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09-27-2012, 06:40 AM
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And Leblanc won't play center lol
Oh yes he will. This is the perfect time to see what he is made of down the middle in an offensive role. With an aging Plekanec and no real 4th line center in Montreal, it'll be fun to see where we stand center prospect wise. I hope he gets 20-25 min a game and plays on the 1st pp wave.

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09-27-2012, 07:08 AM
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I remember Ouellet being a pretty solid NHLer when he first came up, surprised he's fallen that much since then. He should be an upgrade over Willsie from last year.

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Blunden will play in Hamilton this year around...

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09-27-2012, 08:53 AM
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Bulldogs have invited 20 years old Defenseman from Rimouski Océanic Étienne Boutet

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Most notable try-out is Michel Ouellet
The one I personally like most out of the FA's is Corbin.

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09-27-2012, 06:50 PM
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Oh yes he will. This is the perfect time to see what he is made of down the middle in an offensive role. With an aging Plekanec and no real 4th line center in Montreal, it'll be fun to see where we stand center prospect wise. I hope he gets 20-25 min a game and plays on the 1st pp wave.
I agree. Leblanc has been a center throughout his development, minus the one pro season and his WJC. The organization needs RH centers more than RH wingers. If he can do both, that's even better. What's the downside of starting the season at that position, especially during a lockout? Worse case, move him back to the wing. IMO, the potential reward is greater than the risk. It looks like Hamilton has a surplus of RW'ers and a deficit at C anyway.

Same goes for Nattinen, if he could eventually prove himself ready for a 4C job in the NHL, he could be a real asset.

I know the lines will change a million times, but I'd like to see something vaguely like this:

Palushaj-Leblanc-Gallagher
Geoffrion-Dumont-Blunden
Chaput-Fortier-Stortini
Quailer-Nattinen-Avtsyn
Schultz

Nash-St Denis
Tinordi-Stejskal/tryout
Beaulieu-Pateryn
Hagel

...with some of the younger prospects (Bournival, Holland, Ellis) getting top ice time in Wheeling. I'm guessing the ECHL will be a much better league this season.


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09-27-2012, 07:03 PM
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I agree. Leblanc has been a center throughout his development, minus the one pro season and his WJC. The organization needs RH centers more than RH wingers. If he can do both, that's even better. What's the downside of starting the season at that position, especially during a lockout? Worse case, move him back to the wing. IMO, the potential reward is greater than the risk. It looks like Hamilton has a surplus of RW'ers and a deficit at C anyway.

Same goes for Nattinen, if he could eventually prove himself ready for a 4C job in the NHL, he could be a real asset.

I know the lines will change a million times, but I'd like to see something vaguely like this:

Palushaj-Leblanc-Gallagher
Geoffrion-Dumont-Blunden
Chaput-Fortier-Stortini
Quailer-Nattinen-Avtsyn
Schultz

Nash-St Denis
Tinordi-Stejskal/tryout
Beaulieu-Pateryn
Hagel

...with some of the younger prospects (Bournival, Holland, Ellis) getting top ice time in Wheeling. I'm guessing the ECHL will be a much better league this season.
I don't think it would be a good idea to send some of our good young guys in the ECHL, no matter how better this league is.

I'd prefer to see something like:

Palushaj - Leblanc - Gallagher
Geoffrion - Bournival - Ouellet
Holland - Dumont - Blunden
Quailer - Nattinen - Avtsin

St-Denis - Ellis
Beaulieu - Tinordi
Nash - Pateryn

Desjardins

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09-27-2012, 07:06 PM
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I remember Zack Torquato being a player I wanted the Habs to draft. He dropped and then never really became anything. Shows what I know.

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09-27-2012, 07:15 PM
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I don't think it would be a good idea to send some of our good young guys in the ECHL, no matter how better this league is.

