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10-02-2012, 02:58 AM
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Phaneuf to Chicago

To Chicago
Phaneuf
2nd

To Toronto
1st
McNeil
Hjarlmasson

Keith-Phaneuf
Seabrook-Leddy/Rosi/Oduya
Rosi/Leddy/Oduya

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10-02-2012, 03:00 AM
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To Chicago
Phaneuf
2nd

To Toronto
1st
McNeil
Hjarlmasson

Keith-Phaneuf
Seabrook-Leddy/Rosi/Oduya
Rosi/Leddy/Oduya
I don't normally say this, but I think Toronto gets the raw end of this deal.

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10-02-2012, 03:19 AM
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Lol no.

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10-02-2012, 03:40 AM
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Hell no from Leafs.

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10-02-2012, 04:17 AM
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Terrible deal for the Leafs. The 1st will be low and Hammer and McNeil are not big enough incentives to do such a deal.

I think you need to step back and take a look at the proposals you make as they are very one sided in our favor. Who would the Leafs even replace Phaneuf with? Hammer at his best is a good #4.

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10-02-2012, 04:29 AM
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[QUOTE=Intense Rage;54712533]Terrible deal for the Leafs. The 1st will be low and Hammer and McNeil are not big enough incentives to do such a deal.

I think you need to step back and take a look at the proposals you make as they are very one sided in our favor. Who would the Leafs even replace Phaneuf with? Hammer at his best is a good

Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Ian White and Jamal Mayers

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10-02-2012, 04:29 AM
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Gunnarsson and Hjarlmasson have extremely similar games so I don't know why Toronto would have any interest in him. McNeil is an average prospect and a 1st just doesn't make up the difference. This deal would make a big hole in the Leafs defense and wouldn't address a single need for them. Leafs easily say no here.

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10-02-2012, 04:33 AM
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Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Ian White and Jamal Mayers

.......
Marco Sturm, Wayne Primeau, Brad Stuart

.......

I don't think Thornton would be traded for that garbage again. One teams gain is certainly not the accepted value of a player.

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10-02-2012, 06:08 AM
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Stajan, Niklas Hagman, Ian White and Jamal Mayers

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THAT'S your argument? really?

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Completely ignoring the value of the trade, Phaneuf to Chicago is a non starter. Blackhawks gave away Campbell because they did not want a overpaid 7 million Dman on second pairing. I doubt Bowman will give some serious assets for Phaneuf at 6.5 million on second pairing. From a Toronto POV, I doubt that they want to trade their captain who also happens to be their no 1 Dman unless its to fill their 1C hole.

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10-02-2012, 07:29 AM
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Gunnarsson and Hjarlmasson have extremely similar games so I don't know why Toronto would have any interest in him. McNeil is an average prospect and a 1st just doesn't make up the difference. This deal would make a big hole in the Leafs defense and wouldn't address a single need for them. Leafs easily say no here.
Well... in all honesty... Toronto's short on the blueline when it comes to stay at home guys, if there's one player we could duplicate, it would be Carl Gunnarsson. In fact, Hjalmarsson may be even more desirable because he's slightly more of a stay at home guy while Gunnarsson has a bit better puckmoving ability... splitting hairs. He's probably the perfect fit for our 2nd pair with one of Gardiner/Liles.

That being said, there's zero chance of the Leafs considering this. Their position of weakness is at the top of the lineup. They've got depth and youth at just about every position, so there's absolutely no reason to take an immediate downgrade. Realistically, the only pieces that Phaneuf would be available for are a centre that's significantly better than him (our depth on the blueline isn't as good as depth at centre), a significantly better goaltender, or marginally better defenceman... not in terms of value / cap hit / contract, in terms of actual contribution on the ice. I think we can all agree that Hjalmarsson isn't that.

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10-02-2012, 08:20 AM
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Id only consider it for Sharp (as well as the obvious untouchables) on the condition that he can move back to C. Obviously thatll be a no-go from chicago's POV considering the need for a 2nd line C and the strength at D. I however would love to aquire Hjarlmasson by other means, what would it take to get him?


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10-02-2012, 08:25 AM
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Definitely one of the better deals that I have seen proposed for Phaneuf in a long-time but still no, he is too valuable to our organization and would badly hurt losing him.

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10-02-2012, 09:32 AM
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Since Schen has left I can't see Leafs fans being interested in this deal. Makes their top 4 way too soft IMO.

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Not a chance. It would take a LOT more than that to see Dion leave the blue and white.

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10-02-2012, 10:09 AM
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No thanks, not interested at all in taking on his contract, or him in general.

Also, Phaneuf would not over take Seabrook on the #1 pairing, so we would be paying a 2nd pairing guy 6.5mil plus trading away good pieces. A non-starter.

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10-02-2012, 11:00 AM
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To Chicago
Phaneuf
2nd

To Toronto
1st
McNeil
Hjarlmasson

Keith-Phaneuf
Seabrook-Leddy/Rosi/Oduya
Rosi/Leddy/Oduya
How does this possibly improve Toronto as a team?

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10-02-2012, 11:02 AM
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No thanks, what about switch it to Grabo, keep the 2nd?

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Phaneuf for Kane

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Id do phaneuf for sharp

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Phaneuf for Kane
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Id do phaneuf for sharp
The Hawks would not do either. You would probably get better value if you traded Phaneuf elsewhere as we have less need for him with our top pairing the way it is.

On the OP Not exactly the best value going to Toronto, but it still doesn't make it good for the Hawks.


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10-02-2012, 01:58 PM
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Why would Toronto make that deal? Not that Chicago wants Phaneuf, but really..

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Why does Chi even need Phaneuf? Their top pairing is just fine.

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10-02-2012, 02:05 PM
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OP I keep thinking we've seen the worst of your proposals... and I continue to be wrong.

Chicago doesn't want Phaneuf

While McNeil and Hammer are highly regarded in CHI they're not even close to worth Phaneuf

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10-02-2012, 02:34 PM
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Of course TO fans think Phan is a great dman, every game I watch he gets beat wide and the other team scores. EDM has a bad dmen core but I would not take Phan, no thank you especially with that contract.

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