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10-02-2012, 02:40 PM
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Tim Connolly


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Nothing fancy, just a good old fashioned hockey deal.

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I'd be OK with this, actually.

I doubt TO would do it though.

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Actually, good proposal value wise...

Does Toronto need Montador though?

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10-02-2012, 03:13 PM
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With Franson gone, there should be a spot open for a bottom pairing/7th D-man.

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10-02-2012, 03:20 PM
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Lol, no.

We don't need defencemen. And while we don't really need Connolly, he provides more than Montador, and his contract expires this year (which is the big difference).

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10-02-2012, 03:31 PM
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I say no deal for this reason. At the end of the 2012-2013 season (assuming it happens) Connolly is going to be a UFA and not sure the contract status of Montador. So I don't want the Leafs taking on more contracts with term left on them assuming Montador has more then 1 year left on his deal. Finally if Cody Franson does stay in Sweden I rather see someone like Holzer take his spot and not trade for another Defenseman.

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10-02-2012, 03:35 PM
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Montador is someone you could give playing time to and trade later on in a deadline deal for a good asset like a 2nd or B-prospect.

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10-02-2012, 03:44 PM
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Montador is someone you could give playing time to and trade later on in a deadline deal for a good asset like a 2nd or B-prospect.
We don't need to give playing time to Montador. Connolly is a player we could trade for a 2nd or a B-prospect. Montador is not.

2.75 million bottom-pairing/depth defenceman signed for 3 years with a modified NTC will not get you much, if anything.

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10-02-2012, 04:03 PM
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How about you list some of your B-prospects, and we go from there for Connolly?

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10-02-2012, 04:05 PM
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How about you list some of your B-prospects, and we go from there for Connolly?
I think that is overpayment. I don't see Connolly bringing back, other than another vet like Montador, anything more than a 3rd or 4th.

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I think that is overpayment. I don't see Connolly bringing back, other than another vet like Montador, anything more than a 3rd or 4th.
So Montador, a 6th/7th with 2.25M brings in a 2nd/B-prospect, yet Connolly, an injury prone but okay when healthy 2nd line center with 4.75M, doesn't? Okay then..

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So Montador, a 6th/7th with 2.25M brings in a 2nd/B-prospect, yet Connolly, an injury prone but okay when healthy 2nd line center with 4.75M, doesn't? Okay then..
You and I both know cheap veteran D-men always bring a 2nd at the deadline and there is always a bigger demand than supply at that point in the year. I mean, look at Oduya, brought back a 2nd and 3rd in a deep draft. I'm not saying Connolly is worthless, just that I don't think contenders will need a 2C and look at Connolly as the solution and give up a 2nd for him. Connolly to the Leafs, you get something for him and it is a win IMO. Playing out his contract and letting him walk seems dumb to me unless you are going to make the playoffs.

If not Montador, I would do something like Paradis or Lalonde.

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10-02-2012, 04:30 PM
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You and I both know cheap veteran D-men always bring a 2nd at the deadline and there is always a bigger demand than supply at that point in the year. I mean, look at Oduya, brought back a 2nd and 3rd in a deep draft. I'm not saying Connolly is worthless, just that I don't think contenders will need a 2C and look at Connolly as the solution and give up a 2nd for him. Connolly to the Leafs, you get something for him and it is a win IMO. Playing out his contract and letting him walk seems dumb to me unless you are going to make the playoffs.

If not Montador, I would do something like Paradis or Lalonde.
I'd rather take Montador, Paradis doesn't look like he'll ever become a regular NHL player (based off what I've seen)

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You and I both know cheap veteran D-men always bring a 2nd at the deadline and there is always a bigger demand than supply at that point in the year. I mean, look at Oduya, brought back a 2nd and 3rd in a deep draft. I'm not saying Connolly is worthless, just that I don't think contenders will need a 2C and look at Connolly as the solution and give up a 2nd for him. Connolly to the Leafs, you get something for him and it is a win IMO. Playing out his contract and letting him walk seems dumb to me unless you are going to make the playoffs.

If not Montador, I would do something like Paradis or Lalonde.
Montador is not CHEAP.

Oduya was a crap #4, Montador is a crap #6. There is a difference. It wasn't a deep draft, and if Montador is=2nd/B-prospect, and you're trying to trade for Connolly, then why is his a 3rd or 4th? I guess Chicago isn't a contender, if you are trying to get him. We would rather get nothing for Connolly than get Montador for Connolly.


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10-02-2012, 04:34 PM
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I'd rather take Montador, Paradis doesn't look like he'll ever become a regular NHL player (based off what I've seen)
I'd rather opening up a contract space, then taking Montador/Paradis or a inconsistent -2 in the AHL.

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10-02-2012, 06:02 PM
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Montador is not CHEAP.

Oduya was a crap #4, Montador is a crap #6. There is a difference. It wasn't a deep draft, and if Montador is=2nd/B-prospect, and you're trying to trade for Connolly, then why is his a 3rd or 4th? I guess Chicago isn't a contender, if you are trying to get him. We would rather get nothing for Connolly than get Montador for Connolly.
Montador is by no means a crap player, he just hasn't been healthy for a while.

As far as the original proposal, Montador's value is low, he needs to return and stay healthy for him to become worth trading for. I don't expect anyone to trade a worthwhile asset for him but I don't think the difference between his value and Connolly's is all that large. Connolly is paid 4.75 to be a #3 center and I believe he did not produce much on the 3rd line either.

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10-02-2012, 08:40 PM
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10-02-2012, 08:41 PM
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The big problem here is Connolly has 1 year left, and Montador has 3 years left.

And that's ignoring the many other reasons this is terrible, main one being that Toronto does not need defencemen.

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Burke is a Montador fan (he picked him up when he was GM in Anaheim), so I could see this happening. He likes his former picks and players.

One mitigating factor though is the contracts. Burke is saving all of that cap space to "offer" Getzlaf and Perry contracts, and then once they don't sign in Toronto, he'll say "we tried our best".

Nice value though on both sides, OP.

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10-02-2012, 08:55 PM
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Tim Connolly


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Not a chance.

Tim Connolly, does hold value to the Leafs. As long as Tyler Bozak is the #1 C, they'll need a guy who can step in for him, and with the addition of JvR, Connolly should actually probably make a better #1c than Bozak between JvR and Kessel.

To get Connolly, the Hawks would have to be talking Hjalmarsson.

If Montador had 1 year left, maybe the Leafs make a Lombardi/Montador swap... but with that many years, there's just no way.

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We need a #2 center, not a heartless, bald waste of space that happens to play center.

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We need a #2 center, not a heartless, bald waste of space that happens to play center.
Say what you want but Tim Connolly is a #2 center. (When Healthy.)

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Say what you want but Tim Connolly is a #2 center. (When Healthy.)
When he's "on," he can be effective. He's hardly ever turned on.

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The big problem here is Connolly has 1 year left, and Montador has 3 years left.
^THIS^

If Montador had a year left like Connolly then I'd make the deal.
But not with 3 more years @ $2.75M with a MNTC.

Would rather just let Connolly walk at the end of the (maybe) season.

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