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09-28-2012, 09:49 AM
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A UFA sigining or two away from being a contender IMO. A scoring wing, a vet mid-pairing dman.
I still find us a little thin ,in both the top 4 and top 6 areas .We have some good youth coming but until its proven.Its still a huge question mark.

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09-28-2012, 10:35 AM
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Switch out Grigorenko with Girgenson and you have yourself a deal.
No he doesn't. Spezza for Myers straight up is probably reasonable value, but neither team does it.

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09-28-2012, 10:50 AM
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No he doesn't. Spezza for Myers straight up is probably reasonable value, but neither team does it.
Id take spezza over myers. =/

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09-28-2012, 10:56 AM
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No he doesn't. Spezza for Myers straight up is probably reasonable value, but neither team does it.
No it's not. Spezza is one of the best centers in the league and still has a few good years left. Myers+ for Spezza would make sense.

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09-28-2012, 11:06 AM
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No it's not. Spezza is one of the best centers in the league and still has a few good years left. Myers+ for Spezza would make sense.
Age and contract. Sabres wouldn't add a thing.

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09-28-2012, 11:13 AM
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Age and contract. Sabres wouldn't add a thing.
Age LOL, Buffalo would trade Myers and Grigo for Spezza and like it. As a Habs fan I would easily trade Subban and Gally for Spezz - that's what it would take.

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09-28-2012, 11:19 AM
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Age LOL, Buffalo would trade Myers and Grigo for Spezza and like it. As a Habs fan I would easily trade Subban and Gally for Spezz.
Good for you. Enjoy 2 years of Spezza while mortgaging your future. Buffalo minus Myers, plus Spezza is a worse team now and in the future.

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09-28-2012, 11:27 AM
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Good for you. Enjoy 2 years of Spezza while mortgaging your future. Buffalo minus Myers, plus Spezza is a worse team now and in the future.
Yeah, sure bud. You have no number one center but Spezza is going to make you a worst team? Even at the expense of Myers, Spezza is elite and he is not.

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09-28-2012, 11:31 AM
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Yeah, sure bud. You have no number one center but Spezza is going to make you a worst team? Even at the expense of Myers, Spezza is elite and he is not.
You don't know anything about Buffalo. The defense would be crippled. You don't just trade a number 1, all situations player and not have a replacement.

And whether or not we have a no. 1 center is yet to be determined. Ennis looked awfully capable last year I know what we wouldn't have if we traded Myers, and that is an elite level defenseman.

Think of it this way. We have Myers locked up for 7 years in his prime for Dennis Wiseman money. During those 7 years, we can hope for one of Ennis, Hodgson, Grigorenko, or Girgensons to develop into impact centers. When that happens we have a no. 1 dman in his prime on a good salary, plus whichever center's pan out. Why the hell would anyone trade that option for 2 years of a no. 1 center with no option for a no. 1 dman?


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09-28-2012, 11:32 AM
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The kid will round himself out nicely into a #1 defenseman.

I'd trade Phil Kessel for him

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09-28-2012, 12:17 PM
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The kid will round himself out nicely into a #1 defenseman.

I'd trade Phil Kessel for him

Couldn't agree more.

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09-28-2012, 12:22 PM
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09-28-2012, 12:26 PM
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Yeah, sure bud. You have no number one center but Spezza is going to make you a worst team? Even at the expense of Myers, Spezza is elite and he is not.
Buffalo is a team built around Miller and then the defense. Myers' value to Buffalo >> than having a "true 1C". We arguably haven't even had one of those since LaFontaine, and we've still been plenty competitive overall in that time span. Myers is a player you win with; last year we won about 70% of the games he was in the line-up for and only about 25% the games he wasn't. Factor in age, the fact that Spezza rarely plays a whole season, and (if Buffalo's also sending Grigs) that Grigorenko has the potential to be just as good as Spezza down the road, Buffalo easily says no. Having a young 1D + 1C >>>> having a couple years of a 1C with no real top pairing defensemen.

Buffalo arguably actually has 4 young centers with top line potential (Ennis, Hodgson, Grigorenko, Girgensons); there are no defenders in our system whose ceilings are even close to Myers.


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09-28-2012, 08:02 PM
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Age LOL, Buffalo would trade Myers and Grigo for Spezza and like it. As a Habs fan I would easily trade Subban and Gally for Spezz - that's what it would take.
I am not sure I would. That might be the value for Spezza, but I would be hesitant to do it.

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09-28-2012, 08:08 PM
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I wouldnt do spezza for myers, but thats no slight on spezza cuz value is likely there...just cant trade once in a decade potential defenseman for aging centers with only 2 years left and only McNabb as a potential top 4 guys currently in sight to replace Myers...

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09-29-2012, 09:18 PM
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Yeah, sure bud. You have no number one center but Spezza is going to make you a worst team? Even at the expense of Myers, Spezza is elite and he is not.
Stop talking about other teams like you know them inside out.

The Sabres would never in a million years trade Myers for Spezza because that is not someone we are willing to give up.

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09-30-2012, 07:40 PM
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Would offer Duchene or RoR for him. Would make a great combo at the back end with EJ.

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09-30-2012, 08:32 PM
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09-30-2012, 08:57 PM
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09-30-2012, 11:27 PM
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No he doesn't. Spezza for Myers straight up is probably reasonable value, but neither team does it.
I'm a Canucks fan and I don't think it's even close. Spezza is a legit star in the league while Myers is a potential star who is a good support player right now. Myers would need two more seasons in a row as good or better than his rookie year to be the same value as Spezza.

The difference between Spezza and Myers is Cody Hodgson or something like that.

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09-30-2012, 11:40 PM
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I can see Myers continuing to have growing pains and then eventually being dealt when the Sabres are tired of waiting on him, taking back a reasonable return but not a king's ransom. I can also see Myers finally rounding out his game in his mid to late 20s in a fresh environment like so many others before him have done.

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09-30-2012, 11:43 PM
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09-30-2012, 11:53 PM
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To Buffalo:
Teubert
1st 2013,2015
Paajarvi

To Edmonton:
Myers



OR


To Buffalo:
Leblanc
Gorges
1st 2013,2015


To Montreal:
Myers



Are these overpayments or is Myers worth this much?
Are you implying that edmontons offer = MTL offers ?
And that's a ****tard op.


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I was lost at Subban is better defensively lol...Myers poke checks plays away about 4 feet before Subban even engages defenders let alone loses pansy battles to Marchand
Someone hasnt seen Subban play here !

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I'm a big Subban fan and I think he's underrated but come on using advanced stats to say stuff like L Schenn = Myers defensively is just garbage. One period of watching those guys play puts that out of the water.

I'd say it's the other way around, Subban is better offensively right now than Myers but not defensively. Subban in the 2nd half of last yr looked really good in the offensive zone. The problem is that Myers' offense took a hit due to Ehrhoff getting more offensive minutes (and Sekera). I've noticed that during a play, he'll be the dman that hangs back a bit and joins the rush later rather than being the first one in so he for sure plays a more conservative game. This isn't a bad thing, others like John Carlson did this too last season and their defensive game improved as a result.

Also about Schenn being more physical than Myers, true so far but Myers is developing a mean streak and getting tougher, gained quite a bit of weight since his rookie season as well. Schenn will probably out-hit him because Schenn is aggressive but if you go on a 1v1 or into a corner against either one of them then I think the one you'd take your chances with is Schenn not Myers.
Ditto!

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No he doesn't. Spezza for Myers straight up is probably reasonable value, but neither team does it.
Someone hasnt seen Spezza play here!!

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