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09-28-2012, 09:54 AM
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Vanek

What would be needed to move him? Is he expected to resign in Buffallo, and if yes: will he be expecting to make the same big bucks he is making now?

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09-28-2012, 10:16 AM
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What would be needed to move him? Is he expected to resign in Buffallo, and if yes: will he be expecting to make the same big bucks he is making now?

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Tough to say from this outsider. I think Buff fans probably want more than his production recently dictates hes worth. His 7+ cap hit is also far too high based on his totals. However some team with cap space might feel hes worth taking the chance on but I think Buff would be hard pressed to replace those 25-30goals.

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09-28-2012, 04:30 PM
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4 1sts from Edmonton?

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This guy doesn't get much credit from time to time it seems, it would be pretty high if the sabres were to trade him.

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Scoring is so insanely low in today's NHL that a guy who averages 33 goals a season is probably worth a lot. I don't think many teams would be willing to pay the price.

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What would be needed to move him? Is he expected to resign in Buffallo, and if yes: will he be expecting to make the same big bucks he is making now?

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On it's face it's interesting. The Sabres are building a new young core, and the Oilers have no shortage of young players.

That being said the best I could come up with is MPS and one of Schulz, Teubert, or Klefbom

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4 1sts from Edmonton?
Paajarvi, Hall, RNH, Yakupov?

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Oh, this again?

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09-28-2012, 07:04 PM
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Stastny seems the most logical, Less production, Less salary, fills positional needs of both teams, different conferences. Seems like decent value, but maybe Col throws in something small to balance it out.

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I would've given Dubinsky, Erixon 1st for Vanek.

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Vanek for one of ...

Kopitar
D. Brown
Tavares
Getzlaf
Perry
Callahan
Backes
Pacioretty
Eberle
Hall
Toews

There are others but it's a starting list for me.


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If the sabres could manage to put a legit center with Vanek that he could mesh with and if Ruff would use him properly in terms of both minutes and positioning on the ice Vanek would be a perennial 40 goal player.

Guys who average 33 goals a year shouldnt be getting like 15 mins a game and likewise guys with top 10 sniper abilities shouldnt be plopped in front of the goalie getting beat down every night...thats what god made tall 3rd liners for.

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Vanek for one of ...

Kopitar
D. Brown
Tavares
Getzlaf
Perry
Callahan
Backes
Pacioretty
Eberle
Hall
Toews

There are others but it's a starting list for me.
This is an.... interesting list.

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Vanek for one of ...

Kopitar
D. Brown
Tavares
Getzlaf
Perry

Callahan
Backes
Pacioretty
Eberle
Hall
Toews

There are others but it's a starting list for me.
You're joking on the bolded right?

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Stastny seems the most logical, Less production, Less salary, fills positional needs of both teams, different conferences. Seems like decent value, but maybe Col throws in something small to balance it out.
Far from logical when Vanek would be acquired to play with Stastny.

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09-28-2012, 10:41 PM
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You're joking on the bolded right?
Sabres top scorer and a very important piece ... for a top scorer, close to top scorer, or one of the most important on the team. Give to get. Don't give, don't get. Let me guess, you think Tim Connolly or Raffi Torres is more in line with trading Vanek.

Bias against is obvious bias.

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You're joking on the bolded right?
I know Vanek, like, only scored 25 goals last year, so it's hard to remember, but he's the 3rd best scorer from the stacked as **** 2003 draft class. He's one of only 4 active players in the NHL to have scored at least 25 goals in each of his first 7 seasons. He is one of the better PP producers in the league over the last several years. Averages .42 GPG while only getting an average between 15-16 minutes of ice time per game.
On a team with a coach that actually knew how to use scorers, there's no reason he couldn't pot 40 every year.

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09-28-2012, 11:44 PM
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Sabres top scorer and a very important piece ... for a top scorer, close to top scorer, or one of the most important on the team. Give to get. Don't give, don't get. Let me guess, you think Tim Connolly or Raffi Torres is more in line with trading Vanek.

Bias against is obvious bias.
I think it's more that you have guys like Tavares and Toews on the same list as Callahan and Brown.

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09-28-2012, 11:58 PM
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Sabres top scorer and a very important piece ... for a top scorer, close to top scorer, or one of the most important on the team. Give to get. Don't give, don't get. Let me guess, you think Tim Connolly or Raffi Torres is more in line with trading Vanek.

Bias against is obvious bias.
I am not saying it a move the sabres have to do, however there also are a few factors in favour of dealing him:
1) salary dump with an owner who would spend
2)2 years left (1 if lockout continues) on contract. If you wont resign then cashing in now makes sense.

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09-29-2012, 07:55 AM
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Vanek for one of ...

Kopitar
D. Brown
Tavares
Getzlaf
Perry
Callahan
Backes
Pacioretty
Eberle
Hall
Toews

There are others but it's a starting list for me.
Snow imo wouldn't even trade Moulson for Vanek, let alone 22 yr old Tavares.


Vanek: 27 yrs old. He's scored 230 goals in 547 nhl games, 80 goals in the last 3 seasons. Makes $7.1m per.

Moulson: 28 yrs old. He's scored 103 goals in 275 nhl games, 97 goals in the last 3 seasons.Makes $3.1m per.

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I know Vanek, like, only scored 25 goals last year, so it's hard to remember, but he's the 3rd best scorer from the stacked as **** 2003 draft class. He's one of only 4 active players in the NHL to have scored at least 25 goals in each of his first 7 seasons. He is one of the better PP producers in the league over the last several years. Averages .42 GPG while only getting an average between 15-16 minutes of ice time per game.
On a team with a coach that actually knew how to use scorers, there's no reason he couldn't pot 40 every year.
I'm not questioning his talent. We know he's talented. But at $7m per, he's lousy bang for the buck.

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09-29-2012, 08:00 AM
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Probably sees the least amount of ice time out of any of the elite goal scorers in the league.

Its frustrating seeing him only get about
17 min of toi each gaMe.

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Vanek for one of ...

Kopitar
D. Brown
Tavares
Getzlaf
Perry
Callahan
Backes
Pacioretty
Eberle
Hall
Toews

There are others but it's a starting list for me.
I can't imagine you finding many takers from that list. I don't mean this as a knock on Vanek, but I don't see many of those players being made available to land him. Maybe the new CBA will jar one of them loose.

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09-29-2012, 08:34 AM
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If Vanek were to be moved, I think it would be sometime after this season--the 2013/2014 trade deadline making the most sense. I don't think the team is going to be proactive in looking to move him, but depending on the development of young guys like Armia, Grigorenko, and Girgensons, Vanek could definitely be expendable (for lack of a better word).

He'll likely be one of the biggest scorers available at that time, he'd free up some serious cap space, and the team could likely grab some valuable pieces in return. With all that said, given all the money Buffalo has coming off the books in 2014/2015, they could resign him very easily if wanted to. Buffalo will most-likely be in contention for a playoff spot too, so yeah...

It'll be interesting to see what happens next year with him. He could very well be one of the biggest stories going into the trade deadline next year.

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The cost of trading for him plus his contract makes it difficult for most teams to think about it. If Buffalo is not in the playoff race on his last yr he could be a rental but i doubt that happens.

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