree in the off season? I know thats what Cory Schneider did & he got his degree recently.
Went back to compete for a championship and felt it was best for himself. He had a very real chance to make the Panthers, decided to play top line minutes in college.

Pleks is a great player, we just know how big Tallon is on Jugs and how much he's preached patience and growing from within.

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Honestly if Bjustad becomes as good as Plekanec I'd call him a success. He might add more physicality, but that's about it. Florida only does this if they decide to start competing now(which they might if they acquire Luongo.)
Won't the Division last season, we're good without Luongo. You're opinion on player potential, worth, etc. falls on deaf ears when it comes to the Panthers, lol, you think ya know...but ya don't.


If Florida is 1-9 at the deadline, they're not gonna give up one of their top prospects, they'll find other ways to further the push. I have no doubts we'll be there, Reboundo or not.

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In all truth Montreal is losing this trade by a large margin. If Plekanec is traded the trade deadline would be the best time. By then Montreal would know if they are in the playoff mix or not. And at this time Plekanec would probably return at least a good prospect and a 1st. Bjudstad would be a good piece of in a deal, but not only. Florida fans severely overrate some of their prospects. I think that some more research might be in order. Proven talent is worth a lot more than potential. In this case we are discussing an NHL veteran's value to a good prospect who has never played pro hockey game.
Nah, we know Tallon values the kids and won't move em. He's proven it durin his tenure and if (likely will) Pleks requires more, he won't be a Panther.

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The amount of overvaluing prospects and players that goes on here is insane.

Bjugstad is hyped up. Sure, he could be Plekanec, but he isn't yet. He definitely does not have more value than Plekanec, but it makes sense why Florida fans are unwilling to give him up.

It's understandable the Panthers don't need to get Plekanec, but if they were in it for a top player, they would need to give up gold to get gold, and that might just include Bjugstad.

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Won't the Division last season, we're good without Luongo. You're opinion on player potential, worth, etc. falls on deaf ears when it comes to the Panthers, lol, you think ya know...but ya don't.
I didn't say the Panthers couldn't contend without Luongo, simply acquiring him might mean they would be looking to acquire more veterans in exchange for futures.

And I don't know what your expectations for Bjugstad are, but if you think it's likely he becomes better than an excellent defensive player who gets around 60 points a season, I would think you are overvaluing him.

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