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09-24-2012, 08:50 AM
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During a 7-year stretch in the NHL, Dan Quinn did not play consecutive seasons with a single franchise.

'90-'91: Vancouver/St. Louis
'91-'92: Philadelphia
'92-'93: Minnesota
'93-'94: Ottawa
'94-'95: Los Angeles
'95-'96: Ottawa/Philadelphia
'96-'97: Pittsburgh

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Wow, I'd be surprised if there's anyone who comes even close to that.

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09-24-2012, 11:08 AM
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During a 7-year stretch in the NHL, Dan Quinn did not play consecutive seasons with a single franchise.

'90-'91: Vancouver/St. Louis
'91-'92: Philadelphia
'92-'93: Minnesota
'93-'94: Ottawa
'94-'95: Los Angeles
'95-'96: Ottawa/Philadelphia
'96-'97: Pittsburgh
According to Wikipedia you left out stints with SC Bern, EV Zug and the Detroit Vipers during that same time span. That's twelve stints with ten different professional teams in seven seasons. Quite amazing.

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Over that time span he played 328 games while switching teams, and towns, on average every 27 games.

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Wow, I'd be surprised if there's anyone who comes even close to that.
Randy Robitaille came awfully close--had a seven-season NHL stretch where he never played more than 81 games with a single team:

'00-'01: Nashville
’01-’02: LA/Pittsburgh
’02-’03: Pittsburgh/NYI
’03-’04: Atlanta
’04-’05: [lockout]
’05-’06: Minnesota
’06-’07: Philadelphia/NYI
‘07-’08: Ottawa

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not exactly the same....but damn,,,,,thats alot of jerseys!

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Brent Ashton had a good run. I know a few players in the last few years of the careers changed team yearly

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Thats actually pretty crazy

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09-24-2012, 07:45 PM
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i looked up the usual suspects: michel petit, mike silinger, brent ashton; coffey, guerin, and recchi at the end of their careers, and each of them either stuck with the odd team for more than a year or his suitcase phase wasn't long enough.

closest i can think of is tikkanen:

1993-94 29 NYR NHL 83 22 32 54 21 5 114 14 5 3 4 257 8.6
1994-95 30 STL NHL 43 12 23 35 13 13 22 5 5 2 1 107 11.2
1995-96 31 TOT NHL 58 14 30 44 16 1 36 5 8 1 2 95 14.7
1995-96 31 STL NHL 11 1 4 5 2 1 18 0 0 1 0 19 5.3
1995-96 31 NJD NHL 9 0 2 2 1 -6 4 0 0 0 0 15 0.0
1995-96 31 VAN NHL 38 13 24 37 14 6 14 5 8 0 2 61 21.3
1996-97 32 TOT NHL 76 13 17 30 12 -9 72 7 4 2 2 133 9.8
1996-97 32 VAN NHL 62 12 15 27 11 -9 66 7 4 1 2 103 11.7
1996-97 32 NYR NHL 14 1 2 3 1 0 6 0 0 1 0 30 3.3
1997-98 33 TOT NHL 48 3 18 21 7 -11 18 2 1 0 2 67 4.5
1997-98 33 FLA NHL 28 1 8 9 3 -7 16 1 0 0 0 34 2.9
1997-98 33 WSH NHL 20 2 10 12 4 -4 2 1 1 0 2 33 6.1
1998-99 34 NYR NHL 32 0 3 3 1 -5 38 0 0 0 0 25 0.0


man, dan quinn... what a crappy poor man's huselius of a player. i still can't believe we got courtnall, ronning, and momesso for him and garth butcher.


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09-24-2012, 08:51 PM
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During a 7-year stretch in the NHL, Dan Quinn did not play consecutive seasons with a single franchise.

'90-'91: Vancouver/St. Louis
'91-'92: Philadelphia
'92-'93: Minnesota
'93-'94: Ottawa
'94-'95: Los Angeles
'95-'96: Ottawa/Philadelphia
'96-'97: Pittsburgh
I still find it incredible Quinn wore the C in Vancouver. Part of a rotation with Trevor Linden and Doug Lidster.

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maybe he played for so many teams because he is a good golfer?

