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10-01-2012, 06:31 AM
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When is Lehterä UFA?

I was wondering when Lehterä can sign a UFA-contract with a NHL-team? He was drafted by Blues in 2008 and haven`t played a single NHL game yet. He is probably paid 2mill+ in KHL and has good stats:

KHL: 88 31 48 79 0.90 61 31
SM-liiga: 197 47 123 170 0.86 138 22

Thats a combined +53 and 0.88ppg on non-elite teams in respective leagues. It`s pretty obvious the guy wont come and play on a 2-way contract earning 60k in AHL at this point. He should be good for a 1-way contract as UFA and a team in need of a top-6 center could throw out a contract for him! He is leading the KHL in points atm with 100% more points that the second best player on team Sibir.

I tried to dig up information on when he can be offered a contract but didnt find any information. So, if someone can help me thx in advance...

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10-01-2012, 07:06 AM
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The Blues will keep his rights until he is UFA eligible, which will be when he is 27 under the current CBA rules. That could rise though.

Skating is the biggest issue he has, and that will be far more exposed in the NHL but I still think he could do a job here. The Blues still need a centre, whether that will be the case next summer, who knows. But if he hadn't got injured last season, I think he might have signed over the summer.

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The Blues will keep his rights until he is UFA eligible, which will be when he is 27 under the current CBA rules. That could rise though.

Skating is the biggest issue he has, and that will be far more exposed in the NHL but I still think he could do a job here. The Blues still need a centre, whether that will be the case next summer, who knows. But if he hadn't got injured last season, I think he might have signed over the summer.
Ok, so that`ll be in 2014 then? Is there any other option for him than signing a entry-lvl contract with Blues before that? I mean what kind of bonuses etc. can be put in a contract, cause I doubt he signs a normal 2-way? Wasnt he actually offered a contract in the offseason, but declined?

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This line would be fun to watch in the NHL: Enlund, Lehterä, Tarasenko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n2pqPqOtV4

I don`t think it would be hard to get Enlund`s rights either! Thoose guys got chemistry. Enlund`s rights are owned by Winnipeg atm? 7th rnd draftpick to Winnipeg - sign Enlund, Lehterä to entry-lvl:s next year and run a 3rd line of Enlund-Lehterä-Tarasenko(Pretty sure they would sign a 1yr deal for cheap if it is 1-way and playing with Tarasenko). Guys have played together before and were the best line in KHL when did.


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Ok, so that`ll be in 2014 then? Is there any other option for him than signing a entry-lvl contract with Blues before that? I mean what kind of bonuses etc. can be put in a contract, cause I doubt he signs a normal 2-way? Wasnt he actually offered a contract in the offseason, but declined?
I don't believe he was offered a contract in the offseason, but we did speak with him several times during last season.

As for what we can offer him, that all comes down to what the new CBA says. Under the just expired CBA we would not have been allowed to offer bonuses, as he had completed his ELC. So a 2-way contract would probably have been the only thing on offer. So if he does want to play in the NHL, then he would need to make a short-term sacrifice to prove himself.

If he can keeps up his current level for the rest of the season, then I can't see him not being in the NHL for 2013/14. Another primary assist today as well.

As for Enlund, good player but we are too stacked on wing to even think about it. Perron, McDonald, Steen, Tarasenko, Perron, Oshie, Schwartz, D'Agostini and next year Rattie could put himself in the mix.

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This line would be fun to watch in the NHL: Enlund, Lehterä, Tarasenko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n2pqPqOtV4

I don`t think it would be hard to get Enlund`s rights either! Thoose guys got chemistry. Enlund`s rights are owned by Winnipeg atm? 7th rnd draftpick to Winnipeg - sign Enlund, Lehterä to entry-lvl:s next year and run a 3rd line of Enlund-Lehterä-Tarasenko(Pretty sure they would sign a 1yr deal for cheap if it is 1-way and playing with Tarasenko). Guys have played together before and were the best line in KHL when did.
I dont think Enlund is an NHL caliber player.

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10-01-2012, 01:08 PM
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I dont think Enlund is an NHL caliber player.
It`s debatable I think? Lehterä and Enlund were a "dynamic duo" in SM-liiga. Tarasenko-Lehterä-Enlund the best line in KHL(?) when they played! Enlund and Lehterä could be a cheap option to try out with Tarasenko on 3rd line? If they show the same chemistry as in KHL they would do wonders! This is a low risk - high reward kinda move...

I admit though that the two others are on a different lvl than Enlund! Enlund just could bite on an entry-lvl contract and maybe work out well with the others....?

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Lehterä who?

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Lehterä who?


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Lehtera Jori
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Thoresen Patrick
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Radulov Alexander
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This guy?

