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08-10-2012, 01:53 PM
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I'm making a bold prediction and I'll say that the Lakers and Heat will meet in the finals.
At least he's not on the nets, but 76ers gor better with that deal too

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08-10-2012, 01:55 PM
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The NBA, as much as I love the actual sport, is a sickening joke.

There is not, and doesn't appear to be anytime soon, a single shred of parity in the league. It's always the same 3-4 teams that are good and two of those 3-4 teams have won about 80% of the championships.

It's getting really old and I'm frankly starting to get sick of it.

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08-10-2012, 02:31 PM
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I honestly though the previously speculated Pau and Bynum for Dwight (and Al Harrington) wouldn't make the Lakers that much better.

BUT THEY GOT TO KEEP PAU.

Ridiculous.

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Brooklyn arena looks nice.

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09-14-2012, 04:21 PM
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Anyone like the new Knick uniforms?

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Don't think there that great, can't wait to see the nets ones though

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10-03-2012, 04:24 PM
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Knicks sign Rasheed Wallace.

Too bad this isn't like, 7 years ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...71a_story.html

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Wallace said he decided in late August after a few conversations with Woodson to attempt the comeback. He cited his respect for the laid-back Woodson, an assistant under Brown whom Wallace credited with calming down the player who once racked up 40 technical fouls in a season.

The 38-year-old Wallace last played for the Boston Celtics in the 2009-10 season. Terms of his contract were not announced, but the Knicks could offer only the veteran’s minimum of about $1.7 million.
So how is this team stacking up these days? I think I'm a little behind on my Knicks knowledge...

Kidd, Shump (if healthy), Felton, JR Smith, 'Melo, STAT, Chandler, Camby, Wallace, Novak, Kurt Thomas, __________

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10-03-2012, 04:59 PM
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New jersey's look sweet.

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10-03-2012, 05:55 PM
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I believe the correct title for this thread is "There's an old ass mother****ing washed up team in town"

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This team is reminiscent of the 98-2004 NY Rangers.

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10-03-2012, 06:54 PM
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Honestly, I think the Knicks can have a solid season, maybe even be a 4-6 seed in the playoffs this year and go on a decent run, sure they're old, but that veteran presence will only help imo, they've been there and done that, etc. Felton's back and I'm sure most remember the chemistry he had with STAT, plus Melo and Chandler, they have fantastic depth on the bench now, so I'm looking forward very much to this year, especially with the lockout.

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10-03-2012, 07:20 PM
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Not into NBA. Like Basketball tho...which team should I follow...lol

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10-03-2012, 08:00 PM
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Not into NBA. Like Basketball tho...which team should I follow...lol
Knicks.

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10-03-2012, 08:17 PM
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Not into NBA. Like Basketball tho...which team should I follow...lol
Not Knicks. In fact, just stay out of the nba. Horribly broken corrupt league. You have teams buying championships. Teams blowing themselves apart. Teams trying to buy championships. And teams that want to build a winner, which is impossible.

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10-03-2012, 08:22 PM
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Might be the biased Knicks fan in me, but I think they're going to be a lot better than a lot of people think they'll be right now.

1- They're deep. They can easily have a 13 player rotation. But they likely won't. To preserve the effectiveness of the older players I see Woodson rotating them and giving them plenty of rest after a several game stretches.

2- Their chemistry. Many people really underestimate the value of having a team that plays for each other. It makes average team's great. Knicks are a lot more talented than average. They play average because they've always played me first, especially under D'Antoni. Me-first offense, that has little ball movement. Me-first defense which is lazy and not committed to a team concept. From what was said yesterday, it seems that the players believe in this system, which instead of being derived on offensive and personal success is derived from team play that focuses and starts on the defensive side.

3- They're gritty. Name me the last time the Knicks fielded a focuses group of athletes on the court, with an us against the world mentality? I can remember when the Knicks put a bunch of thugs on the court who were lazy and overpaid and came in to camp out of shape very clearly, but the last time I remember a team with this much desire to really win and do it with a chip on their shoulder is the late '90s. Team's like this (besides the '99 Knicks in a lockout shortened season) rarely are inconsistent and fickle to pressure. The '99 Knicks team made the finals yes, but they were incredibly inconsistent for a large portion of the regular season.