I'd prefer to see something like:

Palushaj - Leblanc - Gallagher
Geoffrion - Bournival - Ouellet
Holland - Dumont - Blunden
Quailer - Nattinen - Avtsin

St-Denis - Ellis
Beaulieu - Tinordi
Nash - Pateryn

Desjardins
I guess it partly depends how important you think it is for the team to win games. IMO it would help the development of the cream of the crop (Gallagher, Tinordi, etc.) to be on a competitive team. I'd bet that Fortier, Chaput, Stortini and a tryout, say, Wild, go farther towards winning games this season (though they have less NHL potential, they are further along the learning curve) than Bournival, Holland, Avtsyn and Ellis. Maybe some of those players surprise in training camp, but then maybe the team would be better off with them taking jobs from rookie 1st round picks, rather than the AHL vets?

Remember, other teams have players like RNH and Skinner. The Dogs will be at a disadvantage, going talent vs talent. Having an experienced team might be the only way to survive.

I forgot about the Ouellet tryout - I would like to see him sign with the team. Then maybe it becomes a fight between Quailer and Avtsyn for that last spot in Hamilton.

The other point I'd make is, I'm pretty certain there is no waiver system when moving players between the AHL and ECHL. So if some younger prospects are clearly too good for Wheeling, we can call them up after a few games. It might be good for their development to make them prove it. At least, more positive than starting them in Hamilton and deciding midseason to demote them.


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09-27-2012, 07:30 PM
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Nattinen - LeBlanc - Palushaj'A'
Geoffrion - Chaput - Gallagher
Ouellet - Dumont'A' - Holland
Avtsin - Bournival - Blunden

St-Denis'C' - Ellis
Tinordi - Beaulieu
Stejskal - Nash
I'm pretty sure at 90% that Nattinen will play center

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09-27-2012, 07:58 PM
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I guess it partly depends how important you think it is for the team to win games. IMO it would help the development of the cream of the crop (Gallagher, Tinordi, etc.) to be on a competitive team. I'd bet that Fortier, Chaput, Stortini and a tryout, say, Wild, go farther towards winning games this season (though they have less NHL potential, they are further along the learning curve) than Bournival, Holland, Avtsyn and Ellis. Maybe some of those players surprise in training camp, but then maybe the team would be better off with them taking jobs from rookie 1st round picks, rather than the AHL vets?

Remember, other teams have players like RNH and Skinner. The Dogs will be at a disadvantage, going talent vs talent. Having an experienced team might be the only way to survive.

I forgot about the Ouellet tryout - I would like to see him sign with the team. Then maybe it becomes a fight between Quailer and Avtsyn for that last spot in Hamilton.

The other point I'd make is, I'm pretty certain there is no waiver system when moving players between the AHL and ECHL. So if some younger prospects are clearly too good for Wheeling, we can call them up after a few games. It might be good for their development to make them prove it. At least, more positive than starting them in Hamilton and deciding midseason to demote them.
You have a point... Winning more games will certainly help Tinordi, Beaulieu, Leblanc, Gallagher. But the question is, will winning a bit more help those guys enough to make for the kinda less good development that fairly good prospects in Holland, Ellis and Bournival will have because of that? Honestly I can't really tell.

The Bulldogs' training camp should bring an answer to that question. We will see what those guys are made of and how big the difference is between those guy and AHL vets.

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09-27-2012, 09:04 PM
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You have a point... Winning more games will certainly help Tinordi, Beaulieu, Leblanc, Gallagher. But the question is, will winning a bit more help those guys enough to make for the kinda less good development that fairly good prospects in Holland, Ellis and Bournival will have because of that? Honestly I can't really tell.

The Bulldogs' training camp should bring an answer to that question. We will see what those guys are made of and how big the difference is between those guy and AHL vets.
True that! Hopefully we'll get regular updates.

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According to http://hamiltonbulldogs.com.ismmedia...ing%20Camp.xls , you can add BOUTET, Étienne to the list of Ds.

