You sure about that? Rays and Marlins have both been noted for their attendance issues. Marlins just got a new park so I think the Rays could wind up being relocated at some point. People talk about how the park is in a bad location and a bad neighborhood and I could buy that as a reason not to go for mediocre/decent teams but they've put out an extremely good product over the last couple of years and can barely draw.
NFL has three teams and at some point Jacksonville will relocate as they don't draw at all. Even Tampa Bay and Miami haven't been selling out. Tampa had their opener blacked out at home even with the new NFL blackout rule that's supposed to help minimized the amount of blackouts.
not sure if I quoted your post, but it's my opinion that Florida cannot support two hockey teams. If it is a poor market for multiple teams in other sports, I do not know. You are essentially supporting the point I wanted to make. It just highlights the lunacy of two hockey teams when the state can barely support two teams in a warm weather sport.
New Jersey Sen. Frank Lautenberg issued a statement about the lockout, I figure more attention on this is a good thing so I wrote Senators Schumer and Gillibrand asking them to issue similar statements.
Florida is a big market, but for hockey it can support one team at best. Other sports, two or more surely.
Saying Florida is a big market is like saying New York State is a big market. Tampa is as much the same market as Dade-Broward as Syracuse is the same market as NYC. And in fact even less so, given that both Florida markets sustain large enough populations in general.
When representatives from the NHL and NHLPA reconvene in Manhattan on this 16th day of the owners’ lockout, the conversation will pick up where it left off on Saturday, when the parties attempted to clarify the definition of Hockey Related Revenue, a subject obviously and perhaps ominously not yet settled.
Several individuals who have been briefed on the matter told The Post the league had sought to introduce clarifications favorable to the owners’ collective bottom line.
One source said the NHL “was not adamant about it.” But a player who participated on yesterday’s NHLPA conference call — during which the athletes received an overall update that included a review of the weekend talks — was not happy about it.
“Over the weekend, they just wanted to put more peanuts in their pockets,” the player told The Post.
The NHL blames the PA for not moving the process along but the NHL keeps trying to change the ingredients making up the pie. That's frustrating. First the NHL talked about the expense of generating revenue and now its trying to make other changes.
"But while the owners are hoping the union collapses, many of these same players (and their agents) believe most teams do not want a work stoppage. After talking to several people who attended the NHL's September board of governors meeting, my sense is that while most want to play eventually, Bettman has more than enough support right now.
There are some owners who are dead set against him (hint: one of them has a name that rhymes with James Dolan), but the majority are willing to see where this goes over the next couple of months."
Bill Daly: "No progress to report. No progress was made."
Bill Daly: NHL and PA will stay in touch, but no further meetings planned.
Another waste of time. Why even bother meeting. The NHL is only meeting with the hope the NHLPA will cave and give a proposal they like. It almost feels like they sit down and stare at each other for 2 hours.