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man, dan quinn... what a crappy poor man's huselius of a player. i still can't believe we got courtnall, ronning, and momesso for him and garth butcher.
If I remember correctly, that entire package was basically for Garth Butcher. But Pat Quinn then somehow coerced the Blues into taking the worse-than-worthless Dan Quinn off our hands as well. That trade is still mind-boggling.

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If I remember correctly, that entire package was basically for Garth Butcher. But Pat Quinn then somehow coerced the Blues into taking the worse-than-worthless Dan Quinn off our hands as well. That trade is still mind-boggling.
i remember brian sutter's new blues going rough and tumble with stevens and butcher, but i have no recollection of dan quinn having negative value. i believe it, though.

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i remember brian sutter's new blues going rough and tumble with stevens and butcher, but i have no recollection of dan quinn having negative value. i believe it, though.
I remember hearing the same story - that the package we got was essentially for Butcher only, and P. Quinn forced Ron Caron to take D. Quinn as part of the deal.

Back on topic, Dominic Moore has been traded mid-season in 5 of the last 6 years, broken only by a full season with TB in 2010-11.

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Wow, Quinn must have been something else to be just a “throw-in” for that package (didn’t see Vancouver much those days, being a 11 years old Habs fan in Toronto). Plus, you’d think St.Louis would have been desperate for secondary scoring, if they were moving out Courtnall.

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I don't recall him being all that crappy. Basically, in an ideal world, he was an okay, play-making, 2nd line center. Often the problem was that teams with no depth (such as Vancouver) would play him on the 1st line.

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If I remember correctly, that entire package was basically for Garth Butcher. But Pat Quinn then somehow coerced the Blues into taking the worse-than-worthless Dan Quinn off our hands as well. That trade is still mind-boggling.
I recently read a newspaper article about the trade and there was definitely a widespread rumor in the media that the Blues only wanted Butcher, and that throwing in Quinn was Vancouver's idea.

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I don't recall him being all that crappy. Basically, in an ideal world, he was an okay, play-making, 2nd line center. Often the problem was that teams with no depth (such as Vancouver) would play him on the 1st line.
Quinn clearly had plenty of talent, and he was considered one of the better powerplay centers at the time.

But he was just disastrous defensively and had a horrible reputation for sulking and lazy play in Vancouver. The talk at the time was that Dan Quinn was poisoning the whole locker room, though it's tough to figure out how much of that was Quinn's fault and how much the fact that the Canucks were struggling in general. It didn't help that Quinn was one of the team's highest-paid players, either.

Via Nexis, here's what Brian Burke said about Dan Quinn after the trade, though keep in mind it's Brian Burke: ''He's a quiet kid and a moody kid. I'm glad we got him out of here. We were starting to worry about his effect on some younger players. I don't think he wanted to play here or anywhere in Canada. If I was general manager of a Canadian team, I wouldn't want him."


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I recently read a newspaper article about the trade and there was definitely a widespread rumor in the media that the Blues only wanted Butcher, and that throwing in Quinn was Vancouver's idea.
i'd love to read that if you've got a link.


and so long as we're dragging dan quinn's name through the mud:

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A law-enforcement official and an official with the National Hockey League say that Pittsburgh Penguins star Mario Lemieux was present when Dan Quinn of the Minnesota North Stars allegedly ***** a woman last week.

The Star Tribune of Minneapolis reported that both officials said the woman was attacked early Tuesday in Lemieux's room at the Marriott Hotel in Bloomington, Minn.

Quinn was arrested on **** charges Tuesday.

The officials also said Lemieux was there during the attack. He has not been charged.
(the *** word rhymes with "cape")

http://articles.philly.com/1992-11-1...madrid-charges



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Dan Quinn of the Minnesota North Stars, who was accused of ****** a 19-year-old woman, will not face charges in the case, according to a report today. The team announced that it had released Quinn for violating team rules, but it would not comment on whether the action was related to the allegations.

Prosecutors and the police could not be reached for immediate comment. But WCCO-TV and radio station WCCO quoted Quinn's lawyer, Mike Colich, as saying that prosecutors told him Quinn would not be charged in connection with the incident.

