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09-30-2012, 04:07 PM
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The Leafs' development system is atrocious, and that's a result of the market they play in, and their management philosophy. Kids are rushed and don't learn how to play proper defence, or how to play responsibly with and without the puck.
The media pressure there is absolutely insane.

I would definitely bring Kadri in here, because the Devils can take their time with him. They don't need to force him at all, send him to the AHL and let him work on his game. No need for him to play in the NHL right now.

However, I doubt the Leafs fans would think anything of a Burlon and Tallinder for Bozak and Kadri swap, they would probably dismiss it really easily saying Burlon is a crappy prospect and Tallinder is an overpaid 6th defensemen.

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09-30-2012, 05:18 PM
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Sooo when do we acquire Tarasenko ???

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09-30-2012, 06:02 PM
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Sooo when do we acquire Tarasenko ???
When Lou goes off his rocker and gives Larsson to St. Louis.

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09-30-2012, 06:27 PM
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When Lou goes off his rocker and gives Larsson to St. Louis.
You mean Merrill

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You mean Merrill
Merrill, Tedenby and a pick for Tarasenko.

Anyone else agree?

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Merrill, Tedenby and a pick for Tarasenko.

Anyone else agree?
St Louis doesn't

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Pretty much. Id pull the trigger on that in a heartbeat

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Merrill, Tedenby and a pick for Tarasenko.

Anyone else agree?
No chance, we would have to add

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09-30-2012, 07:52 PM
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Something like Merrill + Urbom + 2nd +

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Kadri is looking more and more like a bust. Bozak is wildly overrated by Leafs fans, I think we could do better if we put Tallinder on the market.
Why is Kadri looking like a bust? I think he still looks promising.

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09-30-2012, 08:10 PM
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Why is Kadri looking like a bust? I think he still looks promising.
he's a leafs prospect....as i said before they ruin talent... off the top of my head... boyes, steen, colaaciavo, stajan ,schenn, tlusty, ....theres more ......but almost always players once gone from their team do better elsewhere.

a garbage franchise with a herd of sheep that follow.

and wheres pogge nowadays?

as for ian white....they did 'ok' with him in trade at least ......he wasnt damaged when they sent him out, hence the return:

2010-01-31 Maple Leafs get Dion Phaneuf, Keith Aulie, Fredrik Sjostrom


Flames get Niklas Hagman, Jamal Mayers, Matt Stajan, Ian White


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Why is Kadri looking like a bust? I think he still looks promising.
Done absolutely nothing so far in the NHL. Now has reported to camp out of shape

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09-30-2012, 08:22 PM
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Something like Merrill + Urbom + 2nd +
Still more than that. Think what it would take to pry Granlund from the Wild, and it's slightly less than that.

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Why is Kadri looking like a bust? I think he still looks promising.
He's been languishing in the AHL for a while now, and apart from a few flashes, he hasn't impressed. The inconsistent offence he brings doesn't make up for his other issues.

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he's a leafs prospect....as i said before they ruin talent... off the top of my head... boyes, steen, colaaciavo, stajan ,schenn, tlusty, ....theres more ......but almost always players once gone from their team do better elsewhere.

a garbage franchise with a herd of sheep that follow.

and wheres pogge nowadays?

as for ian white....they did 'ok' with him in trade at least ......he wasnt damaged when they sent him out, hence the return:

2010-01-31 Maple Leafs get Dion Phaneuf, Keith Aulie, Fredrik Sjostrom


Flames get Niklas Hagman, Jamal Mayers, Matt Stajan, Ian White
I think it's more the pressure and the pressure from the media that gets onto these kids. I'm sure it plays a lot on kids when they turn on the TV to hear media blasting him or hyping him up to be something they aren't. They come into Toronto with such high expectations and when they don't accomplish those, both media, fans, and probably even the player himself is let down.

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He's been languishing in the AHL for a while now, and apart from a few flashes, he hasn't impressed. The inconsistent offence he brings doesn't make up for his other issues.
That's because he's expected by Canadian and Toronto media to be the second coming of Wayne Gretzky, when all he truly might be is a second line forward. He's still only 21, once he gets out of Toronto he will be a 40 point player, at least, at the NHL level.

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I think it's more the pressure and the pressure from the media that gets onto these kids. I'm sure it plays a lot on kids when they turn on the TV to hear media blasting him or hyping him up to be something they aren't. They come into Toronto with such high expectations and when they don't accomplish those, both media, fans, and probably even the player himself is let down.



That's because he's expected by Canadian and Toronto media to be the second coming of Wayne Gretzky, when all he truly might be is a second line forward. He's still only 21, once he gets out of Toronto he will be a 40 point player, at least, at the NHL level.
i could see that.....a decent player..... it is both a shame and comical what toronto can do for a young player's start in the league.

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i could see that.....a decent player..... it is both a shame and comical what toronto can do for a young player's start in the league.
I mean, Leafs fans are still high on the kid, but I proposed the other day sending Tallinder and Burlon for Bozak and Kadri. I'd totally take the risk on Kadri, I think that's a fair deal, but the you'll have the Leafs fans overrating the **** out of Bozak/Kadri and underrating Tallinder/Burlon.

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I'm all for low risk reclamation projects, but acquiring Kadri doesn't feel like that kind of move. He comes with a lot of baggage still.

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I'm all for low risk reclamation projects, but acquiring Kadri doesn't feel like that kind of move. He comes with a lot of baggage still.
Unfortunately.

Have a feeling Lou invites Fehr to camp, maybe even re-invites Sykora. Should try some guy like Thoreson out of the KHL as well, he's been lighting up the KHL recently. Basically tells Sykora, you outplay Butler/Tedenby/JJ/Parse/whoever, you are on the team.

Thoreson's (28yo) point totals in the KHL:

09-10: 57 points in 56 games, 10-11: 66 points in 54 games 11-12: 41 points in 45 games 12-current: 12 points in 8 games.

He's on SKA with Kovy this year.

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Toews vs. Kovalchuk poll going in the Poll Section.

I admittedly said it was a tough call but in the end had to go with Kovy.

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Toews vs. Kovalchuk poll going in the Poll Section.

I admittedly said it was a tough call but in the end had to go with Kovy.
Toews, not even close.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=858856

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don't know if it was said yet, but apparently these photos (posted previously) of Kovy & Malkin are from a Russian children's movie that's being made right now



We now have a moviestar on the team

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12:00 - NHL and NHLPA reach agreement ending NHL lockout
12:01 - New Jersey Devils place Kris Barch on unconditional waivers

Lou doesn't play no games.

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Clearly Russian children are being exposed to way more awesomeness than I ever was as a kid. You know, that and the radiation.

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Charity dinner and special tribute to New Jersey Devils president Lou Lamoriello, with proceeds to benefit the Museum's year-round outreach and education programs. Special guests include Martin Brodeur, Ken Daneyko and others. For sponsorship and ticket info, contact Joni Bronander at joni.yogi@montclair.edu or (973) 655-6890 .

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12:00 - NHL and NHLPA reach agreement ending NHL lockout
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Lou doesn't play no games.
It's not like the Devils are paying him and he's saying the stuff he said.

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