HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must use the RUMOR prefix in thread title. Proposals must contain the PROPOSAL prefix in the thread title.

Patrick Marleau

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
09-26-2012, 05:51 PM
  #76
TheJuxtaposer
#Shorks
 
TheJuxtaposer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 29,900
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by SupermanPahlsson View Post
Can't, tell, if, sarcasm, or...
What are you talking about?

TheJuxtaposer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-26-2012, 06:15 PM
  #77
SupermanPahlsson
Registered User
 
SupermanPahlsson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 909
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJuxtaposer View Post
What are you talking about?
Where you said Anaheim is a good fit and Marleau would waive his NMC. Would he actually accept a trade to a division rival, or were you just being sarcastic?

SupermanPahlsson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-26-2012, 06:23 PM
  #78
WTFetus
Moderator
Marlov
 
WTFetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 12,547
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SupermanPahlsson View Post
Where you said Anaheim is a good fit and Marleau would waive his NMC. Would he actually accept a trade to a division rival, or were you just being sarcastic?
Why would he care about Anaheim being a division rival? Location easily comes before team "hatred" (not to mention sticking it to the team that wanted you gone would be a benefit). Marleau's wife is from San Jose, so I don't think he'd want to go very far (LA, Anaheim, Vancouver).

WTFetus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-26-2012, 06:35 PM
  #79
Mafoofoo
Jawesome
 
Mafoofoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Country: United States
Posts: 13,945
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SupermanPahlsson View Post
Where you said Anaheim is a good fit and Marleau would waive his NMC. Would he actually accept a trade to a division rival, or were you just being sarcastic?
Marleau's wife is a California girl and he loves it here. He'd probably only waive for LA and Anahiem.

Mafoofoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-26-2012, 07:29 PM
  #80
digdug41982
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 26,474
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJuxtaposer View Post
Someone like Morin or J. Hayes?
Yeah, that's fine, prefer it to be Hayes.

digdug41982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 12:51 AM
  #81
Pinkfloyd
Registered User
 
Pinkfloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Roseville
Country: United States
Posts: 38,772
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOGuy14 View Post
I know that Marleau puts up the points / goals, but as a Toronto fan I don't really have any interest in him or the game he brings with him, and we are desperate for someone who can play C too...
Care to actually explain why because there is absolutely no reason why Toronto wouldn't want a guy that plays both sides of the puck at a high level, can play center and wing, and is one of the fastest and most versatile skaters in this league.

Toronto would be fools to decline going after a guy that will make them better especially at the likely cost for the player...provided that he had Toronto on his list. Granted, that is something I doubt very highly. There's absolutely no reason not to bring him in if the price is right.

Pinkfloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 02:03 AM
  #82
Reverend Mayhem
I would be awesomer.
 
Reverend Mayhem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Port Coquitlam, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 21,327
vCash: 500
Send a message via Skype™ to Reverend Mayhem
Marleau has crazy value to the Sharks, and he's not a 2nd line player. If he's on your second line, then you have an elite offensive team.

Reverend Mayhem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 07:48 AM
  #83
Hivemind
We're Touched
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 17,392
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Mayhem View Post
Marleau has crazy value to the Sharks, and he's not a 2nd line player. If he's on your second line, then you have an elite offensive team.
He'd be on Washington's 2nd line, and the Caps have been far from an elite offensive team the past two years.

Hivemind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 07:56 AM
  #84
TOGuy14
Registered User
 
TOGuy14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,739
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinkfloyd View Post
Care to actually explain why because there is absolutely no reason why Toronto wouldn't want a guy that plays both sides of the puck at a high level, can play center and wing, and is one of the fastest and most versatile skaters in this league.

Toronto would be fools to decline going after a guy that will make them better especially at the likely cost for the player...provided that he had Toronto on his list. Granted, that is something I doubt very highly. There's absolutely no reason not to bring him in if the price is right.
I just find that he would not be the right fit for this team. And as I stated earlier, it may just be me but I feel like he suffers from "Alexei Kovalev" syndrome, aka shows up every night and puts points on the board, but I question how much he actually cares / shows leadership

At his salary and age, with questionable leadership ability he isn't what Toronto really needs right now.