Quinn, 27 years old, was accused of ****** the woman Nov. 10 in a room at a Bloomington hotel. Quinn was arrested in connection with the alleged assault but freed on $30,000 bond. He has maintained that he and the woman had sex, but that it was consensual.

Pat Forciea, a North Stars spokesman, would not specify what rules Quinn had violated. "Dan had a special agreement with the North Stars," General Manager Bob Gainey said in a statement.
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/25/sp...e-dropped.html

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i'd love to read that if you've got a link.


and so long as we're dragging dan quinn's name through the mud:



(the *** word rhymes with "cape")

http://articles.philly.com/1992-11-1...madrid-charges



charges were later dropped:



http://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/25/sp...e-dropped.html
That was part of a book Roy MacGregor wrote about the 1992-93 season: Road Games: A Year in the Life of the NHL

Excerpt from the cover:

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... This was the season that Mario Lemieux's involvement in a sordid scandal was forgotten when he overcame cancer to win the scoring title ...
Now I haven't read the book, so don't know what detail he goes into, but obviously it was big enough to be mentioned on the cover of a book detailing that season.

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The **** charge really brought stigma:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=1308,6222159

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I couldn't find any primary articles about Vancouver insisting St Louis take Quinn with a quick search, but Garth Butcher's wikipedia page does say this:

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Late in the 1990–91 season, the St. Louis Blues were in first place overall and GM Ron Caron was looking to improve the team's defence for the playoffs. On March 5, 1991, at the trade deadline, Caron traded four players and 1992 fifth-round pick (Brian Loney) to Vancouver for Butcher and Dan Quinn, a small but skilled centre. Butcher was the key player for the Blues, with Quinn added due to the Canucks hard negotiating. The Blues traded away Geoff Courtnall, Robert Dirk, Sergio Momesso, Cliff Ronning – who as a group invigorated the Canucks for a number of years and eventually helped their new team advance to the 1994 Stanley Cup Final.

The Butcher trade helped the Canucks but cost Butcher's new team dearly. Traded away such depth cost the Blues a second scoring line behind Brett Hull and Adam Oates. As a result, the trade was blamed for the Blues defeat at the hands of the Minnesota North Stars in the second round of the playoffs. (The Stars would make it all the way to the Finals). Quinn was gone from the team shortly after the playoff disappointment. The Butcher trade (together with a later lopsided deal favoring the Canucks) was regarded by media and fans as one of the top 5 heartbreakers for the St. Louis Blues.[10]

Butcher was expected to provide leadership. He was named team captain, but a broken left foot cost him the end of the 1991–92 NHL season and the start of the playoffs. After the Blues were eliminated, Butcher was selected to the national team for the 1992 Ice Hockey World Championships. He played three games and scored a goal. The team placed eighth.

Butcher played in the NHL All-Star Game in 1993, but as an injury replacement for Jeff Brown. The same year, Butcher scored a rare goal, the game-winner, against the Toronto Maple Leafs in Game 3 of the 1993 Norris Division Finals.[11]
However, this article from shortly after the trade has Caron praising Quinn:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...=986,722936&dq

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There was a career minor leaguer I remember, who had, since juniors, played on like 25 different teams in a 10 year span, or something like that. Can't remember his name but check this guy out.

Don Martin
D - 6' / 210 lbs.
Edmonton 5th round pick 1988

JRS
1985-86 North Bay Centennials OHL
1985-86 London Knights OHL

1986-87 London Knights OHL

1987-88 London Knights OHL

PRO
1988-89 Cape Breton Oilers AHL
1988-89 Fort Wayne Komets IHL

1989-90 Phoenix Roadrunners IHL

1990-91 Winston-Salem Thunderbirds ECHL
1990-91 Richmond Renegades ECHL

1991-92 Brantford Smoke CoHL

1992-93 Chatham Wheels CoHL
1992-93 Muskegon Fury CoHL

1993-94 St. Thomas Wildcats CoHL (player / asst coach)
1993-94 Muskegon Fury CoHL

1994-95 Rochester Americans AHL
1994-95 Milwaukee Admirals IHL
1994-95 Utica Blizzard CoHL