4- The veterans. First thing to discuss here is that for a veteran, an NBA title is a lot more valuable than for a star in his prime. A star in his prime, he sees the pay day, the fame, the glory, a title isn't usually the first priority on the list. Veterans? Their days are numbered, and they know it. The end is in sight, and at this point, for the most part, their most important motivating factor is to win games and end off their career with a bang. And what's great? We have more of them than most other teams, and while some may call that old age that will eventually fail, I view that as a solid support structure that will keep our stars and younger players in check if they start to lose themselves. And what's better? Look at the quality of the veterans that we have. These aren't washed up has-beens. Camby, Kidd, Wallace, and Thomas all have title experience. Wallace came out of retirement JUST to have a title shot, in fact, his roster spot isn't even guaranteed, he agreed to a tryout. They all have something to prove.

5- Which leads me to the final and most important part. The core. These guys all have chips on their shoulders too, they all have something to prove to themselves and to their doubters, and they've all acknowledged this chip this offseason. Felton has to prove he's still an effective player, that he's not an out of shape failed project - he's come to camp about 20 pounds lighter. Shumpert has to prove he's not a boy amongst men, he's the future of this team. Ronnie Brewer might be the most under rated signing (At the price we got him) in the entire league. JR Smith is still an extremely effective player! Melo and Amare have both stated how important working together as a team is now. Both revealed that they had personal issues in years past and that both have mutually agreed to buy into a team concept. And finally, at the helm, Tyson Chandler, who brings passion and a ferocity to the center position that most other team's can't, is reigning defensive player of the year.

The Knicks have the pieces in place. They have the proper mix of players and passion on the team. They have the right mentality heading into the season too. I'm thinking they'll surprise a lot of people and finish top 3 in the conference.

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10-03-2012, 08:24 PM
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If they play hard nosed defense I'll be happy.

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10-03-2012, 08:28 PM
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If they play hard nosed defense I'll be happy.
I'm hoping that too.

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10-03-2012, 08:44 PM
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By the the players they already had and added, they're looking like a defensive team.
Last year they were top 5. They should be about the same again.

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10-03-2012, 09:47 PM
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With Shump, Brewer and Tyson I expect the defense to be great.

I love our bench- even though it's old, to have guys like Camby and Brewer coming off of it when everyone's healthy is depth.

I know the Knicks are ****ed in the long term, and I know we're not going to win a ring since we decided to go for it right when we might have to go through two of the most dominant teams ever constructed in the league's history also are kicking now, but I like the way we look for this year.

Carmelo and Amar'e need to step up. If Amar'e can bring 20 and 10 this season that'll be huge.

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10-03-2012, 10:05 PM
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Chandler----Camby
Stoudemire---Wallace
Anthony-----Novak
Brewer----Smith/Shumpert
Felton------Kidd

Good team.

Bench is old but the starters aren't.

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10-03-2012, 10:31 PM
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Chandler----Camby
Stoudemire---Wallace
Anthony-----Novak
Brewer----Smith/Shumpert
Felton------Kidd

Good team.

Bench is old but the starters aren't.
Chandler-Camby-Stoudemire
Stoudemire-Thomas-Wallace-Anthony
Anthony-Brewer-Novak
Brewer-Shumpert-Smith
Felton-Kidd-Prigirioni

13 man rotation with a lot of different combinations possible.

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10-04-2012, 08:23 AM
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East:

1.Heat
2.Celtics
3.Knicks
4.Pacers
5.76's
6.Nets
7.Hawks
8.Bulls

West:

1.Thunder
2.Lakers
3.Clippers
4.Spurs
5.Mavs
6.Gizz
7.Nuggets
8.Jazz

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10-25-2012, 10:40 AM
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I like these flopping rules. But let's be honest here, is ANY ref going to call a flop on LeBron or Bosh? No way. They're going to get the Crosby treatment where they can dive to their hearts desires. Protect the superstars.



Like he took a shotgun blast from 5 feet away.



This should count as 3 violations.

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Rasheed Wallace came into the pool hall I work at tonight. Ordered a Jack and Cranberry of all things. He was with a girl, not his wife, who for some reason paid.

Son of a ***** is TALL

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Pretty surprised they're going to play tonight.

What's the starting lineup with STAT out? Camby!?!?

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