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09-30-2012, 04:18 PM
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Here is a trade which no one has mentioned.

To Toronto: Mikhail Grabovski.

To Montreal: Draft rights to Greg Pateryn & 2010 2nd round pick .

Since coming to the Leafs it's fair to say Grabovski has become a much better player and his game has very much improved.

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09-30-2012, 04:23 PM
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Here is a trade which no one has mentioned.

To Toronto: Mikhail Grabovski.

To Montreal: Draft rights to Greg Pateryn & 2010 2nd round pick .

Since coming to the Leafs it's fair to say Grabovski has become a much better player and his game has very much improved.
Didn't the Leafs reacquire that pick and then package it for Kessel? Nonetheless, that's a good trade by Toronto.

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09-30-2012, 04:39 PM
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Didn't the Leafs reacquire that pick and then package it for Kessel? Nonetheless, that's a good trade by Toronto.
Yes they did. That 2010 2nd round pick went from Toronto - Montreal - Chicago - Toronto - Boston.

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09-30-2012, 04:58 PM
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Some of the trades listed aren't "underrated" or "under the radar".

An underrated trade would be Calgary sending Cory Stillman to St. Louis for Craig Conroy and a 7th-round pick. Stillman was an inconsistent, former first-round pick, who went on to have a solid pro career, including winning back-to-back Cups with Tampa Bay and Carolina.

Conroy was considered a checking line centre, who would end up developing great chemistry with Jarome Iginla and developing into a top-2 centre.

The Blues would then ship Stillman to Tampa a few years later (after a good few seasons as a Blue) for the pick that got us David Backes.

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09-30-2012, 05:49 PM
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A lot of posters don't understand what 'underrated' means, they just want to showboat good trades by their teams.

Or they understand, and that's sad.

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09-30-2012, 06:13 PM
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The Blues would then ship Stillman to Tampa a few years later (after a good few seasons as a Blue) for the pick that got us David Backes.
That trade was also awesome for both teams as Stillman had an 80 point season in Tampa and was a big part of them winning the Cup.

I didn't realize this (until I just looked up Stillman) but Stillman left Tampa for Carolina, the year after winning the Cup for the Lightning, as a UFA where he had a better than PPG season and won the Cup the year after that.

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Not totally underrated, but I'm sure a lot of people don't know that Vancouver 'stole' Naslund from Philly for professional fireman Alex Stojanov
Not sure if it was corrected but it wasn't Philly...it was Pittsburgh. So Philly thanks the Canucks!

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To Toronto: Joffery Lupul & Jake Gardiner

To Anaheim: Francios Beauchemin

The Leafs got a great surprise with Lupul's point and goals from this past season Gardiner had a great rookie season with them.

The Ducks made the Playoffs with Beauchemin in 2011 and he seems to be fan favorite down there.
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These are two of the most talked about trades on HFboards, looking for more under the radar ones.
The original trade that brought Beauchemin to Anaheim is extremely underrated.

To ANA: Beauchemin and Tyler Wright

To CBJ: Federov 5th rounder.

Beauchemin was obviously an integral part of the cup in Anaheim.

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09-30-2012, 07:32 PM
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What about Smyth for Fraser and a 7th?

Smyth scored some goals for Edmonton, got to be home, and provided leadership for a young team while Fraser centered the 4th line for the cup champs. Not a really talked about move that helped the Kings win it all this year.

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09-30-2012, 07:41 PM
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The original trade that brought Beauchemin to Anaheim is extremely underrated.

To ANA: Beauchemin and Tyler Wright

To CBJ: Federov 5th rounder.

Beauchemin was obviously an integral part of the cup in Anaheim.
Yes! I posted that on an earlier thread page, but that's - to me at least - a top-three Ducks trade post-lockout (apart from the two Pronger deals).

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09-30-2012, 07:52 PM
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The Blues would then ship Stillman to Tampa a few years later (after a good few seasons as a Blue) for the pick that got us David Backes.
That trade was also awesome for both teams as Stillman had an 80 point season in Tampa and was a big part of them winning the Cup.

I didn't realize this (until I just looked up Stillman) but Stillman left Tampa for Carolina, the year after winning the Cup for the Lightning, as a UFA where he had a better than PPG season and won the Cup the year after that.

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What about Smyth for Fraser and a 7th?

Smyth scored some goals for Edmonton, got to be home, and provided leadership for a young team while Fraser centered the 4th line for the cup champs. Not a really talked about move that helped the Kings win it all this year.
Good, underrated trade for both teams IMO. Another good one was the Hurricanes-Blackhawks deal.

Tuomo Ruutu for Andrew Ladd. Ruutu's been a good player for the Canes, and Ladd was one of the main reasons the Blackhawks won the cup in 2010.

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09-30-2012, 09:49 PM
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Steen to the Blues ended up being a great move for St.Louis...not so much for the Leafs. He's turned into quite the two-way forward.