1995-96 Utica Blizzard CoHL (player / head coach)

1996-97 Utica Blizzard CoHL (head coach exclusively)

1997-98 Peiting EC Ger.1
1997-98 Port Huron Border Cats UHL

1998-99 Corpus Christi Icerays WPHL

1999-00 Mohawk Valley Prowlers UHL
1999-00 Madison Kodiaks UHL

2000-01 Memphis Riverkings CHL
2000-01 Anchorage Aces WCHL
2000-01 Mohawk Valley Prowlers UHL

2001-02 Memphis Riverkings CHL

2002-03 Anchorage Aces WCHL
2002-03 Cape Fear Fire Antz ACHL

2003-04 Richmond Riverdogs UHL (assistant coach exclusively)

2004-05 Richmond Riverdogs UHL (head coach exclusively)

ROLLER HOCKEY
1993 Florida Hammerheads RHI

1994 Philadelphia Bulldogs RHI

1995 Philadelphia Bulldogs RHI

1996 Philadelphia Bulldogs RHI

1997 Montreal Roadrunners RHI
1997 New Jersey Rockin' Rollers RHI

1998 Port Huron North Americans MLRH
1998 Columbus Hawks MLRH


TOTALS

PRO
15 years
20 different teams
10 different leagues
3 different countries
10 different states
2 different provinces

JRS
3 years
2 different teams

ROLLER HOCKEY
6 years
6 different teams
2 different leagues

COACH
5 years
3 different teams
2 different leagues

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Quinn was, arguably, a symptom of a serious Canucks malaise at the time. We never had a center that could compete with the elite centers of the time. We kept facing Gretzky, Messier, Otto and Hawerchuk and all we could trot out was Pederson, Gradin, Quinn and Bradley. Consequently we usually got killed. One of our biggest draft busts, Libor Polasek (who we picked ahead of Tkachuk and Brodeur), was a failed attempt to remedy that problem.

It wasn't 'til Linden showed up (and he was a better winger than center) that we had a good, big guy that we could ice against another team's top center. And, at crucial moments, we still ended up hanging our 1st line hats on guys like Ronning and Morrison, who were really 2nd line centers.

Hank and Kesler are better centers than we've ever had, and fortunately, we have them both at the same time. I would have loved to have had players of that caliber instead of Quinn.

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Trevor Jobe - 38 different teams / 15 different leagues / 20 yrs
- 5 different jr teams / 4 different countries
- 1992-93 - Nashville Knights (ECHL) 61 games / 85-76-161 / 222 PIMs

Mike Hiebert - 13 different teams / 6 different leagues / 7 yrs
Simon Olivier - 14 different teams / 10 different leagues / 18 yrs (2000-01 - 4 different teams/3 different leagues)
Mel Angelstad - 19 different teams / 10 different leagues / 16 yrs (2 NHL games w/ the Caps)
Dennis Maxwell - 26 different teams / 9 different leagues / 3 different countries / 17 yrs
- 5 different jr teams

Brian McKee - 12 different teams / 5 different leagues / 3 different countries / 12 yrs
Jacques Mailhot - 21 different teams / 9 different leagues / 12 yrs
Reggie Savage - 17 different teams / 9 different leagues / 4 different countries / 17 years (34 NHL games)
Garry Gulash - 17 different teams / 8 different leagues / 10 years (4 yr span - 8 teams / 6 leagues)
Bob Woods - 14 teams / 6 different leagues / 3 different countries / 13 yrs
Jeff Ricciardi - 15 teams / 6 leagues / 4 different countries / 19 yrs (6 different German teams / 2 different Italian teams)

Greg Hawgood - 21 different teams / 5 different leagues / 4 different countries / 22 yrs
- 474 NHL games / 8 different NHL teams / 1990-91 Edmonton/Cape Breton/Asagio/Maine / 1993-94 - Flyers/Panthers/Pens........GO HAWGIE HOCKEY!!)

Corey Beaulieu - 11 different teams / 5 different leagues / 3 different countries / 13 yrs
667 games / 19-89-108 / 2,243 PIMs

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