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Geoffrion - LeBlanc - Gallagher
Holland - Bournival - Palushaj
Ouellet - Dumont - Avtsin
Blunden - Nattinen - Stortini
Schultz
Quailer



Beaulieu - Ellis
Tinordi - St-Denis
Stejskal - Nash


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09-28-2012, 09:24 AM
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As only RDS can do...

http://legrandclub.rds.ca/profils/LN.../148663/public

Michel Ouellet hasn't played an NHL game since the 2008-09 season, Luc. He hasn't even made the Bulldogs yet, but he's an insurance policy for the big club? OK...

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The major focus will be on defense: Ellis, Tinordi, Beaulieu, Nash IMO.
Does anyone see a surprise at forward,someone you think may exceed expectations?
Three come to mind Holland,Leveille and Ranford.All with a measure of speed,talent and desire that well becomes any player that wears the colors of the Bulldogs & Habs.

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Please no Avstin in place of Quailer in Hamilton...

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Wow Michel Ouellet had :
GP G A PTS PIM +-
2005-06 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 50 16 16 32 16 -13 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 73 19 29 48 30 -3 5 0 2 2 6
2007-08 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 64 17 19 36 12 11 -- -- -- -- --

That's actually nice stats wtf happened ?

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Wow Michel Ouellet had :
GP G A PTS PIM +-
2005-06 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 50 16 16 32 16 -13 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 73 19 29 48 30 -3 5 0 2 2 6
2007-08 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 64 17 19 36 12 11 -- -- -- -- --

That's actually nice stats wtf happened ?
I'm not sure but I think he played with Crosby in Pittsburgh.

Even if I'm right, it's still strange that he did not even played in the NHL after that.

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It's interesting that he couldnt secure an NHL job after the season with the lightning. 3 straight seasons of secondary scoring provided for cheap. instead he's stuck on the Moose with a Canucks team that is deep with offense and relatively few injuries. After that season he seems to have lost his scoring touch. You'd think he'd be able to put up serious points in Germany and Switzerland, than comes back and is a secondary player in Norfolk. Did he loose a step or is his game more well rounded?

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I would love to see these lines.

Geoffrion - Leblanc - Palushaj
Bournival - Dumont - Ouellet
Qualier - Holland - Schultz
Avstyn - Fortier - Stortini

Blunden will be the 13th foward with Montreal.

St Denis - Tinordi
Beaulieu - Pateryn
Nash - Ellis

Desjardins
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Wow Michel Ouellet had :
GP G A PTS PIM +-
2005-06 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 50 16 16 32 16 -13 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 73 19 29 48 30 -3 5 0 2 2 6
2007-08 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 64 17 19 36 12 11 -- -- -- -- --

That's actually nice stats wtf happened ?
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I'm not sure but I think he played with Crosby in Pittsburgh.

Even if I'm right, it's still strange that he did not even played in the NHL after that.
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It's interesting that he couldnt secure an NHL job after the season with the lightning. 3 straight seasons of secondary scoring provided for cheap. instead he's stuck on the Moose with a Canucks team that is deep with offense and relatively few injuries. After that season he seems to have lost his scoring touch. You'd think he'd be able to put up serious points in Germany and Switzerland, than comes back and is a secondary player in Norfolk. Did he loose a step or is his game more well rounded?
Based on an interview with Marc Antoine Godin from La Presse:

Trade to Van => shoulder injury => moved to Europe => not his style of play (he scores most of his goals while standing near the net) => came back in North America last season and had 31 points in 55 games with Norfolk.

He had two good seasons under Therrien so maybe he will be able to provide NHL depth in case of injuries. At worst he seems to be a very good AHL vet.

Who saw him play last season in the AHL?

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Based on an interview with Marc Antoine Godin from La Presse:

Trade to Van => shoulder injury => moved to Europe => not his style of play (he scores most of his goals while standing near the net) => came back in North America last season and had 31 points in 55 games with Norfolk.

He had two good seasons under Therrien so maybe he will be able to provide NHL depth in case of injuries. At worst he seems to be a very good AHL vet.

Who saw him play last season in the AHL?
Perhaps Darche's replacement.

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What a defense.

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Where's Gomer fit in if he's buried in minors??? Or are we banking on that amnesty clause in the CBA? Serious question, not just making another Gomez joke

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