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09-18-2012, 07:10 PM
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Toughness? Yes. Grit? Yes. Size? Nope.

It's a common misconception among hockey fans that size makes you a better playoff team. You do need toughness and grit, which is definitely brought by a lot of guys on our team, even if they don't have size.

When games are meaningful, I'm confident we'll see a lot more from guys like Gagner, Eberle, etc.. in terms of toughness/grit.
Gagner will drop the gloves every once in awhile but he doesn't play gritty at all and neither does Eberle.

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09-18-2012, 08:37 PM
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Now that we've got Nail Yakupov,Ales Hemsky's days as a oiler are numbered.




Ales Hemsky=the past


Nail Yakupov=our future
I won't disagree that there's a good chance Hemsky is moved but I'd love to keep him around. Without him who are your top 6 wingers? Hall, Eberle, Yakupov and...? Hartikainen? Paajarvi? How about they prove something before we send Hemsky packing?

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Yes,but most successful teams balance their rosters out with toughness,size,and grit.
We can also balance out our roster's bottom six instead of removing an integral part of the top-6. There are other areas we can address, I'm more concerned with our size down the middle personally.

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How about Lucic,Horton,or Brown?All three,were major contributors in winning a cup for their team.
How about Krejci, Kane, Kopitar, or Williams? They were all big contributors to their respective teams cup wins as well. Hemsky brings an elite level of skill that is hard to replace. He is still one of the best play making RW's in the NHL.

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09-18-2012, 10:30 PM
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Fans here have a short memory. Not too long ago Hemmer was bordering on stardom before a lot of injuries, which by the way he aquired by playing hard for this team and going to the tough areas to make a play. Now they say the problems with his shoulders are behind him. If so I think he can be a 75point player with the talent he now has to play with. The positive from the shoulder issues is he apparently has actually started working out much harder than the little he did before.
A healthy and stronger Hemmer could be a beast to deal with for other teams. I hope we dont trade him.

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09-18-2012, 10:33 PM
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Here is a really good snapshot of Ales Hemsky over his career:

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/pl...2/ales-hemsky/

Personally, he is my favorite Oiler of all-time. I will never forget the game when he scored the game tying goal after Patrik Stefan missed the empty net goal.

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09-18-2012, 10:39 PM
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Fans here have a short memory. Not too long ago Hemmer was bordering on stardom before a lot of injuries, which by the way he aquired by playing hard for this team and going to the tough areas to make a play. Now they say the problems with his shoulders are behind him. If so I think he can be a 75point player with the talent he now has to play with. The positive from the shoulder issues is he apparently has actually started working out much harder than the little he did before.
A healthy and stronger Hemmer could be a beast to deal with for other teams. I hope we dont trade him.
That's what I'm interested to see...how Hemmer plays after a full off season of working out not just his lower body, but his upper.

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09-19-2012, 09:12 AM
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Ok now list more then 3 and which one Edmonton will be getting
The Oilers could go for Ryane Clowe.


I would take Clowe over Hemsky any day.


Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Clowe-Gagner-Yakupov


Looks a lot more balanced.

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09-19-2012, 09:22 AM
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Here is a really good snapshot of Ales Hemsky over his career:

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/pl...2/ales-hemsky/

Personally, he is my favorite Oiler of all-time. I will never forget the game when he scored the game tying goal after Patrik Stefan missed the empty net goal.
I like the chart. Unfortunately with his trend it does him no justice and makes his current market value at an all-time low until he re-establishes himself. Trading him now as people have suggested would be a foolish move in terms of managin assets.

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09-19-2012, 11:20 AM
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Hemsky is the forgotten man in our rebuild, he's entering his prime and if he can regain his old form where he had confidence and swagger we are going to be deadly.

Yakupov, Hall, RNH, EBs, Hemsky, Gagner that's serious skill int he top 6.

I still find it funny we finally got hall rnh and ebs for him to play with and they stuck him with Horc and Smytty last year haha.

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09-19-2012, 12:47 PM
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The Oilers could go for Ryane Clowe.


I would take Clowe over Hemsky any day.


Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Clowe-Gagner-Yakupov


Looks a lot more balanced.
Well adding players without subtracting is easy. Does San Jose make the trade for Hemsky and if they dont who do you trade for him.

Obviously everyone wants a more complete physical top 6 it just depends on price

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This video could have been of Hemsky stabbing multiple fans just trying to get some autographs, and I wouldn't give a ****. He'll always be my favorite player.
As much as I love the Hall, Eberle, RNH, and Yakupov, Hemsky is still my favorite player on the team.

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09-19-2012, 02:13 PM
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The Oilers could go for Ryane Clowe.


I would take Clowe over Hemsky any day.


Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Clowe-Gagner-Yakupov


Looks a lot more balanced.

Seriously, Gagner?

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09-19-2012, 04:08 PM
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Now that we've got Nail Yakupov,Ales Hemsky's days as a oiler are numbered.




Ales Hemsky=the past


Nail Yakupov=our future
you jumped off the Hemsky wagon fast, crazy. Ales is in his prime today with line-mates that can actually finish, you'll be back in the passenger seat in no time.

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09-19-2012, 04:17 PM
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The Oilers could go for Ryane Clowe.


I would take Clowe over Hemsky any day.


Hall-Hopkins-Eberle
Clowe-Gagner-Yakupov


Looks a lot more balanced.
Our team is built on speed and Clowe is slow. That line is anything but balanced.

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09-20-2012, 01:01 AM
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Hemsky is a beast! Let's hope he regains that form he once had and becomes a 70+ pt player again

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09-20-2012, 01:18 AM
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Yeah, not going to lie, I'm kinda and Ales Hemsky fan. Hopefully he can use this time in Europe to hit prime time again and regain his offensive instincts. They're there.

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09-20-2012, 08:07 AM
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Seriously, Gagner?
I would like to get a bigger centerman,but I don't see any big centerman, that are out there,that can replace Sam Gagner.

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09-20-2012, 08:12 AM
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Our team is built on speed and Clowe is slow. That line is anything but balanced.
I really hope our top 6 doesn't get "bulldozed" in the playoffs!

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09-20-2012, 08:26 AM
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Hemsky is the forgotten man in our rebuild, he's entering his prime and if he can regain his old form where he had confidence and swagger we are going to be deadly.

Yakupov, Hall, RNH, EBs, Hemsky, Gagner that's serious skill int he top 6.

I still find it funny we finally got hall rnh and ebs for him to play with and they stuck him with Horc and Smytty last year haha.
He entered his prime a few years ago.

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09-20-2012, 08:53 AM
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I really hope our top 6 doesn't get "bulldozed" in the playoffs!
Blah blah blah. Of the top 6 you stated (replacing clowe with hemsky) we have 4 players who go to dirty areas to make a play (hall, yakupov, hemsky, garner) and two perimeter players (RNH, Eberle). It's funny that since Boston and l.a won the cup every guy like you thinks thats the only way to play. I would like to point out detroit as one of only two teams since 04 to get in back to back finals. They for sure dont have a Horton, lucic etc.

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09-20-2012, 09:09 AM
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Blah blah blah. Of the top 6 you stated (replacing clowe with hemsky) we have 4 players who go to dirty areas to make a play (hall, yakupov, hemsky, garner) and two perimeter players (RNH, Eberle). It's funny that since Boston and l.a won the cup every guy like you thinks thats the only way to play. I would like to point out detroit as one of only two teams since 04 to get in back to back finals. They for sure dont have a Horton, lucic etc.
Please don't include Gagner in this conversation.Whenever he goes to battle for the puck, near the boards,he never wins the battle,and is always overpowered by the opposition.

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Now that we've got Nail Yakupov,Ales Hemsky's days as a oiler are numbered.




Ales Hemsky=the past


Nail Yakupov=our future
And who is our present?

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"Originally Posted by oilersfan
Now that we've got Nail Yakupov,Ales Hemsky's days as a oiler are numbered.
Ales Hemsky=the past
Nail Yakupov=our future"

And who is our present?
Hockey lockout = no present

Hemsky is part of the future and the past

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Forgive my stupidity...

But what happens if this NHL season isn't completely cancelled? Will all these players being signed elsewhere be able to come back to the NHL for the remainder of the season?

If not, that's severely going to alter the playoffs results. As it is, a shortened season will also likely alter the playoff results or even who the Cup champion will be.

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Forgive my stupidity...

But what happens if this NHL season isn't completely cancelled? Will all these players being signed elsewhere be able to come back to the NHL for the remainder of the season?

If not, that's severely going to alter the playoffs results. As it is, a shortened season will also likely alter the playoff results or even who the Cup champion will be.
Players have to honour their NHL contracts. When ever the season starts, the teams will be as they were suppose to be if there was no lock-out at all.

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09-25-2012, 08:36 AM
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I like Hemsky

He played the tougher mins last year while the kids developed.

He played hurt for the last few years.

If he plays healthy and has a finisher on his line look out.

He is a top 6 player! the oilers young guns are looking good and hemsky should fit in nicely over the next couple years.


Hall RNH Eberle - first scoring line
Nail Gags Hemsky - second scoring line
Smyth Horcoff PRV/Jones - tough min line
Eager/petrell Belanger Jones - energy line / defensive line

Add in your speacialist - Hordichuck / Petrell

First Call up - Hart

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