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09-25-2012, 06:36 PM
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Exactly! That was such a sick pass

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09-25-2012, 06:38 PM
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Yeah surprising it isn't in any of the Granlund highlight videos.

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09-25-2012, 07:05 PM
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We have a non-believer among us!

Actually they're all good points. But still....shun the non-FBJ believer!

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09-25-2012, 07:28 PM
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We have a non-believer among us!

Actually they're all good points. But still....shun the non-FBJ believer!
<yawn> Folks are beginning to become unhinged by the lockout. Sad, really.

Typical bait and switch, really. Big old FAIL sell-line. . .then you read, and it is failing at being an offensive savior for years to come, with the author concluding he may "only" be our Saku Koivu. Yikes, how horrible would that be! FAIL, indeed.

Most of the people I see using "Finnish Baby Jesus" are doing so with tongue in cheek, actually trying to puncture the hotair balloons of those --very few-- who've already annointed Granlund as the next Crosby.

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09-25-2012, 07:36 PM
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Btw, how many forwards 5-10 or under were there in the NHL last year? If you're going to try to do that math, shouldn't you be doing it proportionally? Maybe there were a higher proportion of 50pt scorers at 5'-10" or lower than there were 50 pt scorers at 5'-11" or higher? When I say proprortional, I mean vs total population of 5'-10" or under players, and vs total population of 5'11" or taller players.

I actually don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me if that turned out to be true, for the simple fact that you *better* be good if you're smaller, and I think it likely the great mediocre mass was mostly taller than 5'-10", pulling down the proportion for those guys (and that way I get to stick the Granlund haters with the enforcers, grinders and agitators to pull down their average --see what I did there?)

Actually, if we're going to get all anal about it, let's get a spread of proportional heights vs goal-scoring, and see where the fall-off points are. Who's to say that the inch between 5'10" and 5'11" is the important one? Maybe it's the inch between 5'10" and 5'9" that *really* matters (yes, that's me trying to steal Sid and Kane back to Granlund's side).


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09-25-2012, 07:41 PM
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FBJ is most definitely tongue-in-cheek. I for one never though he was a saviour. I've been stoked we have (probably) a legitimate pair of top six centers for the next six years or so...Isn't that enough? As long as Yeo's system and team has a Granlund-shaped hole and he's around to fit it the team is going to be better off than if we had a superstar talent forward (or three) who don't know how to play nicely with one another. Oilers should have been in the playoffs at least this year. next year, even, most people don't have them in it. why the **** not? because the kids can't play together. Granlund from what i've gathered is a team guy. Call him complimentary if you want, but the Oilers don't have one of those guys and look where it's got them. We have some up and coming firepower that isn't nearly as potent as what the Oilers can bring, but our aim will be a lot better.

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09-25-2012, 07:57 PM
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That game was sooo a Pasi Nurminen win though Goalie coach who did the homework on the swedish goalie Fasth who is a very good goalie but just can't take those long pucks and dump ins.

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09-25-2012, 08:21 PM
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Oilers should have been in the playoffs at least this year. next year, even, most people don't have them in it. why the **** not? because the kids can't play together. Granlund from what i've gathered is a team guy. Call him complimentary if you want, but the Oilers don't have one of those guys and look where it's got them. We have some up and coming firepower that isn't nearly as potent as what the Oilers can bring, but our aim will be a lot better.
Absolutely agree that the Oil should be further along, and it is a testament that a team is more than the sum of its parts. . . I agree with drafting the best available, but then you make the trades you need to make (you just have better assets to do it with).

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09-25-2012, 08:37 PM
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I think he was being considered more the 'savior' type before July 4th. Now he definitely won't be held to the standards he might have if we hadn't made the signings.

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09-25-2012, 08:44 PM
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I think he was being considered more the 'savior' type before July 4th. Now he definitely won't be held to the standards he might have if we hadn't made the signings.
You're probably right. . . and how ridiculous is it that talent-assessment should depend on wish-fulfillment?

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09-25-2012, 10:09 PM
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Umm...the article makes a huge deal about: "It could be argued that if he grew an extra inch, he would be in much better company amongst Sidney Crosby and Patrick Kane" except, you know, Patrick Kane is 5'10" and therefore already in the category listed. In addition to Kane, his "list of players 5'10" or shorter who score 50 points" is missing some other names. Plekanec - 5'10" - 52 points, Wellwood - 5'10" - 47 points (on pace for 50), Cammaleri - 5'9" - 41 points (on pace for 51), Briere - 5'10" - 49 points (on pace for 57) among others. That's just the players at or on pace for 50 points last season. If you look at other years, you'll have another set of names similar to that.

Furthermore, that "magical 5'11" height" isn't for Kane and Crosby. It seems the majority of big time scorers in the league are 5'11". Sure there's Crosby, but there's Giroux, Parise, and a ton of others. There's quite a few 6' guys as well, but there's very few taller than that mark who put up serious points.

Glancing through the rest of the article, a lot is made about the "big rinks in Europe" with no mention of the fact that rinks are non-standardized. In fact, if I recall correctly, isn't HIFK's rink basically the same size as an NHL rink?

But I guess we'll all have to suffer through watching the next 1000 game playing, (nearly) 250 goal scoring, (nearly) 800 point earning, Saku Koivu clone.

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09-25-2012, 10:34 PM
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yeah i was going to say...Saku was considered franchise in montreal. at least he was loved as a franchise player.

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09-26-2012, 12:12 AM
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09-26-2012, 12:25 AM
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Barkov vs Granlund? What?

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09-26-2012, 12:29 AM
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Either way, Finland's prospects pale in comparison to Sweden's.

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obviously we need to draft Barkov next year and trade Granlund


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