HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > Philadelphia Flyers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

could the lockout help 'Cooter' 14 ?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
09-25-2012, 02:52 AM
  #1
tuckrr
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,572
vCash: 500
could the lockout help 'Cooter' 14 ?

Just reaching for any benefits at this point...

But consider this:
GP--G---A--P---(+/-)
77--13--14-27--(+18) 11/12 Sean Couturier
81--11--20--31-( -6 ) 03/04 E. Staal
Is it possible, that a year to bulk up in the AHL (after NHL exposure) helped boost Staal's strong year after the lockout?


GP--G---A---P---(+/-)
77--26--51--77--(+37) Staal AHL 04/05
82--45--55--100--(-8 ) Staal NHL 05/06

More importantly, could this year off be a blessing in disguise for Cooter?

tuckrr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 03:14 AM
  #2
Krishna
Registered User
 
Krishna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: Canada
Posts: 82,156
vCash: 500
Would help a lot of our prospects including Schenn and Couturier

I just don't see him getting Staal like numbers due to him playing more of a shutdown role

Krishna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 03:54 AM
  #3
dookie88
Registered User
 
dookie88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Germany
Country: Germany
Posts: 2,711
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krishna View Post
Would help a lot of our prospects including Schenn and Couturier

I just don't see him getting Staal like numbers due to him playing more of a shutdown role
It will help Couturier more than it will help Schenn.
Schenn has nothing to prove in the AHL, in his last stint he absolutely dominated. Couturier on the other hand will hopefully really benefit from more minutes in a more offensive role.

dookie88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 09:44 AM
  #4
orange is better
than other colors...
 
orange is better's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 8,192
vCash: 500
I agree with the notion that it will help coots more than it will help Schenn.

Schenn has essentially gotten everything he can from dominating the ahl. He has nothing left to prove there. Couturier, however, hasn't really gotten the opportunity to play a prolonged offensive role at the pro level. I'll be interested to see how he fares.

orange is better is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 09:58 AM
  #5
Haute Couturier
Registered User
 
Haute Couturier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Philadelphia
Country: United States
Posts: 5,972
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by orange is better View Post
I agree with the notion that it will help coots more than it will help Schenn.

Schenn has essentially gotten everything he can from dominating the ahl. He has nothing left to prove there. Couturier, however, hasn't really gotten the opportunity to play a prolonged offensive role at the pro level. I'll be interested to see how he fares.
Schenn only played 7 games in the AHL. That's hardly proving everything he can.

Haute Couturier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 10:15 AM
  #6
RJ8812
Hellooooo ladiiiies
 
RJ8812's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sudbury
Country: Canada
Posts: 26,695
vCash: 500
Cooter

RJ8812 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 10:22 AM
  #7
Viller
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,045
vCash: 500
It did wonders to Jason Spezza's career. No reason to think same wont happen to Couturier. I'm not saying hes gonna be a 90 points player like Spezza but it will help his offensive skills thats for sure.

Viller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 10:33 AM
  #8
RevUpThoseGolfCarts
Experts at losing
 
RevUpThoseGolfCarts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: United States
Posts: 1,811
vCash: 500
Cooter is such a dirty sounding name.

RevUpThoseGolfCarts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 10:34 AM
  #9
tuckrr
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,572
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viller View Post
It did wonders to Jason Spezza's career. No reason to think same wont happen to Couturier. I'm not saying hes gonna be a 90 points player like Spezza but it will help his offensive skills thats for sure.
That's why I think Cooter could benefit so much...if his offensive game takes off, he will be one of the most valuable players in the league.

tuckrr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 10:35 AM
  #10
Broad Street Elite
Registered User
 
Broad Street Elite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,419
vCash: 500
There's 3 huge things that he would get from the AHL:
  1. Another year of physical growth (which he'd get anywhere).
  2. Appropriate offensive opportunities, which our offseason acquisitions (or lack there of) at the NHL level would have precluded.
  3. Stamina. He needs to play more significant total minutes (16-17 at least) in all situations.

The better comparison as far as a player goes (to me).

Bergeron (NHL - '04-'05) - 71Games 16G 23A 39P
Bergeron (AHL - '05 -'06) - 68Games 21G 40A 61P
Bergeron (NHL - '06-'07) - 81Games 31G 42A 73P

I'd take that kind of progression every day of the week, especially if it isn't followed with the career altering concussions from a **** NHL defenseman like Randy Jones.

Broad Street Elite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 01:09 PM
  #11
RJ8812
Hellooooo ladiiiies
 
RJ8812's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Sudbury
Country: Canada
Posts: 26,695
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevUpThoseGolfCarts View Post
Cooter is such a dirty sounding name.
just as stupid as "cannon"

I swear to god, people on HF boards come up with the dumbest player nicknames

RJ8812 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 01:14 PM
  #12
flountown
Registered User
 
flountown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Philadelphia
Country: United States
Posts: 1,366
vCash: 500
I definitely think that Couturier could use this year to do more offensively, he won't have many offensive players ahead of him on the depth chart at the Phantoms.

flountown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 02:18 PM
  #13
ilovetheflyers8
Registered User
 
ilovetheflyers8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: D.C.
Country: French Guiana Independentist
Posts: 4,892
vCash: 500
Though he would get paid less, I think Schenn should go to Europe. He'll have a job waiting for him back in the U.S. later this year or next and he can probably get paid to live in Europe as a 21 year old. The competition in the SEL (if they decided to allow NHL players) or the SM-Liga is probably above the AHL or at least equal if it is a bad team. This is more of a what I would do thing, rather than what would be better for his development, though I can't see going to either of those leagues hurting him.He could also play in the KHL if a team will sign him because he played in one of the last two World Juniors. However, I don't see a KHL team being super excited about signing a non-native 18 point scorer with a lot of potential who won't be around for more than a year, but I could be entirely wrong.


Last edited by ilovetheflyers8: 09-25-2012 at 02:32 PM.
ilovetheflyers8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 02:28 PM
  #14
RussianRocket10
Registered User
 
RussianRocket10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Country: Brazil
Posts: 4,444
vCash: 500
I thought it was Couts not Cooter?

RussianRocket10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 05:05 PM
  #15
flountown
Registered User
 
flountown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Philadelphia
Country: United States
Posts: 1,366
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovetheflyers8 View Post
Though he would get paid less, I think Schenn should go to Europe. He'll have a job waiting for him back in the U.S. later this year or next and he can probably get paid to live in Europe as a 21 year old. The competition in the SEL (if they decided to allow NHL players) or the SM-Liga is probably above the AHL or at least equal if it is a bad team. This is more of a what I would do thing, rather than what would be better for his development, though I can't see going to either of those leagues hurting him.He could also play in the KHL if a team will sign him because he played in one of the last two World Juniors. However, I don't see a KHL team being super excited about signing a non-native 18 point scorer with a lot of potential who won't be around for more than a year, but I could be entirely wrong.
While he would play different people, I'd rather have him over here with our staff and development team, palying North American style hockey, rather than playing a wide open Euro style...

flountown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-25-2012, 05:47 PM
  #16
tuckrr
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,572
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RevUpThoseGolfCarts View Post
Cooter is such a dirty sounding name.
kind of like Ruiz...chooch came from chucha, but chooch is slang for *****

like was said above "less teeth = more tongue"

tuckrr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:17 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.