TOGuy14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 12:47 PM
  #85
Oates2Neely
Registered User
 
Oates2Neely's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: BeanTown
Country: Azores
Posts: 8,805
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOGuy14 View Post
I just find that he would not be the right fit for this team. And as I stated earlier, it may just be me but I feel like he suffers from "Alexei Kovalev" syndrome, aka shows up every night and puts points on the board, but I question how much he actually cares / shows leadership

At his salary and age, with questionable leadership ability he isn't what Toronto really needs right now.
Care to get a lil more in depth regarding that statement???

Marleau is a 30+ goal scorer. He plays LW and Center, and he has blazing speed. He is EXACTLY what Toronto needs.

Lupul - Marleau - Kessel

How does this not seem like a fit to Leaf fans?

Oates2Neely is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 12:54 PM
  #86
Thepainter
Registered User
 
Thepainter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bay Area, California
Country: United States
Posts: 5,374
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TOGuy14 View Post
I just find that he would not be the right fit for this team. And as I stated earlier, it may just be me but I feel like he suffers from "Alexei Kovalev" syndrome, aka shows up every night and puts points on the board, but I question how much he actually cares / shows leadership

At his salary and age, with questionable leadership ability he isn't what Toronto really needs right now.
The real reason being nobody on Toronto is fast enough to keep up with him, nobody on Toronto would fall back and play defensively with him, and he'd probably outscore the rest of the team combined.

I see your point now, not a good fit at all.

Thepainter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 01:18 PM
  #87
ToddRundgren
A Wizard A True Star
 
ToddRundgren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Somerville MA
Country: United States
Posts: 13,336
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SupermanPahlsson View Post
Where you said Anaheim is a good fit and Marleau would waive his NMC. Would he actually accept a trade to a division rival, or were you just being sarcastic?
It's common knowledge that Marleau hates the Ducks with a passion.

__________________
Dusk At Cubist Castle
ToddRundgren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 02:45 PM
  #88
Sevanston
Registered User
 
Sevanston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 13,128
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oates2Neely View Post
Care to get a lil more in depth regarding that statement???
If it counts for anything, the Sharks have had two of their best playoff finishes in franchise history since Marleau was stripped of his captaincy.

Toronto should still be all over him though.

Sevanston is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 02:52 PM
  #89
digdug41982
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 26,474
vCash: 50
Marleau was the only one who showed up against the Hawks in the Cup year. I'll always remember him for those performances.

digdug41982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 03:01 PM
  #90
Oates2Neely
Registered User
 
Oates2Neely's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: BeanTown
Country: Azores
Posts: 8,805
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sevanston View Post
If it counts for anything, the Sharks have had two of their best playoff finishes in franchise history since Marleau was stripped of his captaincy.

Toronto should still be all over him though.
Toronto has NOT made the playoffs since Phaneuf was appointed Captain of the Leafs, should Burke trade him?

Oates2Neely is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 03:15 PM
  #91
Sevanston
Registered User
 
Sevanston's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 13,128
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oates2Neely View Post
Toronto has NOT made the playoffs since Phaneuf was appointed Captain of the Leafs, should Burke trade him?
Like I said, if Marleau's available, Toronto should be all over him.

Sevanston is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-27-2012, 03:17 PM
  #92
Oates2Neely
Registered User
 
Oates2Neely's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: BeanTown
Country: Azores
Posts: 8,805
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sevanston View Post
Like I said, if Marleau's available, Toronto should be all over him.
No player has dynamite playoff stats year after year, but IMO Marleau is a gamer who leaves it all on the ice. He's not overly physical, but he doesn't lack effort.

*Apologies, my post was intended for "TO Guy14"

Oates2Neely is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-28-2012, 12:45 AM
  #93
Johnny Hoxville
Moderator
Dust Buster
 
Johnny Hoxville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 18,320
vCash: 2403
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafoofoo View Post
Yeah ok keep telling yourself that. The Flames would jump for joy if Marleau was offered straight up for Glencross.
Yeah, we would jump at the chance of adding 4 million to our payroll for an extra 15pts a season. That will put us over top!

Players on contracts like the one that Glencross has are invaluable to a cap team. Glencross is pretty much a 30 goal guy at this point, plus he does so many other things well. I wouldn't make that trade and I doubt Feaster would either.

Marleau has more value, but Glencross is not leaving Calgary for him from our stand point. It makes zero sense.

Johnny Hoxville is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-28-2012, 01:53 AM
  #94
TheJuxtaposer
#Shorks
 
TheJuxtaposer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 29,900
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVW View Post
Yeah, we would jump at the chance of adding 4 million to our payroll for an extra 15pts a season. That will put us over top!