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Team stats btw

Lehtera Jori
12 SIB 12 5 11 16 8 13 4 1 0 0 2 2 29 17.2 2.4 308 178 57.8 20:50 28.6
Enlund Jonas
26 SIB 12 2 8 10 7 4 2 0 0 0 0 1 37 5.4 3.1 22 11 50.0 20:23 28.2
Krivonozhkin Maxim
50 SIB 12 3 4 7 3 4 2 1 0 0 0 0 34 8.8 2.8 16 5 31.3 17:15 26.1
Drugov Viktor
28 SIB 12 0 4 4 -1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 33 0.0 2.8 11 6 54.5 18:40 25.4
Sannikov Stepan
39 SIB 9 1 1 2 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 12 8.3 1.3 0 0 - 10:28 18.0
Stepanov Andrei
61 SIB 11 1 1 2 0 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 17 5.9 1.5 2 2 100.0 12:31 18.8
Solodukhin Vyacheslav
32 SIB 12 1 1 2 0 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 17 5.9 1.4 5 2 40.0 12:20 19.6
Voroshilo Artyom
88 SIB 8 0 2 2 1 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0.0 0.5 45 23 51.1 9:26 16.1
Fisenko Mikhail
10 SIB 9 0 2 2 -1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 0.0 1.6 101 42 41.6 11:23 18.3
Lebedev Kirill
60 SIB 4 1 0 1 -1 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 50.0 0.5 0 0 - 3:59 6.8
Osipov Nikita
70 SIB 11 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 10 10.0 0.9 123 40 32.5 11:53 18.7
Nikitenko Andrei
55 SIB 12 0 1 1 -3 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 0.0 1.2 174 102 58.6 14:30 23.0
Shumakov Sergei
7 SIB 4 0 0 0 1 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0.0 1.3 0 0 - 6:21 11.3
Grachyov Maxim
9 SIB 7 0 0 0 -1 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0.0 0.4 0 0 - 7:07 11.3
Kopeikin Alexei
25 SIB 12 0 0 0 -1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 29 0.0 2.4 0 0 - 16:44 24.5
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GP - Games played, G - Goals, A - Assists, PTS - Points, +/- - Plus/minus, PIM - Penalty in minutes, ESG - Even Strength Goals, PPG - Power play goals, SHG - Shorthanded goals, OTG - Overtime goals, GWG - Game winning goals, SDS - Shootouts deciding shots, SOG - Shots on goal, %SOG - Shots on goal percentage, SOG/G - Average shots/Game, FO - Faceoffs, FOW - Faceoffs won, %FO - Faceoffs won percentage, TOI/G - Average time on ice/Game, SFT/G - Average shifts/Game

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Lehterä has 16p, Enlund 10, next guy 7 and then it decreases even more... Theese boys are carrying this team in KHL!

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10-01-2012, 05:12 PM
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That was a joke jonlin.

Lehterä has never even come to a training camp, so he can take a hike. He has shown no interest whatsoever (a short stint in the AHL is hardly "interest") in playing for the Blues.

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That was a joke jonlin.

Lehterä has never even come to a training camp, so he can take a hike. He has shown no interest whatsoever (a short stint in the AHL is hardly "interest") in playing for the Blues.
Where is " was never given any time in NHL"? He and Tarasenko showed great chemistry. Would be fun to see what they could achive in the NHL together....

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10-01-2012, 05:51 PM
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It was my understanding that the Blues hold Lehtera's rights indefinitely but that after this coming season he would be free to skip the ELC. I don't remember where I read that so I can't offer up any proof but I'm pretty sure that I read it this off-season.

I also recall reading that Armstrong had been in contact with Lehtera and they concluded that this wasn't the best season for him to come over, which sort of implied that there would be a better opportunity in the future. I think that we MIGHT see Lehtera give the NHL a try in the 2013-2014 season when the Blues are allowed to make a non-ELC contract offer that is competitive with what he would make in the KHL, depending on whatever roster moves are made this season.

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Enlund can put up points in The KHL, SEL or Finnish leagues, where there is lots of extra room. But, I don't know if his offence might disappear in the tighter NHL. Could he stand up to the physical game there? There must be a reason why no NHL team drafted him through 6 rounds and a portion of the 7th. He's better off staying in Europe, where he can earn a high -scorer's paycheck.

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Enlund can put up points in The KHL, SEL or Finnish leagues, where there is lots of extra room. But, I don't know if his offence might disappear in the tighter NHL. Could he stand up to the physical game there? There must be a reason why no NHL team drafted him through 6 rounds and a portion of the 7th. He's better off staying in Europe, where he can earn a high -scorer's paycheck.
He was drafted in the 6th rnd by Atlanta in 2006. I see no harm in trying him out with guys he is comfortable playing with.