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Teddy Purcell and a 3rd (Brock Buekeboom) for Halpern. Worked out great for the Bolts. Then turn around and trade Buekeboom and 3rd before the deadline for Brewer.
Strangely, since the trade, Tampa is a non-playoff team while LA won the Cup. Not having Moulson and Purcell as our top six wingers has been great. They're no Penner and Carter.

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What about Smyth for Fraser and a 7th?

Smyth scored some goals for Edmonton, got to be home, and provided leadership for a young team while Fraser centered the 4th line for the cup champs. Not a really talked about move that helped the Kings win it all this year.
Spot on. Not only has Fraser been a gem of a role player, who has bought in to the team, we got rid of Smyth's salary so that fitting in a Carter was now possible.

I remember a year ago when some Oiler fans were so happy they 'won' every recent trade with us. Now looking at how everything panned out...have the Oilers EVER won a trade with the Kings? If I was Edmonton, I'd have Lombardi's number blocked. Every time a trade goes down, LA rips heart and soul players from Edmonton.

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10-01-2012, 02:33 PM
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As for a trade, I remember the Nicholls trade to NYR is the kind any team dreads, trading your beloved star player away for pieces...and that led to the Kings having a donut in the team for a long time, missing a player for the second line center role that was "filled" by guys like Elik, Millen, Carson II, etc.

But the return was Sandstrom and Granato...both of which turned out great for the Kings.

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Never really got a shot in St. Louis because of his poor defensive play, too many mistakes like this one:


Columbus is a good place for him though, they'll excuse the mistakes due to the offence he brings, and maybe he'll round out his game once he gets more NHL experience.
His bigger issues were communication through a language barrier, it was very hard for him to take quick instructions or build chemistry with his goalie / d-partner. So it lead to him being out of position or slow to react to the play. That's part of why he had a huge turn-around in Columbus was playing with Tyutin as a mentor and d-partner.

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Spot on. Not only has Fraser been a gem of a role player, who has bought in to the team, we got rid of Smyth's salary so that fitting in a Carter was now possible.

I remember a year ago when some Oiler fans were so happy they 'won' every recent trade with us. Now looking at how everything panned out...have the Oilers EVER won a trade with the Kings? If I was Edmonton, I'd have Lombardi's number blocked. Every time a trade goes down, LA rips heart and soul players from Edmonton.
How did Edmonton lose the Visnovsky and Smyth trades? They got the best players available.

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How did Edmonton lose the Visnovsky and Smyth trades? They got the best players available.
Clearly displayed by the standings last season...

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Jokinen for Brookbank, Melichar and a 4th.

Legit top six forward for spare parts.
Especially considering how good he was in the playoffs that year.

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to NYR: Brandon Prust, Olli Jokinen

to CGY: Chris Higgins, Ales Kotalik
Part of the terrible terrible trades the Flames made during that era

Brought to you by your Stanley Cup Winning Coach Daryl Suter!!

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Considering I soiled myself at the time and lambasted Murray for doing, I guess the Kyle Turris trade was/is underrated. Without him, we likely would have missed the playoffs last season - even if the price was high (IMO).

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Underrated trade from 2005.

Anaheim acquires Travis Moen from Chicago for Mikael Holmqvist.

Holmqvist had promise with the Cincinnati Mighty Ducks, but Burke opted to ship him off for Moen. Holmqvist registered 33 points in 135 games with Chicago, and then took his game back home to Sweden. Meanwhile, Moen figured into one of the best checking lines in recent memory with Pahlsson and Rob Niedermayer, won a Stanley Cup, and is now considered one of the better third-line grinding wingers in the game.

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Spot on. Not only has Fraser been a gem of a role player, who has bought in to the team, we got rid of Smyth's salary so that fitting in a Carter was now possible.

I remember a year ago when some Oiler fans were so happy they 'won' every recent trade with us. Now looking at how everything panned out...have the Oilers EVER won a trade with the Kings? If I was Edmonton, I'd have Lombardi's number blocked. Every time a trade goes down, LA rips heart and soul players from Edmonton.
Ya.... Penner and Fraser.
Huge heart and soul.

Not a single Oiler fan was dissapointed at those trades.


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Here's a long shot on "under-rated"... or maybe not under-rated, but surprisingly long lasting.

Lindros to Philly. On the 30th of June 1992 (so over twenty years ago)

Nords get: Steve Duchesne, two 1sts, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Peter Forsberg & Chris Simon.

Ron Hextall became Mark Fitzpatrick & 1st (Deadmarsh), Deadmarsh became Rob Blake & Steven Reinprecht, Reinprecht became Keith Ballard who became Ossi Vaananen, Chris Gratton and a 2nd rounder used to pick Paul Stastny.

Mike Ricci became Shean Donovan and a 1st (Tanguay), Tanguay then becoming Leopold and Leopold becoming as I mentioned earlier, Ryan Wilson and a pick used on Stefan Elliott.

So, over 20 years after a trade, we're still getting benefit from it. Full trade tree is here: http://avalanchedb.com/archives/lindrostree.php

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