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09-26-2012, 12:04 PM
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Erskine is a borderline ECHLER... So he has no value.(For the record see what John Scott got last year.)

So this comes down to a 2nd for Bourque or Gionta ?

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09-26-2012, 12:45 PM
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Erskine is a borderline ECHLER... So he has no value.(For the record see what John Scott got last year.)

So this comes down to a 2nd for Bourque or Gionta ?
Well they are definately not 1st round pick players, especially in this draft. We get to clear cap space and open a spot for Gallagher. Erskine is a need for our small defense.


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09-26-2012, 12:46 PM
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Not a fan of either team but about a deal that has Brooks Laich and Drew Stafford as the main pieces. Obviously buffalo would have to add some. Caps get a top 6 winger and Buffalo gets a big body center that they need.
If the Caps were willing to sacrifice having Laich at 3C, they could simply move him back to the wing. No point in trading him for someone who provides them less roster flexibility.

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Gionta or Bourque for Erskine and a 2nd?
Bourque threw an elbow at Backstrom's head last year, causing him to spend 40 games on IR with a concussion. Hell no to Bourque.

Would do the deal for Gionta, assuming a similar salary cap or salary rollbacks.

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Erskine is a borderline ECHLER... So he has no value.(For the record see what John Scott got last year.)
You're underselling Erskine. He's not an all-star by any stretch of the mind, but he clearly belongs in the NHL. He's a perfectly adequate bottom pairing defenseman.

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09-26-2012, 12:53 PM
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If the Caps were willing to sacrifice having Laich at 3C, they could simply move him back to the wing. No point in trading him for someone who provides them less roster flexibility.


Bourque threw an elbow at Backstrom's head last year, causing him to spend 40 games on IR with a concussion. Hell no to Bourque.

Would do the deal for Gionta, assuming a similar salary cap or salary rollbacks.


You're underselling Erskine. He's not an all-star by any stretch of the mind, but he clearly belongs in the NHL. He's a perfectly adequate bottom pairing defenseman.
It's still an underpayment.

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09-26-2012, 01:34 PM
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It's still an underpayment.
Maybe it is, it's just that knowing our reputation, I'm just trying not to come off as a homer Habs fan here.

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09-26-2012, 01:36 PM
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It's still an underpayment.
He's making 5 million a year and hasn't put up more than 46 points in any of the last 3 seasons. I know there's more to his game than offense, but offense is what the Caps are looking for. On top of that, this is supposed to be a seriously good draft class, so that 2nd rounder is more valuable than usual. Unless the cap remains the same, this isn't something the Caps would be interested in.

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Not that I'm advocating this but would Ryan for Alzner straight across be fair?
Rather keep Alzner and look elsewhere.

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I'm not saying i would trade him but curious on what would washington offer for justin williams?

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09-26-2012, 02:21 PM
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Erskine is a borderline ECHL'er? What's that make Schultz a DIII college player? Come on....


Erskine is a borderline NHLer at worst. He'd be in the lineup for a decent amount of teams in the NHL.

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09-26-2012, 02:30 PM
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"Promised" is a stronger word than even Wolski has used. And Wolski himself has acknowledged that he's at a crossorads in his career, and he has to perform well just to stay in the NHL, let alone earn himself a top six spot. And even if Wolski sticks in the top six, it's not out of the question to ask Troy Brouwer or Marcus Johansson to accept a bottom six role if the team were to acquire a legit top six winger.
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More like top-6 or AHL. He wasn't guaranteed an NHL spot, it was just obvious that he wouldn't be used in a bottom 6 role.
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When he was signed for $600k? I doubt he was even promised he would play in the NHL.
It's not like he will stay there if he under performs. But, he did sign a 1-way deal, and I'm sure he took a pay-cut to take a 1-way deal. Also, he's a player that could (potentially) thrive under Oates... http://m.nbcsports.com/content/capit...op-six-forward ... http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...wojtek-wolski/

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It's not like he will stay there if he under performs. But, he did sign a 1-way deal, and I'm sure he took a pay-cut to take a 1-way deal. Also, he's a player that could (potentially) thrive under Oates... http://m.nbcsports.com/content/capit...op-six-forward ... http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...wojtek-wolski/
1-way at $600,000. Not enough to guarantee him an NHL spot (even as a regular scratch). Of course he might not clear waivers, but if they're willing to put him there in the first place then losing him isn't a travesty.