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I think the main problem with talented euros in the NHL is lack of trust and support. Let's take Turis for example. The guy is canadian and 3rd overall. What did he do in Phoenix? Yeah, nothing. But teams kept believing in him, and now it looks like he found his place in Ottawa.

And take Shirokov - guy actually didn't get many chances to prove himself in Vancouver. Or Zuccarello. Guy had not a bad statistics ater his first 2 seasons, but Rangers didn't offer him anything, and now he's in the KHL.

Blues do need one more center bad, so I think Lehtera could be helpful. Especially considering his chemistry with Tarasenko.

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Where is " was never given any time in NHL"? He and Tarasenko showed great chemistry. Would be fun to see what they could achive in the NHL together....
Where is, He didn't do jack to earn anything with the Blues except an invitation to training camp, which he turned down?

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Where is, He didn't do jack to earn anything with the Blues except an invitation to training camp, which he turned down?
Which is why letting him mature a bit and having him work on his game in the second best league before he comes over (since the Blues have his rights still) is likely the best approach, n'est ce pas?

Or, as you prefer, we could all simply state we do not care about Lehtera and hope he stays in the KHL where second rate players play.


Whichever, you know.

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Where is, He didn't do jack to earn anything with the Blues except an invitation to training camp, which he turned down?
Tell me - who is stupid enough to agree to a 2-way contract when there is no contract between NHLPA and the NHL? In your opinion he should have turn down multi-million deal from KHL to play in the AHL? I understand him perfectly why he didnt come over this summer.

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Tell me - who is stupid enough to agree to a 2-way contract when there is no contract between NHLPA and the NHL?
Tarasenko?

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Tarasenko?
2-way contract? lol... 850k bonus and an annual salary of 900k. He is NOT assigned to AHL - He plays in the KHL atm. He can be 100% sure he gets time in the NHL to prove himself. Bad example...

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It was my understanding that the Blues hold Lehtera's rights indefinitely but that after this coming season he would be free to skip the ELC. I don't remember where I read that so I can't offer up any proof but I'm pretty sure that I read it this off-season.

I also recall reading that Armstrong had been in contact with Lehtera and they concluded that this wasn't the best season for him to come over, which sort of implied that there would be a better opportunity in the future. I think that we MIGHT see Lehtera give the NHL a try in the 2013-2014 season when the Blues are allowed to make a non-ELC contract offer that is competitive with what he would make in the KHL, depending on whatever roster moves are made this season.
That isnt true, the Blues signed him to an ELC a few years back. We wouldnt have held his rights indefinitely, as it only applies to Russians. Finns must be signed after two seasons, I think. We still hold his rights because we qualified him.

http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=530637

But I do believe that Armstrong said that he was in contact with Lehtera this offseason. It really would have made no sense for him to come over this season. I wouldnt close the book just yet, but he is a well payed player in Russia (a country with much lower top tax rate and lower cost of living) and it really makes little sense for him to play in the AHL. Id like to see him come to camp next year and if he doesnt make the team, we let him go back to the KHL.

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That isnt true, the Blues signed him to an ELC a few years back. We wouldnt have held his rights indefinitely, as it only applies to Russians. Finns must be signed after two seasons, I think. We still hold his rights because we qualified him.

http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=530637

But I do believe that Armstrong said that he was in contact with Lehtera this offseason. It really would have made no sense for him to come over this season. I wouldnt close the book just yet, but he is a well payed player in Russia (a country with much lower top tax rate and lower cost of living) and it really makes little sense for him to play in the AHL. Id like to see him come to camp next year and if he doesnt make the team, we let him go back to the KHL.

This is exactly the scenario I`d like to see!

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That isnt true, the Blues signed him to an ELC a few years back. We wouldnt have held his rights indefinitely, as it only applies to Russians. Finns must be signed after two seasons, I think. We still hold his rights because we qualified him.

http://blues.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=530637

But I do believe that Armstrong said that he was in contact with Lehtera this offseason. It really would have made no sense for him to come over this season. I wouldnt close the book just yet, but he is a well payed player in Russia (a country with much lower top tax rate and lower cost of living) and it really makes little sense for him to play in the AHL. Id like to see him come to camp next year and if he doesnt make the team, we let him go back to the KHL.
Thats for adding some validity to my claims! You're absolutely right on the Russian/Finn thing, my mistake.

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Tell me - who is stupid enough to agree to a 2-way contract when there is no contract between NHLPA and the NHL? In your opinion he should have turn down multi-million deal from KHL to play in the AHL? I understand him perfectly why he didnt come over this summer.
What a stupid question?! TWO stupid questions.

I do not operate within false paradigms.

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