Players on contracts like the one that Glencross has are invaluable to a cap team. Glencross is pretty much a 30 goal guy at this point, plus he does so many other things well. I wouldn't make that trade and I doubt Feaster would either.

Marleau has more value, but Glencross is not leaving Calgary for him from our stand point. It makes zero sense.
30 goal guy on a flukey 25% shooting.

TheJuxtaposer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-28-2012, 04:38 AM
  #95
mytor4*
 
mytor4*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,175
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVW View Post
Yeah, we would jump at the chance of adding 4 million to our payroll for an extra 15pts a season. That will put us over top!

Players on contracts like the one that Glencross has are invaluable to a cap team. Glencross is pretty much a 30 goal guy at this point, plus he does so many other things well. I wouldn't make that trade and I doubt Feaster would either.

Marleau has more value, but Glencross is not leaving Calgary for him from our stand point. It makes zero sense.


Pretty much a 30 goal guy.Come back when he hits 30 once in his career than we'll talk about him being a 30 goal guy.

mytor4* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-28-2012, 07:42 AM
  #96
Oates2Neely
Registered User
 
Oates2Neely's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: BeanTown
Country: Azores
Posts: 8,805
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVW View Post
Yeah, we would jump at the chance of adding 4 million to our payroll for an extra 15pts a season. That will put us over top!

Players on contracts like the one that Glencross has are invaluable to a cap team. Glencross is pretty much a 30 goal guy at this point, plus he does so many other things well. I wouldn't make that trade and I doubt Feaster would either.

Marleau has more value, but Glencross is not leaving Calgary for him from our stand point. It makes zero sense.
I cant see Glencross sustaining that ridiculous shooting %. One would guess his goal totals will drop once his shooting % comes down to "human level". Still a great player to have for a playoff run, just not close to the caliber player Marleau is.

Oates2Neely is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-28-2012, 02:11 PM
  #97
Mafoofoo
Jawesome
 
Mafoofoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Country: United States
Posts: 13,945
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVW View Post
Yeah, we would jump at the chance of adding 4 million to our payroll for an extra 15pts a season. That will put us over top!

Players on contracts like the one that Glencross has are invaluable to a cap team. Glencross is pretty much a 30 goal guy at this point, plus he does so many other things well. I wouldn't make that trade and I doubt Feaster would either.

Marleau has more value, but Glencross is not leaving Calgary for him from our stand point. It makes zero sense.
Glencross is pretty much a 30 goal guy without ever having scored 30 in a season yet? What? That makes zero sense.

Mafoofoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-28-2012, 02:27 PM
  #98
TheJuxtaposer
#Shorks
 
TheJuxtaposer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 29,900
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafoofoo View Post
Glencross is pretty much a 30 goal guy without ever having scored 30 in a season yet? What? That makes zero sense.
Doncha know that most goalscorers peak at age 30? He's got nowhere to go but up!

Yes, I realize the irony of this because Marleau is one of the few players to be a more effective goalscorer in his thirties than his twenties.

TheJuxtaposer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-28-2012, 02:50 PM
  #99
Johnny Hoxville
Moderator
Dust Buster
 
Johnny Hoxville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 18,320
vCash: 2403
There is nothing flukey about Glencross' numbers. He has continually elevated his game and numbers each season and there is no doubt that he would of "eclipsed" the 30 goal mark barring injuries and suspensions last season. Glencross has a very accurate and deadly shot, and I expect him to continue to show improvement over the next few seasons.

Regardless, this thread is not about that. I said I would not trade Glencross for Marleau straight up and I adamantly stand behind those comments. There is not enough about Marleau that makes him worth 4 million a season more than Glencross. Hockey is a business and considering cap hits, I'll take Glencross every day of the week.

Johnny Hoxville is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
09-28-2012, 02:52 PM
  #100
Johnny Hoxville
Moderator
Dust Buster
 
Johnny Hoxville's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 18,320
vCash: 2403
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJuxtaposer View Post
Doncha know that most goalscorers peak at age 30? He's got nowhere to go but up!

Yes, I realize the irony of this because Marleau is one of the few players to be a more effective goalscorer in his thirties than his twenties.
Doncha know it is fact that every player careers go downhill after they turn 30?

Its this typical mentality on HF that makes a poster lose all creditability to me. Absolutely ridiculous..

Johnny Hoxville is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:47 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.