Overall point being, his signing doesn't mean the Caps couldn't use a bona fide top-6er. Will they realistically be in the market for one? Given the lack of valuable trade assets, probably not, but fans can dream...

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Paajarvi for Orlov? Just a suggestion. Don't really want to give up on Paajarvi yet though.

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09-26-2012, 03:58 PM
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Paajarvi for Orlov? Just a suggestion. Don't really want to give up on Paajarvi yet though.
So Washington gives you their high upside young player who has performed to expectations for your high upside young player who has failed to meet expectations? In what world does that make sense?

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best laugh of the day. this is a thread to find a RW to play with Ovechkin and Backstrom. Somebody suggests Rene Bourque? lol

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best laugh of the day. this is a thread to find a RW to play with Ovechkin and Backstrom. Somebody suggests Rene Bourque? lol
You know the player has scored 30 goals 3 consecutive time ? He has the ability to take on a game completely.

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You know the player has scored 30 goals 3 consecutive time ? He has the ability to take on a game completely.
Bourque? When has he every scored 30 goals?

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You know the player has scored 30 goals 3 consecutive time ? He has the ability to take on a game completely.
What are you talking about? Bourque's never potted 30 in a season. Anyway, that's beside the point, which is that Bourque was the one who elbowed Backstrom in the head, giving him a major concussion that cost him 40 games.

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Bourque? When has he every scored 30 goals?
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What are you talking about? Bourque's never potted 30 in a season. Anyway, that's beside the point, which is that Bourque was the one who elbowed Backstrom in the head, giving him a major concussion that cost him 40 games.
27 ... 3 short of 30 sorry.


And it was 2 season not 3 ** My mistake.

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27 ... 3 short of 30 sorry.


And it was 2 season not 3 ** My mistake.
Plus the almost-as-obvious concussion thing.

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Plus the almost-as-obvious concussion thing.
I don't think that is an issue.

It's not the players that decide who play's for their team.

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I don't think that is an issue.

It's not the players that decide who play's for their team.
Are you kidding me? How can it not be an issue? Bourque earned a 5 game suspension for that play, it was obvious intent to injure and if he'd connected a few inches higher it could've ended Backstrom's career instead of *just* costing him half a season. There's a reason Matt Hendricks made a point to fight him the next time they played him. Do you think Pacioretty would be fine with playing alongside Chara? Or Savard with Cooke? This is a huge issue, and no sane GM would ever trade for a player who did something like this to one of their players, particularly one of their stars. And that's to say nothing of how the fans would react. He'd be booed off the ice every game. No one with half a brain would bring him to the Caps.

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what would you guys give up for hemsky

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what would you guys give up for hemsky
What's the point? The price is never high enough for Oilers fans.

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what would you guys give up for hemsky
Caps won't trade any of our important pieces for a top 6 winger. McPhee made it clear that he is satisfied with the current roster when he refused to pursue any big UFA wingers and resigned Browuer.

Again, at this point Caps don't really have any valuable assets they would be willing to give up for a top 6 winger.

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I think Martin Havlat would fit nicely on the first line with Ovechkin and Backstrom. How about Laich + Schultz + 2nd for Havlat + Murray?

The 2nd line can be Wolski/Perreault-Ribeiro-Brouwer, the 3rd line Chimera-Johansson-Ward, 4th line Hendricks-Beagle-Crabb
I don't think Havlat has anything significant to bring to our top line that isn't within the skillset/abillities of Backstrom or Ovechkin or both that would seriously improve that line.

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